Kyler Murray's clapping a greater concern than his poor preseason performances

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Kyler Murray's clapping has now become a greater concern than his poor preseason performances

Kyler Murray didn't exactly look like a No. 1 overall pick during the Arizona Cardinals' 33-26 loss to the Oakland Raiders in their second preseason gameon Thursday.

While that's hardly anything to write home about, one could simply throw their hands in the air and say, "Well, it's just preseason." What is a bit concerning (or at least something to monitor throughout the rest of the preseason and throughout Murray's rookie season), is the fact that the quarterback was called for two false starts in his short time on the field.

Murray was called for the infractions due to him clapping for the snap. As Josh Weinfuss of ESPN relays, Murray said officials told him that his clap was "too abrupt" and "not smooth enough as far as bringing my hands together."

Last season, quarterbacks were flagged for false starts just eight times, so this is a pretty rare occurrence.

This was apparently on the mind of the Cardinals prior to the start of Thursday's contest as ESPN cameras caught head coach Kliff Kingsbury talking to officials and seemingly explaining the hand clapping of Murray.


View: https://twitter.com/kococarson/status/1162159960123412480?s=21


A clap out of the shotgun is legal for a quarterback, but Murray is entering a gray area with how sudden those movements become. Per league rules: "A player who is in position to receive the snap in shotgun formation is permitted to shift his feet prior to the snap, but any quick and abrupt movement that draws a reaction from the defense is a False Start."

"To me, it's like any other hard count," Murray said of his clapping after the game. "It's the defense's job to watch the ball. So it really doesn't make sense to me, but we're trying to fix things out right now."

Kingsbury did note that the team has been in contact with the league about how his offense is orchestrated and believes repetition will smooth things over with all sides.

"It's the first time for certain officials to see it," Kingsbury said. "We've been in contact with the league and have had great conversations on it. We're going to work through that and make sure everybody is on the same page. We want to be on the same page with them, and make sure we're doing things that they deem legal."

Aside from the false start penalties, Murray struggled mightily. The rookie went 3-for-8 for just 12 passing yards on the night despite getting four offensive possesions for the Cardinals. Those four drives totaled 15 players, traveled negative 13 yards, and resulted in three punts. Murray was also taken down in the end zone for a safety in his final moment on the field for the game.

Yuck.

While Kingsbury and the Cardinals are being forthcoming with their offensive style, Arizona may run into a few speed bumps as various officials across the league have yet to put them under the microscope.

And soon enough, those false starts could be called in regular-season games.
 

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Anyone see Murray yet in preseason?

I haven’t. Reviews shaky so far.
 

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Anyone see Murray yet in preseason?

I haven’t. Reviews shaky so far.

First game they said he was the greatest thing since Betty White (who was born before slice bread) and after this game now there are concerns.

First off, he's a rookie QB, there are going to be many ups & downs, plus he's playing behind the worst offensive line in football as the Arizona Cardinals did nothing to improve the horrendous unit from last season besides adding J.R. Sweezey, who was awful in Seattle.

Murray will be running for his life and defenses are starting to key on him, hopefully, Murray is able to protect himself, but we as Ram fans know, it starts up front and if the Cardinals don't address that, Murray will be treated like a rag doll.
 
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The Rams have a history of breaking Tardninal QB's..... and Kyler is a gnat sized one. The math doesn't look good for him....
 

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I'm sure it won't take long for AD to get his hands on him and throw him around like a rag doll like he has with Russell Wilson
 

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Anyone see Murray yet in preseason?

I haven’t. Reviews shaky so far.
Watched both gm's (1st half)
He looked REALLY comfortable and sharp in gm 1.
In gm 2 i felt the game speed got to him a little bit. Not bad decisions, just indecisive and inaccurate.
His protection was shoddy in both gm's and they haven't been able to establish the run game yet.
Young WR's Isabella & Sherfield look like they can play.

On D they've been gashed. Just a lack of talent up front IMO. They could be terrible.
 

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The Cardinals are a dumpster fire. Murray looked like a child out there against Oakland. Put a fork in his rookie year, it's over before it began.
 

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Well, I want to hate on his short @ss....but it is preseason. Still, he is relying on a shotgun formation and a BS college scheme to make up for his inexperience, lack of a good Oline, and his short stature.

Teams are going to know that he has to roll out a lot, just to get a pass off. He might get a few cheap TD's early on before opposing team DC's decide to cut that off. I hope the kid is tough, he's going to need to be.
 

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Well, I want to hate on his short @ss....but it is preseason. Still, he is relying on a shotgun formation and a BS college scheme to make up for his inexperience, lack of a good Oline, and his short stature.

Teams are going to know that he has to roll out a lot, just to get a pass off. He might get a few cheap TD's early on before opposing team DC's decide to cut that off. I hope the kid is tough, he's going to need to be.

Most likely they want to emulate Mahomes' game, who is successful for the most part.. Not sure Kyler or the Cardinals can be that though.
 

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Well, I want to hate on his short @ss....but it is preseason. Still, he is relying on a shotgun formation and a BS college scheme to make up for his inexperience, lack of a good Oline, and his short stature.

Teams are going to know that he has to roll out a lot, just to get a pass off. He might get a few cheap TD's early on before opposing team DC's decide to cut that off. I hope the kid is tough, he's going to need to be.
Precisely.

If AZ o line is as bad as it has been the past couple years, Murry wont stand a chance.
Neither will David Johnson, who is proven to be an excellent back
 

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What it looked like to me was that Kyler was not just clapping his hands together like you see with most shotgun formations but clapping them and immediately opening them like the ball was coming. It was what appeared like a "football move". I would definitely call it illegal motion.

That said, it seems pretty simple to figure out unless he's stupid. Do the acceptable move that has been done by most if not all other QBs and quit trying to be cute.

That THAT being said.... He looked like a high schooler out there against the Faiders. He just looked scared.