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JG can’t take the O on his back.
He’s too busy trying to stay off his flipping back.
Fix the line fix the team.
So tired of hearing the offensive line is source of all the problems ...
I'm sorry, coaches have to be able to adjust. McVay still wants to continually attack the field in the intermediate areas despite a lack of time to throw those routes.
Use a freakin' short passing game to set that stuff up. We have two very capable tight ends. I have an idea - how about run the ball out of the shotgun. We do this 4% of the time. 4%!
I watched teams attack our defense, which has had a strong pass rush for the last decade, with short passes over and over and over, with some success.
This offense is mind blowingly predictable. McVay needs a play caller to take over for him, so he can actually manage the team.
Question. Did you think McVay needed a play caller the past two years or just this season?
This is my point. Every single thing Goff does is magnified because everything looks so awful so he looks worse. Make no mistake, Goff isn't playing as well as we know he can. But holy shit, there is no way he can do much with what he's given with an inconsistent front, play calling and running game. Narratives have always been the story with Goff. He's never the reason why we win, but always the reason we lose. He was a bust his first year, but not a bust his second year because McVay did everything for him and called audibles into his ear before 15 seconds. Lol but if he turns it around or plays better next year, I wonder what excuse people will have then. Goff is literally bailing out everyone who trashes him, because they get to ignore all his amazing throws and magnify his awful ones. I want him to play better, but within reason. And right now there is nothing reasonable about what I've seen from the offensive line and play calling from McVay.Somebody help me out here... somewhere on ROD was a twitter post showing Corbett getting absolutely abused and tossed aside like a rag doll by a BACKUP Steeler lineman.
Does anyone recall seeing this?
My point is: again, I strongly disagree that the rest of this season should be considered a test of whether or not Goff can “step it up” or not. Goff is a pocket QB in a timing offense that requires him to progress through his reads. If the OL is so horrific that he can’t even do a 7-step drop with the time to go through progressions, then they have to eliminate a huge part of the playbook.
IMHO, the only way this season can be salvaged is in the unlikely event that the OL “steps it up.” The rest of the season is about the OL, it’s not about Goff.
So tired of hearing the offensive line is source of all the problems ...
I'm sorry, coaches have to be able to adjust. McVay still wants to continually attack the field in the intermediate areas despite a lack of time to throw those routes.
Use a freakin' short passing game to set that stuff up. We have two very capable tight ends. I have an idea - how about run the ball out of the shotgun. We do this 4% of the time. 4%!
I watched teams attack our defense, which has had a strong pass rush for the last decade, with short passes over and over and over, with some success.
This offense is mind blowingly predictable. McVay needs a play caller to take over for him, so he can actually manage the team.
Great point about Kirk Cousins.Goffs attitude isnt the problem.
Sorry some of you want a cheerleader/Brady meets Vick QB but I guess the unrealistic heart wants what the heart wants....
All I want is for a better O line and some better schematic adjustments.
I love our tough, talented young QB.
No amount of these threads are going to convince me that the problems I am seeing are on Goff.
He needs to keep getting better. If he survives, he will.
Anybody who has lived and died with this team for longer than 3 seasons knows that when you FINALLY find a tough, talented passer with a #1 arm, you don't panic and try to start a stupid fucking movement to bang the drums for a rebuild.
Sorry, this season is hard enough to watch but reading about it is even worse.
A few weeks ago Kirk Cousins was nearly benched. But I guess some of y'all think he would be an improvement over Goff because he is playing better RIGHT NOW and Goff sucks because he can't "put the team on his back" and win on his own with no line, no run threat and no #1 WR and end zone threat. Yeah makes perfect sense.
Great points on McVay and needing to adapt.This is my point. Every single thing Goff does is magnified because everything looks so awful so he looks worse. Make no mistake, Goff isn't playing as well as we know he can. But holy shit, there is no way he can do much with what he's given with an inconsistent front, play calling and running game. Narratives have always been the story with Goff. He's never the reason why we win, but always the reason we lose. He was a bust his first year, but not a bust his second year because McVay did everything for him and called audibles into his ear before 15 seconds. Lol but if he turns it around or plays better next year, I wonder what excuse people will have then. Goff is literally bailing out everyone who trashes him, because they get to ignore all his amazing throws and magnify his awful ones. I want him to play better, but within reason. And right now there is nothing reasonable about what I've seen from the offensive line and play calling from McVay.
This, 100% so f*cking much. Don't get me wrong, I love our head coach, and I disagree we need someone making our play calls other than himself. But my lord, I literally watched Seattle do what we have refused to do against the Niners. Misdirection, changing the launch point, roll outs, quick throws and running the ball within reason. We all know Goff can make those intermediate throws, but its no secret he's not great under pressure. So giving a hostile work environment is guaranteed to make him look a lot worse than he actually is. We do not have the personnel to run the current offense, we screwed up. So we have to adapt. This next game is going to be very telling if McVay goes out there and completely wets the bed again. Again! Goff needs to stop missing guys for sure. But McVay needs to do a better job giving him somewhere to go with the ball quick rather than waiting for intermediate routes to develop.
I read an article once, and o believe it was here, that another coach said McVay is not a great play designer but he is a great play optimizer. He takes other people's plays and makes them better. If that's true, then now that people know those plays he needs new material but he can't generate it alone. If that was true he'd be stuck, which is what we do see now.Great points on McVay and needing to adapt.
I have quite literally NEVER posted anything critical of Mr. Boy Wonder Franchise Savior Photographic Memory Supermodel Shagger McVay.
However...
Even I gotta admit I’ve been disappointed with his play calling recently. OK, so our OL sucks now. Where is the game plan that uses (as you said) rollouts, quick passes, misdirection screens, and emphasis on the run? What happened to McVay’s ability to adapt???
Exactly why I love Phillip River. Goff is the complete opposite of him. I’m s quite frustrating to me as a Ram fan but I guess I have to live with it.For me, one of the things I wish Goff would do is play with fire in his belly. Be more of a vocal leader. He's so boring. I swear sometimes players put forth great effort so they will be spoken of as "even keeled" or "under control and never rattled" ...
Jeez man! Get out there and show some damn emotion! Get mad. Get excited. Get pissed off sometimes. Don't be "it's all business" ... just enjoy the game and kick some butt.
In a nut shell, I'm never excited to see him play. His low key demeanor even when he makes some stupid play that hurts the Rams (strip sacks, throwing into quadruple coverage) .... bothers me. At least get pissed when you continually make the same mistake.
Show some emotion out there! There's nothing quite as fun as having a QB that cares and leads by showing he cares.
Great points on McVay and needing to adapt.
I have quite literally NEVER posted anything critical of Mr. Boy Wonder Franchise Savior Photographic Memory Supermodel Shagger McVay.
However...
Even I gotta admit I’ve been disappointed with his play calling recently. OK, so our OL sucks now. Where is the game plan that uses (as you said) rollouts, quick passes, misdirection screens, and emphasis on the run? What happened to McVay’s ability to adapt???
If your analysis is correct the Rams will eventually hit rock bottom and McVay will be fired.I read an article once, and o believe it was here, that another coach said McVay is not a great play designer but he is a great play optimizer. He takes other people's plays and makes them better. If that's true, then now that people know those plays he needs new material but he can't generate it alone. If that was true he'd be stuck, which is what we do see now.
Or he could learn. Might take a while, but he could learn. In addition, he could bring in someone to generate me material for him to work off of. Poach someone from Andy Reid's staff and figure out how they build that culture of new play creation. Bring in a regular OC that knows how to run a regular offense and marry that to his ability to see counter patterns. It's not like he hasn't been trying to bring in New people on offense. He's just been turned down by a few.If your analysis is correct the Rams will eventually hit rock bottom and McVay will be fired.