Jalen Ramsey watch party

[den-the-coach]

Looks like somebody has been reading ROD:
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Jake lives about 15 minutes from me so I’ll allow it.

 

[dang]

Yup, I dont know how there can be any confusion, like you said it's been repeated several times.
What is complicated is how the option bonus, and contract structure determine the cap hit in 2025

Well my friend let me be brutally honest. Whenever the topic of how much Ramsey would cost a team trading for him, you seem to emphasize the $1.255m salary he would be due as if that is all a team would be saddled with. So I’m going with a $20m 2025 price tag unless the Fins eat s good chunk of that $19m bonus.

 

[dieterbrock]

Well my friend let me be brutally honest. Whenever the topic of how much Ramsey would cost a team trading for him, you seem to emphasize the $1.255m salary he would be due as if that is all a team would be saddled with. So I’m going with a $20m 2025 price tag unless the Fins eat s good chunk of that $19m bonus.

Well that’s utterly false, so either you haven’t read anything I’ve posted or are just trying to be argumentative.
I’ve only brought up the salary in response to folks asking about it.
I’ve broken down the contract many times in this thread and choosing to lump the salary and option bonus in one bucket is just lazy at best, ignorant at worst.

 

[dieterbrock]

His salary for '25 is only 1.25 mill
He is set to receive an "option bonus" of 19 mill, which I believe is the hangup in a trade scenario
The contract calls for (non guaranteed) option bonus of 8 & 9 mill in '26 & '27
In the current contract they are pro-rating the option bonus over 7 years, 4 contract & 3 void
But when a player is traded the void years are wiped out and the team has to take the hit on future dead money
So I dont know how that affects the contract, because it is a little complicated. It's not so simple as to paying 5 mill of a 10 mill salary.
And again, Miami does not have to trade him. They arent obligated to do so just because he wants out

Just quoting as to not have to type again.
The option bonus and contract format is complicated and makes his cap number hard to determine.

 

[Flipper]

Just quoting as to not have to type again.
The option bonus and contract format is complicated and makes his cap number hard to determine.

Not to be argumentative, but it is not that complicated.

The bonus can and usually is prorated 5 years. Yes, it doesn’t have to be, but it almost always is. If that is the case, the $19M divided by 5 gives 3.8 and add the 1.255 and you have a $5M cap hit for an acquiring team that prorates the bonus the maximum.

and when people are trying to figure out shared payments between rams/dolphins, the $20M round number is fine, because that is what would be shared in some capacity.

 

[dieterbrock]

Not to be argumentative, but it is not that complicated.

The bonus can and usually is prorated 5 years. Yes, it doesn’t have to be, but it almost always is. If that is the case, the $19M divided by 5 gives 3.8 and add the 1.255 and you have a $5M cap hit for an acquiring team that prorates the bonus the maximum.

and when people are trying to figure out shared payments between rams/dolphins, the $20M round number is fine, because that is what would be shared in some capacity.

That’s not true though. You inherit the contract
Miami is paying a pro-rate on 35 mill of option bonuses
The Rams inherit the contract but not the void years
It is complicated

 

[Flipper]

That’s not true though. You inherit the contract
Miami is paying a pro-rate on 35 mill of option bonuses
The Rams inherit the contract but not the void years
It is complicated

Not at all. All roster, restructure, signing, and option bonuses already paid belong entirely to Miami. that is why the June 1st date was important because it allows them to split the catch ups to next season.

a new team is only responsible for unpaid bonuses and salaries and they can choose how to prorate them.

you may or may not take my word for it, but for other readers, that is how it works and it is very straight forward.

 

[Merlin]

Jake's my illegitimate love child lives about 15 minutes from me so I’ll allow it.

FIFY.

 

[snackdaddy]

Jake lives about 15 minutes from me so I’ll allow it.

Someone should tell him a diet consisting of donuts and tater tots are unhealthy.

 

[den-the-coach]

Someone should tell him a diet consisting of donuts and tater tots are unhealthy.

 

[den-the-coach]

FIFY.

You Seamen are all alike.