I’m about done with the NFL.

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Ramfansince79

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That “tripping” call in the Pats-Cowboys game was obvious BS.

They got us in the Super Bowl on the phantom holding call.

I honestly believe the refs favor certain teams as dictated by the League office.

When the game has no integrity, it’s no fun to be a fan.

We’ll see tonight if they lets the Packers hold the whiners pass rushers all game.
 

EastRam

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The NFL has a stadium 4 billion over budget (wink wink) and asking the players to help fund it.

But they can’t afford full time refs. Lol lol lol.
 

Dodgersrf

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The tripping call was worth it.
Having to listen to Aikmen and Buck throw a hussy fit over it made my day. They just couldn't let it go
 

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As long as there is the human element in the game there will always be biased calls. Its human nature and theres no getting around it
 

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The tripping call was worth it.
Having to listen to Aikmen and Buck throw a hussy fit over it made my day. They just couldn't let it go

The hissy fit is justified. And they should keep talking about it until they hire full time refs.
 

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The hissy fit is justified. And they should keep talking about it until they hire full time refs.
Disagree.
Neither would have been crying, if it happened to another team.

Questionable, ticky-tac calls happen all the time. This just happened to be against the cowboys
 

leoram

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There were two bogus tripping calls and one questionable holding call. All were perfectly timed when Dallas was gaining momentum. I don’t care about the Cowboys and usually don’t give in to conspiracy theories, but it sure looked rigged to me.

I do not trust the NFL. I would love to be able to prove it but they would burn the evidence anyway.
 

EastRam

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Disagree.
Neither would have been crying, if it happened to another team.

You miss my point.

Your saying they are bias.

I’m saying the more bitching about the refs will make the Numerous Flag League address their failure with part time refs.
 

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Disagree.
Neither would have been crying, if it happened to another team.

Questionable, ticky-tac calls happen all the time. This just happened to be against the cowboys

It wasn’t ticky tack. It was a horrible call.
 

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You miss my point.

Your saying they are bias.

I’m saying the more bitching about the refs will make the Numerous Flag League address their failure with part time refs.
I don’t think it has anything to with being part time. (Although it is ridiculous not to have full timers in a multi billion dollar league). It’s not like they are some scrubs they pulled off the grill at Jack in the Box.

I think it’s orchestrated from the league office to dictate the outcome of games.
 

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I don’t think it has anything to with being part time. (Although it is ridiculous not to have full timers in a multi billion dollar league). It’s not like they are some scrubs they pulled off the grill at Jack in the Box.

I think it’s orchestrated from the league office to dictate the outcome of games.

Agreed. And if the refs were full time being a union they would have more push back on the NFL agenda.

And the ref pool is poor currently. Not to far off Hack in the box.
 

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Disagree.
Neither would have been crying, if it happened to another team.

Questionable, ticky-tac calls happen all the time. This just happened to be against the cowboys
You wouldn't be responding like this had these calls had gone against the Rams. It's rare to get one tripping called, let alone 2. Horrific reffing.
 

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The tripping call was obviously a mistake when shown in slo-mo. Too bad the refs don't have the advantage of slo-mo vision.

They also see plays from very different angles than the TV audience does, often with other players blocking their view.

There will always be bad calls, that is why we have replay (not the perfect solution, but better than none), and players will always be able to get away with illegal plays as long as they can be done subtly enough to make it difficult to flag.

There do seem to be more bad calls and non-calls in the last few years than I can ever remember before, but we also have more advanced technology that exposes them than ever before as well.

I don't go for conspiracy theories but you have to wonder about bias when they seem to continually happen at key moments.
 

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League needs to get rid of half the penalties they can call. Too much crap for refs to look for and call. Games are becoming unwatchable.
 

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I try to avoid these types of threads cause they are just absurd. Every once in awhile I feel the need to set the room straight. So here goes:

Some of you know that I officiate HS, Semi Pro and JC football. I work with several NFL and Div 1 officials. These guys are absolutely top notch and take a great deal of pride in their games. The preparation these guys go through is outrageous (so much so that I don't even want to move up to div 1 or 2 or the NFL. It requires too much time and prep and endlessssssss scrutiny. I don't prep this much to fly my 737). Hours and hours of film review and study every week. They are scrutinized to the nth degree, every play they officiate is reviewed and picked apart.

Officials make numerous decisions on every play. Fouls go uncalled for many reasons, you aren't going to get rid of it. Just because fans don't understand doesn't automatically make officials corrupt. Take a little time to understand the process and key system and you might have a better understanding of the game and how it is officiated. You will see why things were "missed" or not called. (trust me it takes years though) I think that might make your game day a little less stressful and you might actually see the game for what it is: a human game played by humans.

Would you accuse Goff of intentionally throwing footballs to defenders or GZ of intentionally missing every 40-49 yard FG? Of course not, that would be ludicrous and so is accusing officials of intentionally missing calls or controlling the outcome of games.

Say what you want but until you sit in on the preparation and meetings, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure I will get several negative comments by fans who don't want to understand, just want something to bitch about, someone to blame. Have at it
 

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I try to avoid these types of threads cause they are just absurd. Every once in awhile I feel the need to set the room straight. So here goes:

Some of you know that I officiate HS, Semi Pro and JC football. I work with several NFL and Div 1 officials. These guys are absolutely top notch and take a great deal of pride in their games. The preparation these guys go through is outrageous (so much so that I don't even want to move up to div 1 or 2 or the NFL. It requires too much time and prep and endlessssssss scrutiny. I don't prep this much to fly my 737). Hours and hours of film review and study every week. They are scrutinized to the nth degree, every play they officiate is reviewed and picked apart.

Officials make numerous decisions on every play. Fouls go uncalled for many reasons, you aren't going to get rid of it. Just because fans don't understand doesn't automatically make officials corrupt. Take a little time to understand the process and key system and you might have a better understanding of the game and how it is officiated. You will see why things were "missed" or not called. (trust me it takes years though) I think that might make your game day a little less stressful and you might actually see the game for what it is: a human game played by humans.

Would you accuse Goff of intentionally throwing footballs to defenders or GZ of intentionally missing every 40-49 yard FG? Of course not, that would be ludicrous and so is accusing officials of intentionally missing calls or controlling the outcome of games.

Say what you want but until you sit in on the preparation and meetings, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure I will get several negative comments by fans who don't want to understand, just want something to bitch about, someone to blame. Have at it

Regardless of job everyone has room for improvement.

Even NFL referees.
 

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The problem I see is they are calling penalties on what they think they see, instead of an obvious foul . The games are becoming unwatchable with all the bogus flags . Plus they are changing the outcome and costing teams the game . How about some accountability when they make an obvious blown call .
 
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jacktheripper85

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I try to avoid these types of threads cause they are just absurd. Every once in awhile I feel the need to set the room straight. So here goes:

Some of you know that I officiate HS, Semi Pro and JC football. I work with several NFL and Div 1 officials. These guys are absolutely top notch and take a great deal of pride in their games. The preparation these guys go through is outrageous (so much so that I don't even want to move up to div 1 or 2 or the NFL. It requires too much time and prep and endlessssssss scrutiny. I don't prep this much to fly my 737). Hours and hours of film review and study every week. They are scrutinized to the nth degree, every play they officiate is reviewed and picked apart.

Officials make numerous decisions on every play. Fouls go uncalled for many reasons, you aren't going to get rid of it. Just because fans don't understand doesn't automatically make officials corrupt. Take a little time to understand the process and key system and you might have a better understanding of the game and how it is officiated. You will see why things were "missed" or not called. (trust me it takes years though) I think that might make your game day a little less stressful and you might actually see the game for what it is: a human game played by humans.

Would you accuse Goff of intentionally throwing footballs to defenders or GZ of intentionally missing every 40-49 yard FG? Of course not, that would be ludicrous and so is accusing officials of intentionally missing calls or controlling the outcome of games.

Say what you want but until you sit in on the preparation and meetings, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure I will get several negative comments by fans who don't want to understand, just want something to bitch about, someone to blame. Have at it

I’m not questioning the referees because I think they are fixing games.

I’m questioning the referees because it seems as though most of them don’t have any common sense anymore.