Kellerman "shuts down" Goff vs Wentz debate

[Reddog99]

Philadelphia Eagles: Max Kellerman shuts down a Carson Wentz versus Goff debate

Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz has a higher ceiling than the Rams' Jared Goff, and no one believes that more than Max Kellerman of ESPN's First Take.

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[Da-Rock]

Unless he gets injured of course

 

[SuperMan28]

Didnt the Eagles play better when Foles took over? If I'm an Eagles fan I'm nervous about Nick Foles not being on the team this year. It was almost a chemistry factor. Plus I heard Wentz had some tunnel vision going on last year. Apparently he only really wanted to throw to Ertz. Foles steps in and Eagles nearly beat the Saints. Not sure Wentz had all his confidence after his knee injury, either.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Goff outperform wentz this year. The talent the Rams have a reciever with Kupp back in there is impressive.

 

[LesBaker]

There will always be comparisons between Goff and Wentz. Even after Wentz is out of the NFL due to injury issues.

 

[Merlin]

If I'm a GM I am confident building around Wentz. But I think the Rams made the right choice.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

I think Wentz will be more one-dimensional now and easier to defend. Either that or injuries will just pile up and shorten his career.

As for ceiling, check out Goff's trajectory of improvement from year to year. It's steep.

 

[FaulkSF]

I want my two minutes back from reading that article. What an unbelievable crock of crap.

 

[DR RAM]

Goff is a better leader, has a better arm, and from my biased opinion, a better all around player. I wanted Wentz as my 1a, but Goff was a very close 1b. Glad we got Goff.

 

[Loyal]

Didnt the Eagles play better when Foles took over? If I'm an Eagles fan I'm nervous about Nick Foles not being on the team this year. It was almost a chemistry factor. Plus I heard Wentz had some tunnel vision going on last year. Apparently he only really wanted to throw to Ertz. Foles steps in and Eagles nearly beat the Saints. Not sure Wentz had all his confidence after his knee injury, either.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Goff outperform wentz this year. The talent the Rams have a reciever with Kupp back in there is impressive.

Time to jump on the Rams bandwagon again, bro. SJAX would approve.

 

[SuperMan28]

Time to jump on the Rams bandwagon again, bro. SJAX would approve.

That's very kind.

 

[Loyal]

That's very kind.

You can still follow the Chiefs and normally would only have a conflict this year in the Super Bowl!

 

[OregonRamsFan]

You know, with such a small sample size of playoff games that Wentz actually played in, it’s hard to compare apples to apples. Goff played his way to the SB. I think that deserves some respect.

 

[SuperMan28]

You can still follow the Chiefs and normally would only have a conflict this year in the Super Bowl!

You're a good guy.

Took me a while to redefine the nature of my association here on ROD (CGI agrees) but I like it. All is good.

 

[So Ram]

If I'm a GM I am confident building around Wentz. But I think the Rams made the right choice.

To get rid of Nick Foles ??

 

[RamBall]

I thought that when they came out the media agreed Wentz was more ready to play day 1 and Goff had the higher ceiling? Due to Wentz coming from a pro style O in college and Goff coming from an air raid O. I wanted Goff because he had more college experience, was younger and had no history of injury, which IMO was a big advantage over Wentz less than 1 season as a starter and some time missed due to injury. And thus far their NFL careers have been very similar to their college careers. Goff has gotten better every year and Wentz has gotten injured every year.

 

[OldSchool]

Who gives a damn what Kellerman thinks he shuts down.

 

[SoCalRam78]

RPO is a gimmick offense. Designed to get cheap completions. Also not very cerebral. Goff runs a real offense. He’s also two years younger.

Philly should be worried about why their QB tore an ACL and had a random unclear how it happened back stress fracture last two years.

 

[I like Rams]

Wentz should be happy he didnt have to sit behind the O line Goff had to during his rookie season. He could have ended up a one and done QB with his injury history.

 

[oldnotdead]

YAWN Who cares what some talking head thinks? He's a homer and tries to inflate his "boy". LOL Then the dude starts talking about Super Bowls......duhhh his boy was on the bench during theirs.

Ceiling means nothing if a player can't stay healthy. Wentz was healthy only during his rookie year. Then he's missed 8 regular-season games, not counting the playoffs and Super Bowl. Carson has a ring but he didn't play in the game...WOW funny how he forgets about that.

He then destroys his own argument talking about how Pederson is a far better coach. Which then leads to that means Goff is being handicapped by having McVay, a lesser coach. But if Goff isn't as good and he's playing for a lesser coach, why is he putting up basically the same numbers as Wentz with a lesser team and coach around him? So logically if Goff were in Philly he would be playing better with a better team and coach so geee I guess he would be outperforming Wendtz all things being equal. By his own argument, Goff is matching Wendtz in most areas with less.

The dude is a hack who can't write. Goff will probably reach his potential because he stays healthy. Wentz may not reach this high ceiling he's supposed to have if he can't stay healthy. This is a huge season for Wentz. If he goes down again he's going to earn the tag "injury-prone".