Jalen Ramsey traded to Pittsburgh

[David Ray]

Milliseconds vs seconds - it still happened AFTER Ramsey looked back - saw Donald wrapping up Burrow and then falling down.

No matter how you put it - it still happened after.

And that is what people are agreeing with me. Not the milliseconds vs seconds bullcrap.

In this picture it is fuzzy but in full speed shows Ramsey looking back. But he was still on his guy at this point.

And this picture shows Donald wrapping up Burrow. Jalen then fell. Milliseconds after but still after Donald was wrapping up.

And that is my final point on this.

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Yeah, I can hear scouts evaluating a prospect now.
Scout 1: "What did you time him in the forty?"
Scout 2: "4.35"
Scout 1: "Yeah, I think my stopwatch is busted. I had him at 5.55."
Scout 2: "Not much difference anyway. What, 1.20 seconds? No big deal."
Scout 1: "What about his vertical?"
Scout 2: "37.5".
Scout 1: "I think I measured 39.0 but I lost my notes on that".
Scout 2: "Oh ... good job".

 

[Tano]

Yeah, I can hear scouts evaluating a prospect now.
Scout 1: "What did you time him in the forty?"
Scout 2: "4.35"
Scout 1: "Yeah, I think my stopwatch is busted. I had him at 5.55."
Scout 2: "Not much difference anyway. What, 1.20 seconds? No big deal."
Scout 1: "What about his vertical?"
Scout 2: "37.5".
Scout 1: "I think I measured 39.0 but I lost my notes on that".
Scout 2: "Oh ... good job".

And my entire complete point is that it doesn't matter that it happened milliseconds after he looked back.

Donald had Burrow - Ramsey saw Donald have Burrow - Ramsey fell down. My belief is that Ramsey got so excited he lost his footing.

You can believe whatever you want.

It still happened after Ramsey looked back. And you're trying to come up with bullshit info that has NOTHING WHATSOVER with the fact that Ramsey fell down AFTER he saw Donald had Burrow.

And that is 100% my point. It happened after. The amount of time does not come into play whatsoever.

The only difference between you and me is that you believe Ramsey would have fallen anyway and I don't.

Fine. Believe what you want. It is clear we are always going to disagree on this subject.

But I will always respond to people saying he fell and would have given up a big play with I don't think so.

 

[David Ray]

And my entire complete point is that it doesn't matter that it happened milliseconds after he looked back.

Donald had Burrow - Ramsey saw Donald have Burrow - Ramsey fell down. My belief is that Ramsey got so excited he lost his footing.

You can believe whatever you want.

It still happened after Ramsey looked back. And you're trying to come up with bullshit info that has NOTHING WHATSOVER with the fact that Ramsey fell down AFTER he saw Donald had Burrow.

And that is 100% my point. It happened after. The amount of time does not come into play whatsoever.

Ramsey fell down and your blood pressure has gone up. I posted another vid on this thread that shows he falls down a lot. Let it go. He's the enemy now. It doesn't matter that his piss poor pass coverage could have blown the Super Bowl if AD hadn't saved the day. AD came through and saved the day. That's because AD is legit and, in the 2021 post season, Ramsey, in a lot of instances, wasn't worth spit.

 

[Tano]

Ramsey fell down and your blood pressure has gone up. I posted another vid on this thread that shows he falls down a lot. Let it go. He's the enemy now. It doesn't matter that his piss poor pass coverage could have blown the Super Bowl if AD hadn't saved the day. AD came through and saved the day. That's because AD is legit and, in the 2021 post season, Ramsey, in a lot of instances, wasn't worth spit.

Thing is - I don't really give a crap about Ramsey. He did get beat a lot. But I just have to disagree on that one play. He didn't get beat from what I saw and I think people should stop saying with 100% certainty that if Donald didn't get to the QB that Ramsey would have fallen down and lose the game for us. That just annoys me because we really do not know.

To be honest, both of us don't know with 100% certainty if he would have stayed up or fallen. All we do know is that Ramsey fell after looking back and seeing Donald have Burrow in his grasp. And that's all I am saying here.

Now if you had said, Ramsey MAY have fallen anyway, then I wouldn't have an argument against you. I would say yes it is possible but my belief is he got excited after seeing Donald grab Burrow and tripped and fell. And we will never know who is right unless Ramsey comes out and say one or the other.

On that point, has anyone seen anything where someone has asked Ramsey about that play and falling down. Because I haven't and would actually like to know.

 

[sloramfan]

i jumped about 4 pages to the last page...

did i miss something?...

go rams

slo

p.s. no ramsey...no big deal...

 

[RamBradford85]

Great rams got saved from they selfs… they should have never been in on this trade…

 

[PARAM]

It still happened after Ramsey looked back. And you're trying to come up with bullshit info that has NOTHING WHATSOVER with the fact that Ramsey fell down AFTER he saw Donald had Burrow.

And that is 100% my point. It happened after. The amount of time does not come into play whatsoever.

I agree Ramsey fell down as Donald was spinning Burrow around. I couldn't say he did it intentionally (didn't look like that to me; looked like the result of contact with Chase) but let's say it was intentional. From my point of view, even if Ramsey doesn't fall down, Chase beats him for two reasons. He was behind him and he's much faster than Ramsey. But of course a successful throw from Burrow can't be assumed. Bottom line is this....it didn't happen; we won; and Ramsey is not a Ram.

 

[majrleaged]

The rams CBs are small and lite and lack toughnes that Ramsey has in spades. He would have made a big difference.

 

[PARAM]

The rams CBs are small and lite and lack toughnes that Ramsey has in spades. He would have made a big difference.

Maybe, maybe not. He will be 31 in October. He is aggressive and has a toughness about him. But we still have some size back there.

Ramsey; 6'1" 208

Spoon; 6'2" 195
Josh Wallace; 6'0 189
Kendrick; 6'0" 199 --- he may be one of our toughest CBs vs the run but he also might not even make the squad
AJ Green; 6'2" 198 --- another we don't know if he'll make the squad
Lake; 6'1" 196 ..... slot or safety

Maybe after cuts we'll have a relatively small CB group, maybe we won't. Maybe safties Kinchens, McCollough and Curl will be the hitters we lack at CB.

There's always something to be concerned about. Despite his size and toughness Ramsey was also a gambler who got beat more than a few times. And it would be logical to expect that to increase the older (and slower) he gets.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

The rams CBs are small and lite and lack toughnes that Ramsey has in spades. He would have made a big difference.

You're correct (Rams also agreed as they were in on trading for him) however there are those that hate on Ramsey like he's a scrub which is hilarious as hell. He'd instantly be our CB1 by a mile if we somehow got him. Oh well, guess it wasn't meant to be.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Ramsey was chasing the neighbors dog out of his yard because it was threatening the mailman.
The dog was very fast, Ramsey got close then lost his balance and fell. He stood up, looked around and blamed the mailman.

 

[PARAM]

You're correct (Rams also agreed as they were in on trading for him) however there are those that hate on Ramsey like he's a scrub which is hilarious as hell. He'd instantly be our CB1 by a mile if we somehow got him. Oh well, guess it wasn't meant to be.

Has a reliable source shown the Rams were "in" on trading for him? Or were they "in" if Miami took on 80% of the money? Or were "in" on offering Miami something they wouldn't accept and wait to see if they released him?

Even McVay's comments on the situation pointed to not much of an attempt to obtain him..... "yeah, a great player we'd love to have but the obstacles (read: money) makes it very difficult".

No hate. Great player. Greater cost. Let's be honest. It's not as if he's Darrelle Revis or Aeneas Williams in their prime.

 

[Tano]

Ramsey was chasing the neighbors dog out of his yard because it was threatening the mailman.
The dog was very fast, Ramsey got close then lost his balance and fell. He stood up, looked around and blamed the mailman.

Okay that was funny

 

[majrleaged]

Maybe, maybe not. He will be 31 in October. He is aggressive and has a toughness about him. But we still have some size back there.

Ramsey; 6'1" 208

Spoon; 6'2" 195
Josh Wallace; 6'0 189
Kendrick; 6'0" 199 --- he may be one of our toughest CBs vs the run but he also might not even make the squad
AJ Green; 6'2" 198 --- another we don't know if he'll make the squad
Lake; 6'1" 196 ..... slot or safety

Maybe after cuts we'll have a relatively small CB group, maybe we won't. Maybe safties Kinchens, McCollough and Curl will be the hitters we lack at CB.

There's always something to be concerned about. Despite his size and toughness Ramsey was also a gambler who got beat more than a few times. And it would be logical to expect that to increase the older (and slower) he gets.

I don't have a problem with the Rams not making the trade. He was pricey, but Williams and Durant, 2 of our top 3 corners are small, plus Forbes who everyone is hoping can get on the field is lite and a terrible tackler. Lake is a safety. Kendrick is a liability. I thought Wallace was playing safety.

I stand by my statement that the Rams CB room is small and could have used Ramsey's toughness.

 

[muggmeister]

I'm glad as fuck we didn't trade for Ramsey. The amount of money owed would have impacted our ability ro resign our up and coming stars. Puka, Kobie, Avila, Young could all be facing extensions next year. I wouldn't replace any one of them with an up in age CB who still thinks he is the greatest. We may have preserved our future with the Steelers rolling in and saving our ass.

 

[den-the-coach]

Ramsey's Hair when the Gales of November Come Early.

 

[Loyal]

Ramsey's Hair when the Gales of November Come Early.
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but only if they don't make Whitefish Bay...

 

[Merlin]

Feels like the key to this secondary is that field side responsibility with the corners. Ramsey wouldn't have moved that bar much.

Durant probably is up against Forbes in camp for it and the Rams like the look for whatever reason. Would have been nice to add a young corner with ability to man up without being terrible in tackling, but I get it. Maybe one of these guys locks that job up and if so this defense should be very good.

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm glad as fuck we didn't trade for Ramsey. The amount of money owed would have impacted our ability ro resign our up and coming stars. Puka, Kobie, Avila, Young could all be facing extensions next year. I wouldn't replace any one of them with an up in age CB who still thinks he is the greatest. We may have preserved our future with the Steelers rolling in and saving our ass.

Well, Ramsey doesnt have any guaranteed money left on the deal so there's a good possibility he's a FA next year and this all gets going again!!

 

[Jacobarch]

Well, Ramsey doesnt have any guaranteed money left on the deal so there's a good possibility he's a FA next year and this all gets going again!!

I hope not. Dude is an average corner at this point