Kyren Williams

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Ground Chuck said:
You don’t like my hyperbole, @OldSchool ?

I think you get the point. I’m not Kyren’s lawyer here. The dude has this Wendell Tyler-like penchant for fumbling in the most destructive ways, at the worst times. My point was people sure are quick to call for a guys head. I bet some of the same guys were marveling at what a clutch player he was earlier in the game.

It’s the same thing with Karty. I’m not sure how much responsibility he bears for the blocked kicks, but now I hear all these know-it-all podcasters calling for us to bring in another kicker. Pure bloodlust, @OldSchool !!

I was probably more pissed at his bad squib kick than the shanked 53 yarder.

That game as a whole was just one bad thing after another. Maybe the worst feeling I’ve had after a Rams -Niners game since walking out of Candlestick in the 1989 NCFCG.
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Using a term like bloodlust for a simple disagreement is just going to embolden the people you're disagreeing with and will just escalate the debate. There is absolutely no reason to do something like that since it's very very easy to continue the debate with out flaming the fires. Add to that there simply isn't anything resembling bloodlust going on here so it's pretty foolish to use that term.
 
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den-the-coach said:
You like potato and I like potato
You like tomato and I like tomato
Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto
Let's call the whole thing off
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Seriously these debates always escalate for no reason by a subsection of the forum that back the guy more than the rest for whatever reason. It's not limited to Kyren nor is it limited to the guys circling the wagons around him.
 
Jacobarch said:
No doubt he is a top 5 rb. But the only thing he's 1st in is the thing we're all pissed off about
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Thing is Hes not the only one turning over the ball. Stafford is Bad with Int and is top 10 since 2023. Int is just as bad as a fumble.
Outside of Kyren who has scored on this team? Theres reasons they are going to Kyren. Hes the only one that knows how to score at this point.

Im more pissed at our o'line than I am Kyren by far. They suck! Our RZ percent is 21st in the league.

Fieldgoal blocking is gone and they forgot how.
 
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RamDino said:
I love Kyren Williams but I don't think Bill Parcells would put up with those fumbles. In Mcvay I trust though.
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Here's the problem that I see. McVay doesn't have many choices.

Corum has stone hands, just had a horrible fumble himself, is not nearly as good in pass pro, and in general has not taken the bull by the horns in showing that he could or should be RB1. Hunter is a rookie.

I don't see a way for McVay to punish KW.
 
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20hrswk said:
Would you rather have Kyren or Omarion Hampton?

Kyren or Judkins?

Answers will say a lot about how people view Kyren.
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Kyren is a distant 3rd.

Kyren's stats are a bit inflated by getting almost every snap, and particularly in scoring situations. He's used like more of a bell cow than almost any other RB in the NFL, despite his smaller stature and lack of explosiveness.
 
20hrswk said:
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Would you rather have Kyren or Omarion Hampton?

Kyren or Judkins?"

Can you answer the question?
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well it’s a stupid question, because it has no relevance. I’d rather have tyler Warren than Higbee. So what?
Who would you rather have, Jefferson or Tutu?
 
jap said:
No problemo!

How come these Internet spelling checkers tend to ignore my spelling errors when I make them, but overcorrect words that were spelled correctly and needed no literary mending? :thinking:
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Ha. Touché my friend. And I am the one playing the school marm, internet spell checker. :laugh1: :clinkingbeer:
 
dieterbrock said:
well it’s a stupid question, because it has no relevance. I’d rather have tyler Warren than Higbee. So what?
Who would you rather have, Jefferson or Tutu?
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I thought it relevant because the topic had turned to Kyren's ranking in the league's RBs.

For me, there's no question I would take Hampton or Judkins over Kyren and I can't see why anyone would think different.

I can name 12 - 15? RBs I would take over Kyren - all due respect to Kyren, his effort, his professionalism, etc., but he is limited and it limits my favorite team's offense.

I want "another Gurley". It would totally open up so much for the Ram offense.

No defense fears Kyren and that allows them to play a bit closer to our WRs/TEs, making everything on Offense a bit tougher. You put a guy like Hampton/Judkins in the backfield and defenses have to protect against them going 70 yards on any one carry, etc, thus playing off WRs/TEs just a bit and allowing Stafford a foot here and a foot there he's not afforded with less explosive RBs.

Not to mention the Defense must "bite" just a bit harder on a play fake to a Hampton/Saquon/Gibbs/Bijan than they do on a play fake to Kyren. Again, that gives 9 and his WRs/TEs a foot here and a foot there more than usual - opens everything up on offense = 30pts/game.

Again, all due respect to Kyren, but as one poster pointed out recently, Kyren's production / rankings is a function of his volume more than his ability. When you have more touches/chances than most all other RBs, you're going to have bigger numbers. To me, Kyren is very blessed to be in the Ram/McVay offense getting ALL the carries/targets/goalline opportunities.
 
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pvtdragon39 said:
Sorry I read it as fumbles because thats all Ive been seeing. Correct 19 carries per TD to 66 carries per fumble.

Kyren 35TD is like 40% of entire TD of the team in 3 years. Everyone can argue is short yard TD but Puka only has only 11, and Kupp has 11, Drob has 11 and last two dont even count anymore. Without Kyren this team is NOTHING and worse than the Saints!
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Wow Puka helps getting him there doesn't he? Discounting what Puka has done is crazy talk.
 
El Chapo Jr said:
Wow Puka helps getting him there doesn't he? Discounting what Puka has done is crazy talk.
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Im not discounting what Puka does. I love Puka but He is MIA in RZ. Outside of Kyren we do not score shit. Sorry you dont like the truth.

Does anyone else on this team in last 3 years have even half of the TD Kyren has? The Short answer is no, Not even Close!

What else is crazy talk is the shitting on Kyren trade him BS that some of you are wanting. He doesnt do shit BS that you are all throwing around.

Dont Act Like Kyren doesnt do anything and dont march down the field neither. He leads the NFL in first downs. Its the Puka/Kyren show.
 
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Hunter is going to be assimilated into greater playing roles moving forward. We have a week and a half before we visit the Ravens in Week Six, and we get our Bye Week in Week Eight. Hopefully, Jarquez has ramped up enough pass blocking skills to take more pressure off of Kyren and introduce another home run threat for the Horns. Gurleymen do not grow on trees: some of them grow up in Philadelphia, Mississippi like Jarquez. We could use that home run threat out of the backfield again.
 
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20hrswk said:
Would you rather have Kyren or Omarion Hampton?

Kyren or Judkins?

Answers will say a lot about how people view Kyren.
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I'd certainly take Hampton over Kyren all things considered (youth, speed, power, cheaper, etc.) I think Hampton is pretty special, I think Kyren is above average (with a crucial fumbling problem). I could probably apply all those those to Judkins as well.

I do think we have a guy on the roster that could be similar to Hampton/Judkins, but, we have yet to give him a chance, so too early to know.
 
pvtdragon39 said:
Im not discounting what Puka does. I love Puka but He is MIA in RZ. Outside of Kyren we do not score shit. Sorry you dont like the truth.

Does anyone else on this team in last 3 years have even half of the TD Kyren has? The Short answer is no, Not even Close!

What else is crazy talk is the shitting on Kyren trade him BS that some of you are wanting. He doesnt do shit BS that you are all throwing around.

Dont Act Like Kyren doesnt do anything and dont march down the field neither. He leads the NFL in first downs. Its the Puka/Kyren show.
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Maybe run Puka on more jet sweps, or do that WR screen we love so much. Its not Puka's fault if they can't get the ball in his hands in the RZ. Maybe scheme something else up. RBs are a whole different story because if you want them to take the rock, you just hand it off. You are trying to just win some weird ass argument about Kyren and shit on Puka in the process which is laughable as hell. Just for the record, I never once said to trade Kyren nor completely bench him either. I personally thought we were better off trading him (if possible) for draft capital to take Judkins (cheaper contract too) back in the draft. Once Kyren was re-signed, its obvious he was staying on the team as the starting RB so that obviously killed that thought. I'm in the camp of if he can't handle those important goal line scores without fumbling, try another RB at that moment or just throw the ball. Nothing worse than the back breaking turnovers he has been making all of us accustomed to.
 
Flatlyner said:
I'd certainly take Hampton over Kyren all things considered (youth, speed, power, cheaper, etc.) I think Hampton is pretty special, I think Kyren is above average (with a crucial fumbling problem). I could probably apply all those those to Judkins as well.

I do think we have a guy on the roster that could be similar to Hampton/Judkins, but, we have yet to give him a chance, so too early to know.
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Yeah they need to give Hunter a lil run every now and then. Can't ever truly know what a player has if they get zero run. Maybe we'll see him one day. I'm hoping we personally see more Ferguson. Just him catching that pass showed me this kid can be a mismatch if we actually utilize him.
 
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