Kaepernick to Pats?/Raiders?

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Yeah. I heard the "report" last night with a statement from his attorney. I don't think it's gonna happen, especially with Kraperdick's lawsuit against the NFL still going on.
 

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ugh, can we lock any thread that has to do with him? I honestly can't stand even hearing his name.
 

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ugh, can we lock any thread that has to do with him? I honestly can't stand even hearing his name.

Way ahead of you but let's see where this thread goes. As soon as the anthem arguments begin, it's lock time. :cool:
 

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ugh, can we lock any thread that has to do with him? I honestly can't stand even hearing his name.
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so if he's offered a contract isn't his lawsuit pointless?
Only if he accepts it. If the contract is deemed too cheap by him, his agent, and his attorney, they can refuse to sign and still keep his collusion case open. If he accepts the offer then his case would be null and void.
 

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Only if he accepts it. If the contract is deemed too cheap by him, his agent, and his attorney, they can refuse to sign and still keep his collusion case open. If he accepts the offer then his case would be null and void.
But by them offering a contract and say they deem it to low, couldn't that be used against them? It could be viewed as they care more about taking a ton of money from the NFL in court.
 

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so if he's offered a contract isn't his lawsuit pointless?

Only if he accepts it. If the contract is deemed too cheap by him, his agent, and his attorney, they can refuse to sign and still keep his collusion case open. If he accepts the offer then his case would be null and void.

I have been expecting a team to make an offer, though not really to lowball.

Either way if he gets lowballed or not and he accepts or not his suit is finished.
 

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I hope someone signs him, the dude can play. I'd gladly take him over #14
 

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But by them offering a contract and say they deem it to low, couldn't that be used against them? It could be viewed as they care more about taking a ton of money from the NFL in court.
There is that chance, which is why his attorney and agent would probably the ones to decide. My question is, is this all Kapernic wants to be remembered for, or does he at some time want to prove he's a good quarterback? The longer be goes on with his suit the more likely he'll never play.
 

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But by them offering a contract and say they deem it to low, couldn't that be used against them? It could be viewed as they care more about taking a ton of money from the NFL in court.
Which is why his agent and his attorney would have to be careful in making any decision.
 

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He could still have a case about the collusion reducing his value. However, there are still the issues of when the Broncos tried to trade for him and he insisted on being paid like a starter and to have it be an open competition, and of when the Ravens were set to offer him a contract and his GF badly insulted a member of their FO without him publically chastising her, so they didn't make an offer. That's two teams that tried and he burned the bridges with them. Those will be tough to overcome, even more so if he turns down another offer. At some point it becomes a case of him being too big a pain and too after money.

He should have taken a reduced salary with the Broncos, with large bonuses for games started so that if he won the starting job he would have been paid for it. Say $4 million base, and $500k for each start after two starts (so that if he just has a start or two because of injury it wouldn't kick in). That way if he won the job in training camp - and he might have - he'd get his $11 million.
 

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Only if he accepts it. If the contract is deemed too cheap by him, his agent, and his attorney, they can refuse to sign and still keep his collusion case open. If he accepts the offer then his case would be null and void.


Regarding the last sentence, —>no.
The Judge would need to dismiss it with prejudice.
 

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He could still have a case about the collusion reducing his value. However, there are still the issues of when the Broncos tried to trade for him and he insisted on being paid like a starter and to have it be an open competition, and of when the Ravens were set to offer him a contract and his GF badly insulted a member of their FO without him publically chastising her, so they didn't make an offer. That's two teams that tried and he burned the bridges with them. Those will be tough to overcome, even more so if he turns down another offer. At some point it becomes a case of him being too big a pain and too after money.

He should have taken a reduced salary with the Broncos, with large bonuses for games started so that if he won the starting job he would have been paid for it. Say $4 million base, and $500k for each start after two starts (so that if he just has a start or two because of injury it wouldn't kick in). That way if he won the job in training camp - and he might have - he'd get his $11 million.
And technically, didn't he opt out of his 49er contract? I get that he likely would have been cut, but the fact is that he wasn't cut, he chose to be a FA
 

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I hope someone signs him, the dude can play. I'd gladly take him over #14

IMO he's an average QB. Yes he can play in the NFL but he's not a great QB.

My question is, is this all Kapernic wants to be remembered for, or does he at some time want to prove he's a good quarterback?

I don't know him, and I don't really like him because he's done some douchy things. But my guess is that he won't ever be remembered as a good QB since he's just average. He's mediocre.

As far as the other thing he will certainly want to be remembered for it.

However, there are still the issues of when the Broncos tried to trade for him and he insisted on being paid like a starter and to have it be an open competition, and of when the Ravens were set to offer him a contract and his GF badly insulted a member of their FO without him publically chastising her, so they didn't make an offer.

There is a strong possibility the Ravens thing is true, but who knows for sure,and his GF was out of line with that tweet, completely and totally out of line.

The truth on the Broncos thing is he didn't request that. I thought he did too but the truth came out later. He didn't need to take the deal he was already getting paid. Why take a big pay cut? Who would do that. He went back to the 49ers. Why take 7MIL over two seasons when he was making more than DOUBLE that for 1. And as you can see from this SI excerpt this all happened before he started taking a knee.

He turned down the deal because of money. I would have done the same thing.

The Broncos tried to trade for Kaepernick in 2016, shortly after Peyton Manning announced his retirement. But in order to complete the trade with the 49ers, the Broncos wanted Kaepernick to accept a pay cut. The quarterback declined and returned to San Francisco for another season.

Kaepernick began his social justice protest the following 2016 preseason – he was spotted sitting during the national anthem for the first time during a game against the Broncos – and has been out of the league since opting out of his contract with the Niners in the 2017 offseason. Niners general manager later said the team would have cut Kaepernick had he not opted out.
 

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And technically, didn't he opt out of his 49er contract? I get that he likely would have been cut, but the fact is that he wasn't cut, he chose to be a FA

Yes. The entire contract was essentially set up so that if he was worth keeping he made (at the time) some top QB money. And if he wasn't up to snuff they could cut him with little cap damage.