Kaepernick to Pats?/Raiders?

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With Jared Goff's beautiful mug and Sean McVay's youthful exuberance, you have nothing to fear. The cameras will be too focused on McBae and Goff.
If that were the honest truth, then I'd be perfectly OK with him as a back up. But it isn't.
Media in most all forms is a business, and nothing is better for their business than people divided. Which is exactly what you get, anytime you introduce politics into any discussion.
To think that the media would NOT be all over this, is wishful thinking.
 

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Well, the reason to have Kaepernick as a backup is that despite any controversies, he is likely significantly better than Mannion. If Goff goes down for a few games, CK is much more likely to win games against good teams than Mannion, and thus is more likely to preserve home-field advantage in the playoffs. The Rams did a lot this offseason, but many feel that obtain an adequate backup for Goff is not one of them. It's insurance, is all. Hopefully those of us skeptical of Mannion are wrong. Even better would be Goff never missing time. But things happen occasionally.
 

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Well, the reason to have Kaepernick as a backup is that despite any controversies, he is likely significantly better than Mannion. If Goff goes down for a few games, CK is much more likely to win games against good teams than Mannion, and thus is more likely to preserve home-field advantage in the playoffs. The Rams did a lot this offseason, but many feel that obtain an adequate backup for Goff is not one of them. It's insurance, is all. Hopefully those of us skeptical of Mannion are wrong. Even better would be Goff never missing time. But things happen occasionally.
I'm sorry I fail to see CK better than Mannion at this point especially since he knows 0 of our current offense and didn't go through preseason. He wasn't a great QB to begin with and with his deficiencies I don't see any point to be even having this conversation at this point. If this was the off season I could hear that argument.
 

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Yeah, in a season where the Rams appear to have their best chance to win a championship in 16 years, what they really need to do is add is a politically driven, media driven major distraction on the sidelines that doesn't even play and wasn't very good when he last played about 2 years ago. Perfect.
 

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I'm sorry I fail to see CK better than Mannion at this point especially since he knows 0 of our current offense and didn't go through preseason. He wasn't a great QB to begin with and with his deficiencies I don't see any point to be even having this conversation at this point. If this was the off season I could hear that argument.

"Knowing" the offense is not overly relevant if you haven't actually shown much ability to actually run it.

CK is not ideal, but he has actually shown an ability to run an NFL offense, even if he's not great. I'd love for somebody better to be freely available. That's not the case. Give him a few weeks to learn the basics of the offense and he is likely to be better than Mannion.

If you have a better upgrade for Mannion, that'd be great, though. But I don't see one necessarily, without trading for one. And that is unlikely. Or do you think that given what we've actually seen last season and in preseason, that Mannion can actually run this offense, despite all the evidence against it?
 

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Media in most all forms is a business,
I know many people in the media, in the form of journalists, writers, editor's and producers that are in it for altruistic and positive reasons and not just about money and business.
 

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I know many people in the media, in the form of journalists, writers, editor's and producers that are in it for altruistic and positive reasons and not just about money and business.
Will they be covering our Rams games on the big networks?
 

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You’re right. Amplify the drama, attention on one bench sitter, and anything but WE times a thousand for the new market being LA. Where do I sign?

Not you. Kaepernick needs to sign.
 

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Why let the Pats or Raiders have him? We need a backup QB.
Sorry to disagree, but imo K would cause our high precision passing game to immediately crater. Can’t see him making either the reads or the throws. Also can’t see McVay reimagining the o for a backup. I think K needs to be in a system designed for an athletic, threat to run qb, but there aren’t really that many of those.
 

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Sorry to disagree, but imo K would cause our high precision passing game to immediately crater. Can’t see him making either the reads or the throws. Also can’t see McVay reimagining the o for a backup. I think K needs to be in a system designed for an athletic, threat to run qb, but there aren’t really that many of those.

So Mannion has shown the ability to make the reads and the throws? When? Not in his start last season. Not in preseason games.

Or do you think that if Kaepernick were to start for a couple of games, that McVay wouldn't be able to adjust to the players he has?

I figure that Cooks, Kupp, and Woods would be able to adjust to what was needed. It wouldn't be nearly as good as with Goff throwing - but Kaepernick wouldn't be in if Goff were available. The question is - what would give the Rams the best chance to win - Mannion or Kaepernick? Based on his preseason and previous NFL experience, I have little faith in Mannion. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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Sorry to disagree, but imo K would cause our high precision passing game to immediately crater. Can’t see him making either the reads or the throws. Also can’t see McVay reimagining the o for a backup. I think K needs to be in a system designed for an athletic, threat to run qb, but there aren’t really that many of those.

McVay is an offensive genius. I'd rather have a backup who offers something. I hope we never have to see our backup starting games, but it's better to be prepared than not.
 

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So Mannion has shown the ability to make the reads and the throws? When? Not in his start last season. Not in preseason games.

Or do you think that if Kaepernick were to start for a couple of games, that McVay wouldn't be able to adjust to the players he has?

I figure that Cooks, Kupp, and Woods would be able to adjust to what was needed. It wouldn't be nearly as good as with Goff throwing - but Kaepernick wouldn't be in if Goff were available. The question is - what would give the Rams the best chance to win - Mannion or Kaepernick? Based on his preseason and previous NFL experience, I have little faith in Mannion. I hope I'm wrong.
I'd be willing to bet that the number of fans in here who think Mannion is a better backup than Kaep is zero. The distraction vs the gain is the debate. IMO there is no debate but by all means continue ROD....
 

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I'd be willing to bet that the number of fans in here who think Mannion is a better backup than Kaep is zero. The distraction vs the gain is the debate. IMO there is no debate but by all means continue ROD....

Yeah, I just don't see it being a big distraction. After a week or so, I think McVay would be able to shut up all critics, and the team would just laugh at reporters who tried to make it an issue. And the only way it would rise up again were if Goff got injured - and the better play of Kaepernick would shut up local fans. And I don't think McVay cares what ESPN and other crappy sources would have to say.

Now, if there's a better alternative - a backup QB without controversy, who actually could come in and be a good backup to Goff - well, bring him on. I'm hoping he's not needed, but the Rams have invested a lot in this season, and the one thing that can really derail them is a Goff injury, since they've stuck with a backup who did not look good against other teams in preseason.
 

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I’m all for Kap getting a job in the league - I’d even support him getting horns. But not now. It’s week 3. If they were going to bring in backup competition, the time was months ago. And for me, distraction is a red herring. The media is going to hound these guys anyway. I just don’t want the QB room playing catch-up when they should be knee deep in the Chargers.
 

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I dont get it, he opted out of the contract he had. And now if nobody offers him a contract worth what he feels he is due he can sue the league? I think I will quit my job tomorrow and if nobdy will hire for more than I make currently I will sue all employers for collusion.
 

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Yeah, I just don't see it being a big distraction. After a week or so, I think McVay would be able to shut up all critics, and the team would just laugh at reporters who tried to make it an issue. And the only way it would rise up again were if Goff got injured - and the better play of Kaepernick would shut up local fans. And I don't think McVay cares what ESPN and other crappy sources would have to say.

Now, if there's a better alternative - a backup QB without controversy, who actually could come in and be a good backup to Goff - well, bring him on. I'm hoping he's not needed, but the Rams have invested a lot in this season, and the one thing that can really derail them is a Goff injury, since they've stuck with a backup who did not look good against other teams in preseason.
There are no real guarantees that kap would be a better QB. He really wasn't that good when he was playing. Actually, pretty damn bad that last year. And that was in a QB friendly Chip Kelley offense. He asked for a release because he didn't want to come in the next year and have to earn the starting position. He wanted it handed to him.
His talent as a QB is that of a pure back up IMO. If he had Franchise, #1 ability, he would be playing in the NFL. He doesn't. So he isn't.
 
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