Jeff Fisher confident in getting O-line fixed/Wagoner

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LACHAMP46

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That'd be stupid and I'd lose faith in Fisher if we don't sign one guy. Forcing your hand in the draft to go need over BPA is a really dumb strategy and Fisher should be better than that.

Anyone even know how much cap room we have left?
As far as forcing his hand, I would hope it is moved by value...and talent...It's not a secret we need some serious infusion of offensive line talent...Many hope for a trade down to pick up another top 100 pick (2nd or 3rd rounder)....
As for cap space, a little birdy (dubs) stated around $2 million...I trust his figures...

http://ramsinperspective.com/salary-cap-summary/

http://ramsinperspective.com/rams-detailed-cap/
 

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Though I would like some top notch FA linemen on the roster already, I applaud their patience.
I highly doubt we will be worse at the position then last year (after the injuries), by the time trying camp starts.
 

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They'd probably still go BPA even if they have holes on the OL entering the draft. They (and most good GMs) don't see the draft the way fans and the media do. It's not a means to fill short term holes, it's a resource to get the best possible players for the long term future.

Can't agree. First, aren't short term holes actually long term holes if you don't fill them with a player that you'll have for four years? Second, I think the last labor agreement which made drafted players cheaper is shifting strategy towards what the baseball Cardinals do. You see it with running backs, where many teams plug in cheap kids rather than spend big money on a free agent star. You might call this filling short-term holes but IMO it's a smart strategy.
 

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They'd probably still go BPA even if they have holes on the OL entering the draft. They (and most good GMs) don't see the draft the way fans and the media do. It's not a means to fill short term holes, it's a resource to get the best possible players for the long term future.
Agree 100%
 

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As far as forcing his hand, I would hope it is moved by value...and talent...It's not a secret we need some serious infusion of offensive line talent...Many hope for a trade down to pick up another top 100 pick (2nd or 3rd rounder)....
As for cap space, a little birdy (dubs) stated around $2 million...I trust his figures...

http://ramsinperspective.com/salary-cap-summary/

http://ramsinperspective.com/rams-detailed-cap/
I wouldn't look at the actual cap numbers. While they seem to be completely accurate, the actual salary cap figure is very fluid and doesn't give the best indication of our ability to sign Free Agents.

Right now our cap room is a little under $9 mil as far as ability to sign players. But that doesn't mean we have to spend it all right now.
 

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Not a cap wiz myself, but $7 mill is taken out to account for amounts needed to sign upcoming rookie class....I THINK....
7 mil is taken out to account for the draft picks, practice squad, and extra 2 players that will count against the cap to make a 53 man roster. Right now only the top 51 contracts count towards the cap.
 

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Snead made it clear in an interview, just a couple days ago, That he "..prefers to go BPA and not be forced to go for need in his picks!" I Trust him and Fisher!!

I'm sure he prefers it, but if they get nobody in FA, they then have no choice but to dfaft for need...I see no way around that...
 

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I wouldn't look at the actual cap numbers. While they seem to be completely accurate, the actual salary cap figure is very fluid and doesn't give the best indication of our ability to sign Free Agents.

Right now our cap room is a little under $9 mil as far as ability to sign players. But that doesn't mean we have to spend it all right now.
So the 9 million include what's needed for the draft?
 

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Keep in mind that every player drafted knocks a player off of the salary cap list. Maybe not a full $7 million worth, but $4-5 million worth.
 

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So the 9 million include what's needed for the draft?
No, but you shouldn't worry to much about the cost to sign draft picks. Money can be moved around to accomadate the draft class if it is even needed to be. You are probably looking at 2.5 - 3.0 million in cap space needed for rookies. But again, money can be moved around and more importantly higher paid players like I.Pead could be cut. Givens could be cut. That alone could fund our 2015 draft class.
 

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It seems your numbers are similar to his..again I'll refer you to this link...

http://ramsinperspective.com/salary-cap-summary/
Yea, like I said, the link is very accurate and well formatted. I just don't think "Actual cap" space is very useful information since it doesn't give a very real look into our ability to sign free agents.

Posting that we only have $2mil is deceiving. But the link does a wonderful job of breaking everything down and defines everything very well. If this is a buddy of yours my only real recommendation would be to display a publish date somewhere on the page so I can know how up to date it is.

I also responded just to re-affirm what you posted about the $7mil being taken out. You said you weren't sure, I just wanted to re-assure you as well as any other poster looking at what you mentioned that it was in fact true.

Again, the link it a very accurate resource.
 

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rams haven't even been able to get Blalock or Wisniewski in for a visit....most agents want there players to visit bad teams hoping to drive up the market price....
Fishe,r "Barksdale played well at times" and "good draft for olinemen" coachspeak for Barksdale ain't that good and doubt we will can get any decent fa to sign here....there was a reason Detroit was willing to let Fairly walk even after losing Suh. Major bust and headache at Detroit.

Likely Reynolds was signed to be are starter at rg replacing Joseph. Rhaney and Jones will battle it out to be the center and we will draft a rt..probably TJ Clemmings.

I'm sure if the Rams wanted Blalock or Wisniewski in for a visit, they could set it up. But there's no reason to setup a visit before you're close to getting a deal hammered out. I have a feeling they're waiting for the money to be right before setting up visits.

As far as Fairley is concerned, was he a headache for Detroit? Yes. But he was also an extremely disruptive player that flashed the ability to be dominant at this level. It's all about motivation with Fairley.
 

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Jeff Fisher confident in getting O-line fixed
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...her-confident-in-getting-offensive-line-fixed

PHOENIX -- Perhaps the St. Louis Rams haven't showed the urgency that many would like when it comes to their holes on the offensive line, but that doesn't mean they aren't aware of what needs to be done over the next few weeks.

"Yeah, there's still some spots available, if you will," coach Jeff Fisher said Wednesday morning.

That's putting it mildly. As it stands, the Rams have just three offensive linemen -- left tackle Greg Robinson, guard Rodger Saffold and swingman Garrett Reynolds -- with any meaningful NFL game experience. And even out of those three, Robinson is entering his second year with plenty of work to do, Saffold has a lengthy injury history and is coming off surgery and Reynolds was brought in to provide depth.

So the Rams have room for starters at one guard spot, right tackle and center. There are some obvious and known solutions for the Rams that still remain on the free-agent market and Fisher hinted that business could pick back up after this week's owners meetings.

Heading up that list is right tackle Joe Barksdale. Fisher said discussions with Barksdale are on-going and he remains hopeful that something can get worked out. Barksdale was recently married and has been on his honeymoon so there might not have been a lot of urgency to get a deal done but Fisher pointed to prices early on that clearly exceeded what the Rams or any other team was willing to meet.

"I was a little surprised at their asking price initially," Fisher said. "I think things have settled down a little bit. We'd like to have Joe back. Joe played well at times, he had some outstanding games. He had some difficult matchups as well. But Joe knows us ... and I think it makes sense to get Joe back."

That coincides with what we heard in February when various league types estimated prices for Barksdale anywhere from as low as $4 million per year all the way up to $7 million per year. If that price was indeed on the high end, it's not much of a surprise that Barksdale is still available.

The same could probably be said for other free-agent options the Rams are still considering. Guard Justin Blalock and center Stefan Wisniewski remain available and the Rams have expressed at least some interest in both players. It's unlikely the Rams have the cap space or the inclination to sign all three but they could find a way to make two work if they wanted.

"There's still several free agents out there that we're in discussions with but we're looking toward the draft," Fisher said. "It's not one of those things we're going to panic about particularly because of who we've got lined up."

Fisher called this year's draft "outstanding" as far as the offensive line is concerned which might also offer another clue as to why they have not been in a rush to sign players that might exceed where they have them valued.

There are also some younger in-house options who could be in the mix though the Rams' confidence in those players might only be as real as how easily they can find an upgrade elsewhere.

At center, in particular, Fisher again offered an endorsement of sorts for Barrett Jones and Demetrius Rhaney. Jones has played a total of 22 snaps on offense in his first two seasons in the league and Rhaney sat out his rookie year after a knee injury in training camp.

"Barrett showed that he can play and we have confidence in Demetrius Rhaney," Fisher said. "We have Greg and Rodg. We've added Garrett so we've got depth and we're kind of excited about what direction we're headed."

Still, it would come as a surprise and be a major step in the wrong direction if the Rams don't add a legitimate starter or two on the offensive line before the draft.

"Well, it's either money or ideal fit," Fisher said. "There are some players out there that still have value at a number of positions. Once we get back from the meetings then things pick up."

I have to think that Fisher and Snead have a Plan (At least I hope so!) and I hope we see it soon!!!
 

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That'd be stupid and I'd lose faith in Fisher if we don't sign one guy. Forcing your hand in the draft to go need over BPA is a really dumb strategy and Fisher should be better than that.

Anyone even know how much cap room we have left?
If I only had a penny for every time you claim you will lose faith in Fisher I'd be rich
 

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rams haven't even been able to get Blalock or Wisniewski in for a visit....most agents want there players to visit bad teams hoping to drive up the market price....
Fishe,r "Barksdale played well at times" and "good draft for olinemen" coachspeak for Barksdale ain't that good and doubt we will can get any decent fa to sign here....there was a reason Detroit was willing to let Fairly walk even after losing Suh. Major bust and headache at Detroit.

Likely Reynolds was signed to be are starter at rg replacing Joseph. Rhaney and Jones will battle it out to be the center and we will draft a rt..probably TJ Clemmings.

Firstly, it's good to see you on this forum. I tire of wading through PD minutiae for solid football info.

Secondly, for someone who cites PFF frequently, you seem to have overlooked their data on Fairley. The following is their data from '12, '13, '14. Maybe his off field issues were bad, but his on field production was much better than average. And before we allude to extra attention to Suh, nobody playing next to Watt, Quinn, or Atkins matched Fairley's stats.

Thirdly, the reason any free agents remain at this juncture is due to financial expectations. Once the overpaying has subsided, it is AFTER the owners meetings that wise signings occur in today's market. Perhaps you were referring to other teams as "bad" to drive up the Rams' market price

Finally, are you really thehammer? I mean, he usually is better at spelling and evaluating whom the Rams will play at Center and the idea of Reynolds hired as a starter is both laughable and disturbing.... Just sayin'

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