If he can get our group of WR's performing adqeuately ---- that feat should really boost his career.
But how? What's the QB supposed to do? Throw it slower?I never like to use the ball bouncing off a receiver's hands for an INT as an excuse for anyone. A pick is a pick.
But how? What's the QB supposed to do? Throw it slower?
By those numbers the Rams only dropped 6 passes when Keenum was QB. Was it an issue of chemistry or was it an effort issue?
Yeah the difference was noticeable. Bradford has been plagued by it as well.or velocity.
There's a third answer, that these numbers aren't statistics -- "drops" is an opinion, not a fact, based on the definition and judgment of the one assigning the number. So for example here's the drop numbers by QB from Sportingcharts (I believe uses STATS, LLC data) that shows a more similar drops result for Keenum & Goff.By those numbers the Rams only dropped 6 passes when Keenum was QB. Was it an issue of chemistry or was it an effort issue?
Yeah, I actually go by sporting charts numbers as well, though I usually look at team drops but to see drops by QB is a better view. I just assumed everyone had the same numbers, I guess I was wrong. "Oh it wasn't just the WRs, it was everyone"There's a third answer, that these numbers aren't statistics -- "drops" is an opinion, not a fact, based on the definition and judgment of the one assigning the number. So for example here's the drop numbers by QB from Sportingcharts (I believe uses STATS, LLC data) that shows a more similar drops result for Keenum & Goff.
Also the sample sizes are really small so the margin of error has a huge effect -- e.g., subtract or add 1 "drop" opinion from Goff's number and it swings his "drop percentage" by 1 percent either way and he probably goes from the top to bottom.
Anyway, don't want to take away from the value of the discussion too much because it's clear to all Rams fans the WRs didn't do Goff any favors.
Yeah resist the assumptions with these subjective stats. Often companies don't even use the same definitions... PFF uses "could he get his hands on it and was it catchable", so not only do you have the subjective opinion on the WR's range but the added layer of "catchable ball" opinion. Meanwhile Stats, LLC, Elias and others probably use something more traditional like "if the receiver could have caught it with ordinary effort", whatever that means according to who's watching. Sadly no company uses the old coachspeak definition of "if it hits your hands you should catch it, dummy"...I just assumed everyone had the same numbers
I never like to use the ball bouncing off a receiver's hands for an INT as an excuse for anyone. A pick is a pick.
and here is the difference with some of the what the great QB's experience instead on 3rd downs (excluding Alex Smith) Smith).![]()
It doesn't help that he was the most pressured on 3rd downs. Stupid Rob Boras playcalling.
I never like to use the ball bouncing off a receiver's hands for an INT as an excuse for anyone. A pick is a pick.
He was the worst offender....highest drop %%%....and a bunch of his drops weren't considered drops.Tavon was an offender too but he brings a different dynamic.
D. Carr had the worst drop percentage....His receivers were the worst in the league...I haven't heard one excuse why his season wasn't better...however I truly don't know how any qb could have thrived in those conditions.
I don't care about drop %, those things all even out.D. Carr had the worst drop percentage....His receivers were the worst in the league...I haven't heard one excuse why his season wasn't better...