OFFICIAL LA Rams 2025 Cut Thread

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Elmgrovegnome

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I think that is the plan.
But, things often play out differently.
The number one guy I will be watching early this season is Avila. He was not good last year particularly in pass pro.
He was bailed out a lot (as the Rams OL often is as a whole) by Stafford quick release.
He is healthy now so hopefully he can get back on track.

I think it’s possible that Avila’s struggles coincided with having a rookie Center alongside him, that didn’t do great with the blocking scheme calls. The Rams screen game was good in 2023 and didn’t work as well in 2024. The common denominator was Shelton being gone.
 

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This makes no sense. He was better at pass blocking than run blocking yet he had an overall grade lower than his run blocking grade. I wonder why many don't trust PFF grades or think they're horse shit.
Hey AI said so lol.....my guess is maybe there's other metrics used to calculate the grade that aren't included as this is a summary. Regardless, he sucked ass at running blocking. Also I'd hope Limmer would improve on pass blocking after completely fucking up the passing assignment at the worst possible time during the playoffs against Philly.
 
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This makes no sense. He was better at pass blocking than run blocking yet he had an overall grade lower than his run blocking grade. I wonder why many don't trust PFF grades or think they're horse shit.
The problem with PFF grading, is that if one questions it ... and, personally, I REALLY do ... you can't turn around and use it to support your opinion when their grade happens to agree with your opinion.

Years ago, when PFF (started in the U.K.) was becoming very popular (Cris Collinsworth ... huge supporter and one-time majority investor), I did a deep-dive in how their grading system worked.

It would take me multiple pages to explain in detail (the Devil is in the details) some of the foundation / core principles for PFF's grading system ... and, to be fair, it may well have changed and/or evolved. However, at that time, without any pre-conceived opinions, I came-away very Unimpressed with PFF.

There were a number of reasons but a primary factor was that their analysts (mostly, NOT former coaches, players or scouts) started their analysis with core Assumptions about player responsibilities, performance and opponents that greatly impacted the results; and these Assumption were periodically adjusted.

Accordingly, it was hypothetically possible that the exact same result in Week 4 could yield an entirely different PFF grade in Week 8 simply because the Assumptions had been adjusted.
 
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El Chapo Jr

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I think that is the plan.
But, things often play out differently.
The number one guy I will be watching early this season is Avila. He was not good last year particularly in pass pro.
He was bailed out a lot (as the Rams OL often is as a whole) by Stafford quick release.
He is healthy now so hopefully he can get back on track.
I'm with you, need to see Avila step up his game vs last year. Need that big boy to clear some paths and pancake any trespassers.
 

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The first 5 games - teams ran all over us. Then he gets hurt in the first half against the Raiders and in the second half and the rest of the season our defense slams shut the opposing teams run game in almost every game except Philadelphia. Coincidence?
I think, if you look at all the team stats from the 6th game on you will see improvement. Both offense and defense. So yes to some extent a coincidence. He was definitely part of the problem. I just don't like dumping the whole thing on him. I mean come on. The Ol for the lions crushed our front 7 in the overtime.
 

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The problem with PFF grading, is that if one questions it ... and, personally, I REALLY do ... you can't turn around and use it to support your opinion when their grade happens to agree with your opinion.

Years ago, when PFF (started in the U.K.) was becoming very popular (Cris Collinsworth ... huge supporter and one-time majority investor), I did a deep-dive in how their grading system worked.

It would take me multiple pages to explain in detail (the Devil is in the details) some of the foundation / core principles for PFF's grading system ... and, to be fair, it may well have changed and/or evolved. However, at that time, without any pre-conceived opinions, I came-away very Unimpressed with PFF.

There were a number of reasons but one of the primary factors was that their analysts (mostly, NOT former coaches, players or scouts) started their analysis with core Assumptions about performance and opponents that greatly impacted the results; and these Assumption were periodically adjusted.

Accordingly, it was hypothetically possible that the exact same result in Week 4 could yield an entirely different PFF grade in Week 8 simply because the Assumptions had been adjusted.
Yeah. I just see some of the grades after watching a game and it seems they were watching a different game entirely. Just not a fan of all these grading "systems". They all need to find a new method that has never been used before and is a newer and better mouse trap. IMO PFF is the worst in this respect.
 

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I think it’s possible that Avila’s struggles coincided with having a rookie Center alongside him, that didn’t do great with the blocking scheme calls. The Rams screen game was good in 2023 and didn’t work as well in 2024. The common denominator was Shelton being gone.
Think both Avila AND Dotson dipping in play had to do with that, it looked to me like Dotson was making the calls at times during the season too. Whole trickle down effect for the whole line.

Think people forget how well that line was playing at the end of 2023. The really took a dip in 2024.
 

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The problem with PFF grading, is that if one questions it ... and, personally, I REALLY do ... you can't turn around and use it to support your opinion when their grade happens to agree with your opinion.

Years ago, when PFF (started in the U.K.) was becoming very popular (Cris Collinsworth ... huge supporter and one-time majority investor), I did a deep-dive in how their grading system worked.

It would take me multiple pages to explain in detail (the Devil is in the details) some of the foundation / core principles for PFF's grading system ... and, to be fair, it may well have changed and/or evolved. However, at that time, without any pre-conceived opinions, I came-away very Unimpressed with PFF.

There were a number of reasons but a primary factor was that their analysts (mostly, NOT former coaches, players or scouts) started their analysis with core Assumptions about player responsibilities, performance and opponents that greatly impacted the results; and these Assumption were periodically adjusted.

Accordingly, it was hypothetically possible that the exact same result in Week 4 could yield an entirely different PFF grade in Week 8 simply because the Assumptions had been adjusted.
I think it's useful but it's kinda like looking at combine numbers. I use them to check against what I see in the games and if there's a big variance, I try to dive a little deeper to see if I'm missing something.
 

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I think, if you look at all the team stats from the 6th game on you will see improvement. Both offense and defense. So yes to some extent a coincidence. He was definitely part of the problem. I just don't like dumping the whole thing on him. I mean come on. The Ol for the lions crushed our front 7 in the overtime.
If you read my other posts, I put 50% of the blame on the 1-4 start due to the combo pairing of Reeder and Rozeboom as ILB. They were the absolute worst pair of ILB in the league those first 5 games. I don't put the entire blame on Reeder. But he was NOT an asset during those games. He made a play from time to time but they were more than offset by frequent horrible plays the rest of the game. My wife who watches the game with me always asked me - why do they play Reeder. He is horrible. And for her to notice how poorly he is playing just shows how bad he was playing. My wife has MS and it is really tough for her to pay attention to everything that is going on.
 

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This makes no sense. He was better at pass blocking than run blocking yet he had an overall grade lower than his run blocking grade. I wonder why many don't trust PFF grades or think they're horse shit.
Sometimes PFF overall grades are lower than the individual run block or pass block grades due to penalties by the player being taken into account - as they should be.

Penalties, especially against OL are drive killers.

Looking specifically at Limmer's 2024 pre-season, he had 2 penalties which dropped his overall rating.