Jaworski, Arians high on Eagles' Bradford

[dieterbrock]

So, I'm not sure why someone would suggest Kelly keep Shurmur away from Bradford.

It's called "sense of humor", maybe you ought to try it.
In the meantime....

 

[Rmfnlt]

No idea what you are talking about. I don't infer that Shurmer is a problem in any way shape or form.
Quite the opposite. I don't think he's a problem or a solution.
He's a placecard OC who doesn't get in the way.
His offenses have been terrible and in a figurative sense I want Bradford to be learning from Kelly, not regressing to the check down philosophy that shurmer installs

As for chow, it's not deflecting it just defies the logic that winning oroy on its own doesn't mean much.

I guess when I read your comment that hopefully Kelly tells Shurmur to stay the hell away from Bradford, I take that as inferring he's (Shurmur) a problem.

Just can't imagine Kelly feels that way. Like I said, Kelly seems the type of HC that - if things aren't going as he wants - he'll make the necessary changes.

Just going off that, I'd guess he's pretty happy with Shurmur. The two men seem to be good partners.

Really, who cares what you or I think of Shurmur. He's not part of the Rams any more... he's part of a team that is the third best in terms of points scored. If the Rams make the playoffs, it's a decent chance they might end up playing against that offense. While our defense ought to be outstanding, I'd rather they not play a team that averages near 30 points per game. So, I hope they bother (Kelly and Shurmur) falter in 2015.

Only downside to that is the impact on the conditional pick from the trade.

 

[Rmfnlt]

It's called "sense of humor", maybe you ought to try it.
In the meantime....

Light as a...

 

[dieterbrock]

Light as a...

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[Stranger]

Light as a...

Feathers aren't always "light"... watch this....

 

[MrMotes]

It's difficult to truly assess his roles as an OC.

In Cleveland, he was the HC, and we all know that it is much more than being an OC... getting pulled in many more directions.

Of course, he was not considered a success with the Rams by many fans, but you have to look at personnel too... those offenses were pretty devoid of talent. Was it that or the OC? Kind of what we debated a lot about Schottenheimer.

Now he's with Kelly and no one knows how much input he has. Like I said, I read some quotes (can't find them) from Kelly saying Shurmur has a lot of input. It can be argued both ways for sure, since none of us are in their meeting rooms and listen in on the headsets during games.

I don't necessarily want to come off as defending the guy. But IMO, that Philly offense runs well, in part, because Shurmur and Kelly work together.

It's not all Kelly, IMO.

So, I'm not sure why someone would suggest Kelly keep Shurmur away from Bradford.

I think it's pretty straight forward: Shurmur called the plays in St. Louis and Cleveland. It was his offense.

Chip Kelly calls the plays in Phili, it's Chip's offense in Phili.

Shurmur will probably get another chance to be the play caller somewhere. It will be interesting to see which direction he goes and how he does if that happens...

 

[Rmfnlt]

I think it's pretty straight forward: Shurmur called the plays in St. Louis and Cleveland. It was his offense.

Chip Kelly calls the plays in Phili, it's Chip's offense in Phili.

Shurmur will probably get another chance to be the play caller somewhere. It will be interesting to see which direction he goes and how he does if that happens...

Well, like I said, we'll never really know how much Shurmur contributes to the Philly offense. We can guess... but that's all it is... a guess.... stating it as fact or relying on some article (I've seen them go both ways) probably isn't indicative of what really happens.

Not sure he wasn't given input in St. Louis, either... much like the Fisher/Schottenheimer discussions that went on while Schottenheimer was here. Spags was obviously very conservative.

To me, the only place you can define Shurmur with is Cleveland and, like I said, as HC, you get torn in different directions. Doing a quick view of those rosters also tells me he had little to work with. But I think you lay the blame for output squarely on the coaches alone. So, we may not agree on whether it was the players or Shurmur... I'll take a guess and say you believe it was the latter.

Probably not going to agree on this one.

 

[DaveFan'51]

For all BS Arians talks he remembers well that they lost to Sam Bradford. If Bradford was healthy in 2013 and 2014 seasons, boy-o-boy.

And you can believe he's very happy he doesn't have to worry about facing Bradford twice a year anymore!

 

[ram007]

And you can believe he's very happy he doesn't have to worry about facing Bradford twice a year anymore!

I think so. what is your thought?

 

[DaveFan'51]

I think so. what is your thought?

I'm sure he was saying good things about Bradford only because he's no longer a division opponent!