Is this Cooper Kupp's last season with the Rams?

[Corbin]

Let me start this out stating I love me some Cooper Kupp. Guy is a class act and has been a dominate force on the field and solid for us many years. Unfortunately, as happens with all players father time is undefeated and when he comes for you it's that time.


It seems like the injury bug has caught up with Cooper and he's changed as a player and route runner unfortunately. He still has his valuable knowledge however and can be an important part of this post season.

However, as our FO has proven they are pretty efficient at observing and changing things up pretty fast.

Cooper is due 29.7 mill against the cap in 2025 and 2026 27.3.

If we cut him pre 2025 we gain 7.5 mill on the cap with 22.25 mill dead money.
Trade pre 6/1 we gain 12.5 mill and get 17.2 dead cap.
The trade is what I'm more in favor of as it helps with the cap a lot more.

The question is what would he be worth? Especially to someone like a young QB in New England that has the cap or in Carolina?
Hell I'd take a 6th rounder to move him as Snead shows he can do something with 6ths.

What say you?

 

[Tumak61]

I think Kupp retires after this season.

 

[Rams8821]

He retires after the season with winning 2 SB rings in LA....

 

[Ellard80]

doubt it.

If had played 16-17 games his stats would have translated to over 1000 yards and 12 ish TD.s

He certainly has lost a step - but not retirement level.

 

[Corbin]

doubt it.

If had played 16-17 games his stats would have translated to over 1000 yards and 12 ish TD.s

He certainly has lost a step - but not retirement level.

Not sure how you did that math to figure out over a 1000 yards and 12ish Tds?

Assuming he started 16 games like the rest of the starters and
Dividing his 12 games into 1/3's (236yds) per quarter and adding one 1/3 of those yards to make a full 16 game season that translates to
Same with his 6 TD's and.....

946 yards and 8 TD's as a projection. Doesn't look as nice does it?

And since he's come back from his last injury he noticeably looks different for a 27-30 million dollar WR.

Stating all this after I said to the naysayers while he was injured he will be fine.

He doesn't have the ability to accelerate and/or separate on contested catches anymore since he's been back. That's noticeable as regardless if he's getting the ball I generally watch him to see what he was doing on any given play.

 

[OldSchool]

Wouldn't shock me if he retired. He's earned whatever he wants to do next.

 

[AZRams]

Wouldn't shock me if he retired. He's earned whatever he wants to do next.

Get him ready to become the WR coach at some point in the future...

 

[Ellard80]

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Not sure how you did that math to figure out over a 1000 yards and 12ish Tds?

Assuming he started 16 games like the rest of the starters and
Dividing his 12 games into 1/3's (236yds) per quarter and adding one 1/3 of those yards to make a full 16 game season that translates to
Same with his 6 TD's and.....

946 yards and 8 TD's as a projection. Doesn't look as nice does it?

And since he's come back from his last injury he noticeably looks different for a 27-30 million dollar WR.

Stating all this after I said to the naysayers while he was injured he will be fine.

He doesn't have the ability to accelerate and/or separate on contested catches anymore since he's been back. That's noticeable as regardless if he's getting the ball I generally watch him to see what he was doing on any given play.

Well yeah if you calculate for 16 games instead.

For 17 games he would be 1002 yards and 10 tds.

If you look at his career stats - realy not that much different then most of his seasons.


I do think he is declining but to the point of retirement? Not yet.


I'd like to see him and nacua actually play a full seasosn together.

 

[Noregar]

Lets see how he does in the playoffs first. McVay could have been saving Cooper some for the playoff run. Not ready to write him off just yet.

 

[Corbin]

Well yeah if you calculate for 16 games instead.

For 17 games he would be 1002 yards and 10 tds.

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If you look at his career stats - realy not that much different then most of his seasons.


I do think he is declining but to the point of retirement? Not yet.


I'd like to see him and nacua actually play a full seasosn together.

He wouldn’t have played 17 games as all the starters were rested week 18 though so that’s a moot point.

I hate to even think about all this tbh.

I low key want us to cut his pay down to the minimum of what is dead money anyway and keep him, but doubt we do that. Kupp is a valuable asset in the WR room, not just for teaching but he lives it out in his play and style. Guy is smart asf and can read the D and find the holes.

I'm just starting to see him not here next year and I’m honestly sad.

 

[Ram Ts]

So much depends on what Kupp wants to do. Maybe he wants to retire and focus on building a family.

If he wants to keep playing 1-2+ years, then I’d restructure his deal to a more reasonable two year deal with some top level incentives (in case he gets back to previous levels).

Then bring him into the staff as WR coach or an offensive assistant - ultimately taking over for McVay in 7-10 years after multiple more SB wins.

 

[RamFanWA]

Not many guys come out of Washington - especially on the east side. So when Kupp was drafted, I was quite excited. More so, to also witness how his career has gone - and his story leading up to it all is awesome.

Rams also picked up Samson Ebukam from EWU that same year. Both have good stories and both are decent players.

Father time hasn't been defeated yet, unfortunately.....

 

[Ellard80]

He wouldn’t have played 17 games as all the starters were rested week 18 though so that’s a moot point.

I hate to even think about all this tbh.

I low key want us to cut his pay down to the minimum of what is dead money anyway and keep him, but doubt we do that. Kupp is a valuable asset in the WR room, not just for teaching but he lives it out in his play and style. Guy is smart asf and can read the D and find the holes.

I'm just starting to see him not here next year and I’m honestly sad.

Not really a moot point - your stats being less because you sat out a game because your team clinched can't be used to prove your stats declined.

 

[0311rams]

What ever helps the salary cap. He could stay or go.

 

[Corbin]

Not really a moot point - your stats being less because you sat out a game because your team clinched can't be used to prove your stats declined.

If he wasn't going to play in the game regardless why would you include the 17th game to inflate his numbers?
Other than trying to prove a point it makes zero sense.
If he would have been healthy all season he would have played only 16 games.

 

[DzRams]

Well yeah if you calculate for 16 games instead.

For 17 games he would be 1002 yards and 10 tds.

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If you look at his career stats - realy not that much different then most of his seasons.


I do think he is declining but to the point of retirement? Not yet.


I'd like to see him and nacua actually play a full seasosn together.

In 12 games this year, he's averaged 59 yards and .5 a TD per game.

If you extrapolate over 17 games, I get 1005 yards and 8.5 TDs.

That's a pretty steep fall from even 2022 which projects to 1533 yards and 11 TDs over 17 games.

As far as Kupp and Nacua playing a full season together, we have to consider the possibility that that will never happen because they get injured a lot.

Kupp has missed 5 or more games three seasons in a row now.

I don't think he retires this year. I also feel it's too soon to know what the Rams will do. If they get bounced in game 1 with a subpar performance from the offense, I think major changes will be in order including Kupp being traded. If they go far with the offense doing well, I see Kupp playing another year in LA.

 

[Merlin]

That last game he looked fucking terrible man. He was dropping passes. He looked sluggish. I don't know what his deal is but right now he's a totally different dude than the guy he was early last season. It seems like he never fully came back from that injury last year. Because he wasn't fully himself early this season either, which is why I suspect the Rams were trying to move him.

By the way I always say that I never bet against Kupp. And I'm not gonna do that. But time is undefeated.

 

[gogoat1]

I would never in a million years take a 6th rounder for him.
Let him play it out and retire as being only a LA RAM !.

 

[Loyal]

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Not sure how you did that math to figure out over a 1000 yards and 12ish Tds?

Assuming he started 16 games like the rest of the starters and
Dividing his 12 games into 1/3's (236yds) per quarter and adding one 1/3 of those yards to make a full 16 game season that translates to
Same with his 6 TD's and.....

946 yards and 8 TD's as a projection. Doesn't look as nice does it?

And since he's come back from his last injury he noticeably looks different for a 27-30 million dollar WR.

Stating all this after I said to the naysayers while he was injured he will be fine.

He doesn't have the ability to accelerate and/or separate on contested catches anymore since he's been back. That's noticeable as regardless if he's getting the ball I generally watch him to see what he was doing on any given play.

I'm glad my boi Corbin has my back at ROD. Get that Super Bowl MVP trophy shined up and ready to go!

 

[Ellard80]

If he wasn't going to play in the game regardless why would you include the 17th game to inflate his numbers?
Other than trying to prove a point it makes zero sense.
If he would have been healthy all season he would have played only 16 games.

So would dan Marino not have thrown for more yards in 1984 if he had played one more game?

Would Saquon Barkley have broken Dickerson's record if he played on more game?

This isn't a huge deal but I think the point is kind of obvious. It's a projection.

Like Stafford hasn't played the last two years the last game... should that be an indication of his statistical decline?