Kupp

[I like Rams]

Don't agree on Robinson he has been a great #3.

Yea I pretty much stopped reading after he said that. Imo, we cannot really rely on hope that Kupp comes back 100% next season, we have to prepare for the worst. Puka is our #1 going into next season, and I think we need to ink Robinson for a short contract, giving him #2 money, which is the level he has played at. Gonna have to keep Kupp bc of contract, and if he isn't 100% next season, I still feel he is not gonna play lower than wr3 talent. Draft a receiver with the mindset that Kupps best days may be behind him.

 

[Ram65]

It's injuries. He has had the burst he usually has.

He has taken a lot of hits and some awkward falls to the turf. He is on watch. Of course Rams need to keep adding to the WR corp.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

Yea I pretty much stopped reading after he said that. Imo, we cannot really rely on hope that Kupp comes back 100% next season, we have to prepare for the worst. Puka is our #1 going into next season, and I think we need to ink Robinson for a short contract, giving him #2 money, which is the level he has played at. Gonna have to keep Kupp bc of contract, and if he isn't 100% next season, I still feel he is not gonna play lower than wr3 talent. Draft a receiver with the mindset that Kupps best days may be behind him.

So are you saying that we should sign Robinson and elevate him to the #2 role and push Kupp down to the #3?
Kind of a radical idea but with injuries and the apparent physical limitations of C. Kupp mebbe it's a viable plan.
Don't get me wrong I liked what Robinson brought to the offense this year but can't help wondering why the Chiefs and Andy Reid let him go after some productive years in KC.


Gonna be an interesting off season for sure.....

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[Ramstien]

I have faith that Kupp will heal up and come back to play great football again as a Ram.

 

[I like Rams]

So are you saying that we should sign Robinson and elevate him to the #2 role and push Kupp down to the #3?
Kind of a radical idea but with injuries and the apparent physical limitations of C. Kupp mebbe it's a viable plan.
Don't get me wrong I liked what Robinson brought to the offense this year but can't help wondering why the Chiefs and Andy Reid let him go after some productive years in KC.


Gonna be an interesting off season for sure.....

~ArkyRamsFan~

No, I'm suggesting paying him wr2 money to keep him on the team. He is gonna generate interest from other teams, but no one is gonna give him #1 money. So in order to retain him, we need to pay him according to his play. If Kupp comes back 100%, then we have at least a very good #3 in Robinson who won't be on the books for longer than 2 years. Or if Kupp gets injured again, he is a security blanket.

Andy Reid had a great core receiver group and Robinson was buried. Same thing happened to Dotson in Pitt and Woods was overshadowed by Watkins when in Buff. I don't think it's fair to consider past play for a player when they are balling out with your team. Sometimes a player fits better in a certain system where the coach can take advantage of his abilities.

 

[Merlin]

So are you saying that we should sign Robinson and elevate him to the #2 role and push Kupp down to the #3?
Kind of a radical idea but with injuries and the apparent physical limitations of C. Kupp mebbe it's a viable plan.

Robinson isn't going to fit.

First off we need speed outside the hash and in that X role. We're not going to get that on the cheap. That will be filled by signing a stud in FA like Evans or a first or second round pick. I'd prefer the FA route simply because then we can focus defense in the draft but it's one or the other.

Once those top three roles are filled Robinson is relegated to a first guy off the bench role for the wideout group. Which is appropriate for him. But not if some stupid team wants to pay him pseudo WR2/3 money.

And in the event the Rams are thinking Tutu is the WR4 let's call it, then Robinson is the depth chart guy who doesn't play teams.

He's gone in FA and I hope he gets the best payday possible.

 

[Haden]

I wonder if the Rams will ask him to take a pay cut to free up even more $$$? His value has likely declined on the open market.

 

[I like Rams]

Robinson isn't going to fit.

First off we need speed outside the hash and in that X role. We're not going to get that on the cheap. That will be filled by signing a stud in FA like Evans or a first or second round pick. I'd prefer the FA route simply because then we can focus defense in the draft but it's one or the other.

Once those top three roles are filled Robinson is relegated to a first guy off the bench role for the wideout group. Which is appropriate for him. But not if some stupid team wants to pay him pseudo WR2/3 money.

And in the event the Rams are thinking Tutu is the WR4 let's call it, then Robinson is the depth chart guy who doesn't play teams.

He's gone in FA and I hope he gets the best payday possible.

I'm not sure how you say he doesn't fit when he has proved he does. I don't think I have to go over who our wr core is right now, but the only ones who have produced the most are Puka and Robinson. Robinson has played above tutu. I don't think tutu's job is safe, honestly. So if it's not that means we'd lose both Robinson and tutu and left with a great receiver in puka and a question mark in kupp. We could add in the draft, which I still think they should, or we could use premium draft capital to target a #1, but I feel that draft capital would be best used in a role that we are lacking. Getting rid of Robinson only makes another hole that we don't need ATM, imo.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

Puka would not have had the year he's had without Kupp. He's the QB in the WR room. Our playbook is hard to digest and Kupp tells him what route to run, and how to run it after the play has been called. Puka is an athlete but he is not ready to be the brains and veteran leader of the receiver room.

Give Kupp one year to bounce back and rehab that hammy. He's a our Superbowl MVP, so we can at least give him a chance.

 

[Merlin]

I'm not sure how you say he doesn't fit when he has proved he does. I don't think I have to go over who our wr core is right now, but the only ones who have produced the most are Puka and Robinson. Robinson has played above tutu. I don't think tutu's job is safe, honestly. So if it's not that means we'd lose both Robinson and tutu and left with a great receiver in puka and a question mark in kupp. We could add in the draft, which I still think they should, or we could use premium draft capital to target a #1, but I feel that draft capital would be best used in a role that we are lacking. Getting rid of Robinson only makes another hole that we don't need ATM, imo.

I explained it. I thought.

We need to improve our speed outside. Robinson is where that happens. I like the guy. Been talking him up since he emerged too. But he's not the speed element we need so badly. The explosives generator.

This league is all about explosives now. Rams are at the forefront of trends. They're gonna want to improve there on both sides of the ball. More of them on offense and being able to limit them on defense. Speed speed speed. IMO.

And if you think I'm nuts that's cool too. I don't mind disagreement.

 

[I like Rams]

I explained it. I thought.

We need to improve our speed outside. Robinson is where that happens. I like the guy. Been talking him up since he emerged too. But he's not the speed element we need so badly. The explosives generator.

This league is all about explosives now. Rams are at the forefront of trends. They're gonna want to improve there on both sides of the ball. More of them on offense and being able to limit them on defense. Speed speed speed. IMO.

And if you think I'm nuts that's cool too. I don't mind disagreement.

Lol I don't think you're nuts, homie. I agree speed is a great thing to have, but we have speed in tutu and he's rarely used. Honestly I think he has shown to be much more than just a gadget guy considering how well he was playing when kupp was out. Why we haven't involved him more is beyond me. Personally my whole mindset in the off-season, which I'm hoping is the front offices as well, is keeping Stafford up, and keeping opposing qbs down. So both oline and dline are where we need to invest the most capital, imo. We have done a pretty good job without a speedy receiver, and we should still address wr in the draft, but hoping we score big on the wr pick and dumping something we know works, I prefer playing it safe here. With the possibility if you do hit on the wr pick, it's a good problem to have rather than the afore mentioned.

 

[Merlin]

I agree speed is a great thing to have, but we have speed in tutu and he's rarely used.

Many think this way but not me. Way I see it Tutu isn't good enough to be more than an occasional contributor. Try to give too many of those types a bigger role than they deserve and you end up with an offense that stagnates.

Now the Rams may not go find that speed at wideout this year. And if that happens then I suppose Robinson could have a role. But McVay generally doesn't fuck around with his pass game pieces. So I'd be very surprised if he doesn't look to upgrade. We have size and possession covered in this offense, now we need that third kind of heat.

 

[I like Rams]

Many think this way but not me. Way I see it Tutu isn't good enough to be more than an occasional contributor. Try to give too many of those types a bigger role than they deserve and you end up with an offense that stagnates.

Now the Rams may not go find that speed at wideout this year. And if that happens then I suppose Robinson could have a role. But McVay generally doesn't fuck around with his pass game pieces. So I'd be very surprised if he doesn't look to upgrade. We have size and possession covered in this offense, now we need that third kind of heat.

I'm just scared mcvay is gonna go small/fast receiver (tutu/cooks) again if he does focus on speed. That seems to be Mcvays forte when it comes to speedy receivers. Unless you count Van Jefferson in that category then there is that acception.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Many think this way but not me. Way I see it Tutu isn't good enough to be more than an occasional contributor. Try to give too many of those types a bigger role than they deserve and you end up with an offense that stagnates.

Now the Rams may not go find that speed at wideout this year. And if that happens then I suppose Robinson could have a role. But McVay generally doesn't fuck around with his pass game pieces. So I'd be very surprised if he doesn't look to upgrade. We have size and possession covered in this offense, now we need that third kind of heat.

At X you ideally want speed and size. Tutu only has the one and like a negative at the other. You def want to upgrade at X if you can but I wouldn't sneeze at signing Robinson this offseason at a price. At a price.

 

[Merlin]

I'm just scared mcvay is gonna go small/fast receiver (tutu/cooks) again if he does focus on speed. That seems to be Mcvays forte when it comes to speedy receivers. Unless you count Van Jefferson in that category then there is that acception.

Yeah that's a real fear, though Snead has whiffed on two undersized wideouts now in the first and second round. I would hope at this point the org is ready to learn from those mistakes.

Also Stafford is best served by good catch radius types. Between his occasional wildness in his ball placement or his creativity or due to no looks or whatever I feel like that's a nice match for a QB like him.

Once again I'd love to see us solve this problem through FA then the draft is free for defense. I just acknowledge after this much watching of McVay do his thing that the pass game is always a priority for him. He's gonna want that third toy out there.

 

[MachS]

We need to go WR with our 1st, been saying it for weeks. Kupp is 30 and had injury concerns even before his triple crown season. 4 years in college setting every record known to man, the dude has MILES on that body. Who knows if he ever gets back to old Kupp. We cant bet on it, need to have a contingency.

Time for an elite top of the draft WR for once so McVay has a new toy to play with.

 

[I like Rams]

We need to go WR with our 1st, been saying it for weeks. Kupp is 30 and had injury concerns even before his triple crown season. 4 years in college setting every record known to man, the dude has MILES on that body. Who knows if he ever gets back to old Kupp. We cant bet on it, need to have a contingency.

Time for an elite top of the draft WR for once so McVay has a new toy to play with.

McVay??? Is that you??

 

[Londoner]

We need to go WR with our 1st,

 

[jrry32]

I want to see how he looks next year. Guy played this entire season with lower-body injuries. But I think you always have to be adding to the position. I'd look to draft a WR somewhere.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Got to be better with almost a $30K cap number.