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If he plays the way he has when given the opportunity at LT, it's actually a bargain. The questions are if he can keep it up and whether he can stay healthy.Too much $$$ , but as I said in the Allen thread what else was available and at what cost?
Well we are discussing his value. Which is clearly lower on the market than starting LTs who were paid before him.The difference may be that some of us fans are taking Noteboom more at face value than projecting him as a top LT during these contract negotiations, which he really only aspires to be at this point in his career.
Well we are discussing his value. Which is clearly lower on the market than starting LTs who were paid before him.
I don't have any issue with fans overvaluing our own. I do it too time to time. But he basically got a prove-it contract because there was enough concern about his readiness around the league.
The contract tells us a story. Teams weren't high on Boom on the market and the Rams benefitted.
So for myself, as I process this it seems that the trend with the Rams and their OL FAs is keeping the guys they can lock down on a budget. They did the exact same thing with Hav, locking him up at a discount. Guys who get good offers in FA leave. That seems to be the model. Because they also extended Shelton on a bargain which was my favorite move so far.
Well.. the argument that he didn’t get top market value means that there wasn’t interest in him is silly to me. Darious Williams didn’t get too market value, but we know multiple teams had interest.Noteboom never reached free agency, so any speculation on his reaching or not reaching market value comes with no verification or evidence, ... unless you can provide some links as to why other teams were supposedly showing a lack of interest, ... again, it's just more speculation. Noteboom may very well appreciate living, working & winning a Super Bowl in L.A., and if so, he likely conveyed that message to his agent, all that matters to me is for the Rams and their fans to be happy that a fair arrangement came to fruition and that all sides are satisfied with the terms. jmo.
I’m still stoked about this. Great having Boom back
I don't have to prove anything. This is just the way I read the end result. Don't care if anyone agrees either.Noteboom never reached free agency, so any speculation on his reaching or not reaching market value comes with no verification or evidence, ... unless you can provide some links as to why other teams were supposedly showing a lack of interest, ...
Yea he always seems a little nervous. Kind of plays that way to. Hesitant and unsure at times. Really blessed with natural feet and balance however. Really refined his technique to a pro level as well behind Whitworth's tutelage.I will say, he is not the most charismatic guy ..not that it matters.
The difference may be that some of us fans are taking Noteboom more at face value than projecting him as a top LT during these contract negotiations, which he really only aspires to be at this point in his career. In 4 years Noteboom has had 1260 part-time total NFL snaps, Whitworth averaged 1000 snaps per year over his last 10 years, ... putting 'top LT's' in the same category with Noteboom is rather disingenuous. Also, Noteboom has suffered some well publicized injuries, although I believe all of them when playing out of position at LG or as the 6'th man in a 'jumbo' set.
The one thing I've always kept in mind with Boom is whether he has disappointed me during his playing time while often coming in off the bench cold, ... and he has not. Noteboom has only had 4 penalties in his 4 years here, and while he's still developing better run blocking skills, he's been excellent in pass-pro, his primary assignment.
Much the same can be said of Brian Allen when judging his value. His absences have also received a good deal of attention, and he again has had 4 penalties in total during his 1500 snaps. Both young players are receiving contracts based on past performance as well as future anticipation for continued development, they aren't returning with out-of-line contracts or being hyped as 'top' players in their positions, ... not yet anyway.
The Rams paid a fair price based on an assumption that these two players can carry us thru the next couple of years with the same success they have already presented in their short span with us, and in 2 or 3 years we'll be right back here having this discussion once again.
jmo.
Agree but do you see Alaric Jackson or Tremayne Anchrum or starting LG David Edwards being what you say the Rams need in a dependable backup?This was a must with Whit retiring but the Rams need a dependable backup to Noteboom too, they must protect Stafford at all cost.
They both know they'll get the best version of themselves by staying with the Rams and have the best chance to earn their full contracts AND, especially with Noteboom, get another big contract.After watching the Boom and Allen calls (over at therams.com) it appeared clear that both Noteboom and Allen really wanted to stay here. The major reason (from their own words) was the familiarity with our offense and scheme and how it gave them a great chance to succeed. Both being relatively non established players, it seems they valued maximizing their brand at this moment over potential short term bigger payday. Just my impression. Does this mean both had a real good idea how much more they could make in Free Agency? I don't know. I just know both wanted to stay here. It's probably a good move because they are both still growing and success now could lead to much bigger contracts later vs potentially declining and washing out on another team.