Had Fisher drafted Bradford his development would have been much quicker and I believe he would have realized his potential much faster. Bradford was drafted into QB hell. Multiple offenses to learn and a terrible team around him.
Agreed. It really sucks how things have turned out.Agree. Then again; health has been the bigger concern these last 2 seasons. His skill a lesser concern.
Agreed. It really sucks how things have turned out.
If he comes back healthy; he's primed to be a breakout player... IMO.
If they really try to bring in Cousins to "compete" with Bradford, the only reason he would lose is because he's laughing so hard that he throws picks in practice.
LOL
I think I'd quit too if Manziel were my QB.
And Mack, Gordon, and Cameron played most of the year for Turner.but he wasn't....unless, you wanna count a few games as "their qb"..
either way, chud/turner got way more out of that offense than he did
but he wasn't....unless, you wanna count a few games as "their qb"..
either way, chud/turner got way more out of that offense than he did
A few things:
1. Chud and Turner are both highly respected minds
2. As FRO said, they had Mack, Gordon, and Cameron for most of the year
3. The offense scored 278 points in 2014 vs. 273 points in 2013
So I think I'm going to have to disagree.
And yes, Manziel is their QB. He's the guy they took in the first round. Even if he isn't, who is going to play QB for you? Hoyer played terribly down the stretch and is a FA. So it's Manziel or a FA or a QB from a trade.
K mack you have somethin -
but whenever he did have Gordon, it wasn't that spectacular,including Cameron - especially when you compare it to the year before.
I've listed my reasons about him - not saying i'd be upset about him, but i wouldn't be ecstatic either: hence, indifference
Probably because Gordon wasn't in shape and didn't know the playbook.
You also ignored that the offense scored just as much this year as they did last year.
I don't think the guy is the greatest OC ever but claiming he did far less than Chud and Turner with the same offense just isn't true...it wasn't the same offense and he managed to put up just as many points with less talent.
If they ditch Manziel who will they get to play QB? They aren't in position for Winston/Mariota. There are no real veteran options. They will give Manziel a full year to show himself. The Browns need to hire a OC who runs a college offense.A few things:
1. Chud and Turner are both highly respected minds
2. As FRO said, they had Mack, Gordon, and Cameron for most of the year
3. The offense scored 278 points in 2014 vs. 273 points in 2013
So I think I'm going to have to disagree.
And yes, Manziel is their QB. He's the guy they took in the first round. Even if he isn't, who is going to play QB for you? Hoyer played terribly down the stretch and is a FA. So it's Manziel or a FA or a QB from a trade.
Gordon admitted running the wrong routes. He didn't know what he was doing out there.This assumption would be contrary to reports all year that were said about Gordon, especially about him being in shape
The offense the year before looked more effective and explosive; this past years? not so much, and i question how many of those points were garbage time points
I completely disagree - he had more talent, especially in the backfield...
Irregardless, as I have said before, my biggest issue with Kyle is his attitude, and his potential longevity
link?Gordon admitted running the wrong routes. He didn't know what he was doing out there.
http://factoryofsadness.co/2014/12/08/josh-gordon-shape-cleveland-browns-buzz/This assumption would be contrary to reports all year that were said about Gordon, especially about him being in shape
The offense the year before looked more effective and explosive; this past years? not so much, and i question how many of those points were garbage time points
I completely disagree - he had more talent, especially in the backfield...
Irregardless, as I have said before, my biggest issue with Kyle is his attitude, and his potential longevity
But isn't he part of reason they drafted him. Didn't he text KS and tell him to pick him?LOL
I think I'd quit too if Manziel were my QB.