Jordan Fuller

[Rams8821]

Any word? We really need him, we had him on the last drive I think we win.....

What about SJD any chance he comes back?

 

[MachS]

We really need him, we had him on the last drive I think we win.....

He's overrated. Average NFL player at best. I think more time for Burgess is a net positive with his athleticism. The problem is though Nick Scott will be seeing a lot of time. We're weak at safety, outside of Ramsey we're weak at CB, we're weak at ILB. Our DL is good but we dont play the correct coverage on the backend to utilize their effectiveness enough. So very often they seem average.

Point is the defense isn't very good. That much should be plenty obvious by now. Dont think Fuller himself makes that big of a difference alleviating all these issues. We have too many holes.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I hope he can get back on the field. We missed him greatly. He is a leader and the play caller without him not sure who takes on that roll. Only the coaches know who is capable and Ramsey was not a good replacement. I loved seeing some Burgess as solely a positional replacement but he is probably not close to being the captain

 

[Merlin]

If he misses time we are fucked.

 

[Psycho_X]

If he misses time we are fucked.

Yeah, it will not be good if he is out. I saw Jordan R. mentioned that Rapp was out that last series as well but an injury was never disclosed. If Fuller is out it could get ugly. If both him and Rapp out... not that Rapp has been great but that last series yesterday was enough to worry about seeing it for a whole game.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah, it will not be good if he is out. I saw Jordan mentioned that Rapp was out that last series as well but an injury was never disclosed. If Fuller is out it could get ugly. If both him and Rapp out... not that Rapp has been great but that last series yesterday was enough to worry about seeing it for a whole game.

Rapp has zero feel. Been saying it and saying it and saying it. He's improved a bit, but is so hit and miss that it's painful. On that late TD we gave up he was running for the flat as the receiver was breaking inside. No feel. So if we remove Fuller it's going to be too much. Only way we have a win condition at that point is our DL absolutely dominating and lowering the importance of the secondary.

And as good as our DL is they can get nullified here and there by good OL play. So we need Fuller to be ok.

 

[Psycho_X]

Rapp has zero feel. Been saying it and saying it and saying it. He's improved a bit, but is so hit and miss that it's painful. On that late TD we gave up he was running for the flat as the receiver was breaking inside. No feel. So if we remove Fuller it's going to be too much. Only way we have a win condition at that point is our DL absolutely dominating and lowering the importance of the secondary.

And as good as our DL is they can get nullified here and there by good OL play. So we need Fuller to be ok.

Yeah, I'm not saying Rapp being out is the difference maker for us... it's all Fuller back there and that's it. But at least Rapp knows what he SHOULD be doing most of the time even if he is slow to get there. That last drive it didn't look Scott or Burgess were ever on the same page. Also doesn't help that Fuller and Jones were the signal callers. I guess Ramsey took over when Fuller went down. If we could get Jones back maybe that'd help alittle bit if Fuller is out but yeah it'll fall solely on AD and the front 7 to get the job done and they've been very streaky.

 

[OldSchool]

This hasn't changed. We almost never get an injury update the day after an injury. Doesn't matter the player doesn't matter the injury it's very rare for the Rams to come out with an update less than 24 hours after an injury. Stay tuned.

 

[FaulkSF]

Looked bad, Achilles injury. Wishing him the best

 

[Merlin]

Yeah, I'm not saying Rapp being out is the difference maker for us... it's all Fuller back there and that's it. But at least Rapp knows what he SHOULD be doing most of the time even if he is slow to get there. That last drive it didn't look Scott or Burgess were ever on the same page. Also doesn't help that Fuller and Jones were the signal callers. I guess Ramsey took over when Fuller went down. If we could get Jones back maybe that'd help alittle bit if Fuller is out but yeah it'll fall solely on AD and the front 7 to get the job done and they've been very streaky.

Re: Ramsey I don't think he's got the leadership fully down. He still has that shitty young player body language where he wants to show things weren't his fault. When you're calling the defense though you can't be that guy.

It's the old leadership adage about being the rock in the storm. You want people clinging to you. If you're the storm or helping the storm you're doing it wrong.

 

[Ramlife]

Re: Ramsey I don't think he's got the leadership fully down. He still has that shitty young player body language where he wants to show things weren't his fault. When you're calling the defense though you can't be that guy.

It's the old leadership adage about being the rock in the storm. You want people clinging to you. If you're the storm or helping the storm you're doing it wrong.

I totally agree, my brother and I discussed this yesterday. He seems to have a pissy attitude at times when it doesn’t go his way. Always throwing a fit. Hes good though... and we need him.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah, I'm not saying Rapp being out is the difference maker for us... it's all Fuller back there and that's it. But at least Rapp knows what he SHOULD be doing most of the time even if he is slow to get there. That last drive it didn't look Scott or Burgess were ever on the same page. Also doesn't help that Fuller and Jones were the signal callers. I guess Ramsey took over when Fuller went down. If we could get Jones back maybe that'd help alittle bit if Fuller is out but yeah it'll fall solely on AD and the front 7 to get the job done and they've been very streaky.

Yes Scott is a meathead just like Rapp. Like with Rapp I love his game too but I hate his coverage.

Burgess I have no belief in because he was beaten out by Rapp. And the reason I hold that against Burgess in particular is because he was a valued pick so there was every reason for the team to start him. Big flag there for me. But I did notice him once last game so maybe he's improved idk.

I'm grasping at straws here basically with the safeties. Hoping that because I saw Juju Hughes break on a few underneath throws in preseason that maybe he's been overlooked. That does happen with the UDFA dudes.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Yes Scott is a meathead just like Rapp. Like with Rapp I love his game too but I hate his coverage.

Burgess I have no belief in because he was beaten out by Rapp. And the reason I hold that against Burgess in particular is because he was a valued pick so there was every reason for the team to start him. Big flag there for me. But I did notice him once last game so maybe he's improved idk.

I'm grasping at straws here basically with the safeties. Hoping that because I saw Juju Hughes break on a few underneath throws in preseason that maybe he's been overlooked. That does happen with the UDFA dudes.

rapp was a 2nd round pick.

burgess was a 3rd round pick.

and burgess was like a heat seeking missile out there. he's the first ram defender i've seen take kittle down without giving up any more ground.

after seeing scott miss so many tackles i have to wonder why burgess isn't out there.

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[TexasRam]

Re: Ramsey I don't think he's got the leadership fully down. He still has that shitty young player body language where he wants to show things weren't his fault. When you're calling the defense though you can't be that guy.

It's the old leadership adage about being the rock in the storm. You want people clinging to you. If you're the storm or helping the storm you're doing it wrong.

Good point and observation.

Ramsey being so highly tuned to passion/Emotion level 100 I am sure makes him the great player he is, but doesn’t work well in a leadership role when adversity hits.

He’s still young though at 27. Atill
Maturing so will be interesting to see if he can harness that passion

 

[MachS]

Yes Scott is a meathead just like Rapp. Like with Rapp I love his game too but I hate his coverage.

Burgess I have no belief in because he was beaten out by Rapp. And the reason I hold that against Burgess in particular is because he was a valued pick so there was every reason for the team to start him. Big flag there for me. But I did notice him once last game so maybe he's improved idk.

I'm grasping at straws here basically with the safeties. Hoping that because I saw Juju Hughes break on a few underneath throws in preseason that maybe he's been overlooked. That does happen with the UDFA dudes.

Bad safeties, bad corners outside of Ramsey. This just can't be a good defense with our personnel.

The secondary fell off a cliff. JJ leaving means Rapp had to see the field. That hurts us ever game. Troy Hill was lightyears better than DD. And Darius Williams turned into a chump this year. Plus Fuller looks extremely average without JJ. And that might be generous.

Throw in Reeder in coverage a lot of the time, and I dont know how we stop anyone. Maybe Morris is playing our corners 10+ yards off because if he didn't we would be a bottom 5 defense.

All the big contracts and lack of premium picks have caught up with us big time. Dallas had the #32 ranked defense last year, look how Diggs and Parsons have transformed that defense completely. They're not elite but they lead the league in takeaways. Thats the impact two great young players can have. We have to go bargain shopping in the draft and FA, and we wonder why our secondary is trash now.

The acquisition of Von Miller is a prime example of the mistakes we've made. Is he good still? Absolutely. But worth a 2nd + 3rd rounder on a one year deal? Hell no. Not when we can't utilize him due to our secondary being so bad. We need to cover better to allow our pass rush to get home. Also T Lewis has been inactive now for how many straight weeks? We trade our 1st and 2nd rounders away, and our 3rd round OLB cant even dress on game day. That pick should be starting across from Floyd on a rookie deal, and we should have our 2nd and 3rd rounders next year. Now we will lose Von or pay him a high salary, bench T Lewis (wasted pick) and still not have the secondary fixed. Burgess another high wasted pick that cant see the field. How does this happen?

Just a cluster fuck of epic proportions that we continue to compound and compound. Defensively we're actually in a terrible spot tbh if you can look at our situation objectively.

 

[oldnotdead]

Just saying, Fuller missed a whole lot of tackles Sunday. IMO Burgess should be playing. Safety isn't the problem. The weak ass scheme is the problem.

 

[OntarioRam]

Burgess looked good last night. Let's see what he has. He looked great pre-injury. The fact he is not starting I do not put much stock in. Long started over Rochell and Deayon. I don't trust Morris' talent evaluation. Fuller is still a big loss. Very good player.

 

[RhodyRams]

let's limit the conversation to Fuller and hope for the best

 

[1maGoh]

Yes Scott is a meathead just like Rapp. Like with Rapp I love his game too but I hate his coverage.

Burgess I have no belief in because he was beaten out by Rapp. And the reason I hold that against Burgess in particular is because he was a valued pick so there was every reason for the team to start him. Big flag there for me. But I did notice him once last game so maybe he's improved idk.

I'm grasping at straws here basically with the safeties. Hoping that because I saw Juju Hughes break on a few underneath throws in preseason that maybe he's been overlooked. That does happen with the UDFA dudes.

Rapp over Burgess goes back to Morris' MAD play philosophy, imo. He loves the idea of Rapp reading the play right, making the right decision, and laying a big hit on someone. I think it's blinded him to Rapp's actual execution. I think he's said in press conferences or interviews that sometimes he says stuff just to piss Rapp off and get him to go out and hit somebody. Not a great look, again just my opinion.

 

[12intheBox]

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