Is this a restructure

[Dxmissile]

And yet, when he had to make the throws in the NFCC, he made them.

Yes he did but you steady trying to act like it was just him. As soon as a guy isn’t a ram anymore it’s like his contributions never happened calling him Salty and washed up when he contributed more to the offense than anyone. It’s asinine it hasn’t even been 24 hrs yet!!

 

[thirteen28]

Yes he did but you steady trying to act like it was just him. As soon as a guy isn’t a ram anymore it’s like his contributions never happened calling him Salty and washed up when he contributed more to the offense than anyone. It’s asinine it hasn’t even been 24 hrs yet!!

Who said Gurley's contributions didn't count? But it's more than correct to point out that he wasn't much help in the NFCC against the Saints. That game ended up being put on Goff's shoulders and he came through, and you want to complain about his playoff stats? I could give a shit about his stats when he makes the throws that count and leads the team to a win in a hostile, pressure-packed situation such as that. Calling him out for his playoff stats is just trying to diminish what he did in that game.

 

[Dxmissile]

Who said Gurley's contributions didn't count? But it's more than correct to point out that he wasn't much help in the NFCC against the Saints. That game ended up being put on Goff's shoulders and he came through, and you want to complain about his playoff stats? I could give a shit about his stats when he makes the throws that count and leads the team to a win in a hostile, pressure-packed situation such as that. Calling him out for his playoff stats is just trying to diminish what he did in that game.

You’re talking 1 game I’m talking about an entire season!! You’re the one diminishing what Gurley has done that’s the only reason I responded..! Goff played fantastic that game and against the Chiefs and I’m hoping for more games like that from him because we are gonna need it.

 

[thirteen28]

You’re talking 1 game I’m talking about an entire season!! You’re the one diminishing what Gurley has done that’s the only reason I responded..! Goff played fantastic that game and against the Chiefs and I’m hoping for more games like that from him because we are gonna need it.

Goff played a lot of fantastic games in both 2017 and 2018. Give him time to throw and he usually does.

 

[8to12]

But we got a 1st round bye and past the Cowboys.

Yes, Gurley helped during the season. I'm not trying to take that away. But, once the Rams got to the Playoff game with the Cowboys, Anderson carried 23 times for 123 yds and two TD's. Again, showing how, with the O-line providing all the work, any Ram RB gets 5 yards upfield before contact.

 

[Corbin]

You’re talking 1 game I’m talking about an entire season!! You’re the one diminishing what Gurley has done that’s the only reason I responded..! Goff played fantastic that game and against the Chiefs and I’m hoping for more games like that from him because we are gonna need it.

No point talking sense to him. He’s unreasonable and always brings up ONE game to prove his point. Good thing the defense Rams defense didn’t play that game.

One Question.

How clutch was Goff in the game after the NFCCG?

And let the excuses flow like my tears did that night..

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

If I understand this correctly, a restructuring of Goff's contract would stretch the signing bonus out over the remaining years of his contract. Making him more difficult to trade. By paying the full bonus now, his contract is smaller from here on out. So if they wanted to trade him next year it will be much easier.

The other possibility is if the restructured, then Goff would cost more against the cap in coming years. So, by not doing a restructure, the Rams will have more cap room in the next few years and are going to be spending in free agency next year or he year after.


With player contracts escalating greatly each year, it makes more sense to pay up front if you can manage it. I expect Ramsey will get a front loaded deal too.

 

[JonRam99]

Ya that makes more sense, thanks @Elmgrovegnome

 

[Robert]

the owners aren't gonna give the players more money. they get a percentage of the gross income and that's it. the owners aren't giving qbs any more of their money.

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They are giving them their money either way way you look at it whether it effects the cap or not. If there was a general rule where qb’s salaries had a max of 15 million effect on the cap no matter what they signed their contract for it would help a lot of teams stay more competitive. Owners know if they can place a super bowl caliber team on the field they will make money back in sales. No one wants to be a fan of the shitty bengals

 

[kurtfaulk]

They are giving them their money either way way you look at it whether it effects the cap or not. If there was a general rule where qb’s salaries had a max of 15 million effect on the cap no matter what they signed their contract for it would help a lot of teams stay more competitive. Owners know if they can place a super bowl caliber team on the field they will make money back in sales. No one wants to be a fan of the shitty bengals

the players get a split of the earnings.

the salary cap for each team is determined from that split being divided by 32.

if the qbs are exempt from the cap where is the money coming from?

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[Robert]

the players get a split of the earnings.

the salary cap for each team is determined from that split being divided by 32.

if the qbs are exempt from the cap where is the money coming from?

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I wouldn’t say exempt, just have a reduced cap number. If the cap is 190 million and Goff is resigned to a 32 million a year contract the max it can affect the cap is 20 million a year. Teams can go over the cap with the remaining amount. The owner would have to pay the difference out of his share if he chooses to do so. Someone like maholmes could ask for 40 million a year, that’s insane

 

[Zaphod]

You don’t need all of these additional rules and exceptions. NFL teams are in business to make money, and they’ll budget towards an expected profit or sell and move their team to a market that will achieve their goals. The stated value of the cap being that it increases parity for smaller markets, and benefits the product as a whole. In reality, the quarterback’s value to the team just doesn’t exceed such a great percentage of the cap relative to the other players, and teams or owners will suffer for that encouraging a correction for the league wide value of a quarterback, and that will vary from team to team.

Any player’s value is related to the team’s profit, and it may have less to do with wins, and more to do with appeasing fans, and it’s an aspect that naturally keeps the “copycat” league interesting.

 

[yrba1]

Invest in the O-line as well and that $94 mil guarantee will be worth every penny

 

[fanotodd]

I fail to see why Goff's 2020 hit is even a topic of debate. It's not like he was going anywhere and the Rams would've have cut him had they been able to afford to do so.

It's a reality folks, QBs are overpaid, but there are few teams without a good one who are viewed as contenders.

Several teams faced this crunch of re-signing a QB to a fat contract only to see good players go, and the team sputter. It comes down to how fast you can rebuild your roster while your QB earns his $$, keeping you competitive.
See: saints, packers, raiders, and falcons to name a few. The falcons made the SB and the saints and packers remained good while they eventually brought in new talent. The seahawks and Rams are that team now.
...so we will have to see if Goff is up to the challenge of keeping the Rams a winning team while they replace some big names/shoes.

 

[MachS]

Invest in the O-line as well and that $94 mil guarantee will be worth every penny

How do we invest enough in the o-line to make Goff successful when you're giving him $94M guaranteed? If we DO invest that much in the OL, how do we field a good enough team on defense and at other positions? Seems to me the plan is to supplement the line talent with mid to late round draft picks and hope they develop, versus drafting/paying for top tier OL talent. How is this a viable strategy for the OL to ensure Goff is worth the contract?

 

[nighttrain]

How do we invest enough in the o-line to make Goff successful when you're giving him $94M guaranteed? If we DO invest that much in the OL, how do we field a good enough team on defense and at other positions? Seems to me the plan is to supplement the line talent with mid to late round draft picks and hope they develop, versus drafting/paying for top tier OL talent. How is this a viable strategy for the OL to ensure Goff is worth the contract?

CATCH 22

 

[yrba1]

How do we invest enough in the o-line to make Goff successful when you're giving him $94M guaranteed? If we DO invest that much in the OL, how do we field a good enough team on defense and at other positions? Seems to me the plan is to supplement the line talent with mid to late round draft picks and hope they develop, versus drafting/paying for top tier OL talent. How is this a viable strategy for the OL to ensure Goff is worth the contract?

Investing doesn't necessarily equate to splurging a prince's ransom to the unit. Just be very mindful of the unit with drafting, FA acquisition and coaching. We gambled on the idea that Kromer can turn ground beef into fillet mignon last offseason; just learn and improve from that.