If Rams double up at a position, which position would you like them to double up on in draft

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That’s where I saw it. Why report it at all if it’s not true? At the very least it sounds like a Deebo role and they will try it out in camp.

You can read into it what you want. To me it sounds like they are trying to get him done touches but don’t see him as an outside receiver. He’s very good with the ball in his hands. So that makes receiver depth very shallow.
Yeah, I think Deebo lite is the most likely comp for him, he'll be a bit of a swiss army weapon.
 

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The fullback's main responsibility is blocking so I can't see Whittington being used in that way.
eeeeeeh, I think that's kinda an old way of looking at the position, fullback which is rarely used in the NFL these days (maybe better to say more H-back) is an equal parts blocking and receiving position.

Whitt may be in line for a Skow like role for us or more likely used as a Deebo-lite - better to look at the fullback designation just that he will align in the backfield a good amount, now what he does from there will depend but probably equal parts blocking and receiving and lots of move.
 

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He played some FB this past season, and they could be looking to expand on it. They also experimented with Skowronek there, like Whittington, in a limited capacity. But to come on here and say Jourdan is reporting that they are moving him to FB is false, and/or misleading.

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Well, it sounds like they are going to try it. So, not exactly false. False would be no mention of it and my claiming there was.
 

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How many of those CB bodies are good and signed for more than a year or two?


Good according to who? The staff has said they liked Kendrick, and that seems to be backed by keeping him at $3 million instead of using that money elsewhere in FA.

So we have Spoon, Williams, Durant, Forbes and Kendrick - I think swapping one of those is possible - but two? Zero chance IMO. And we aren't going to carry 7.
 

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Good according to who? The staff has said they liked Kendrick, and that seems to be backed by keeping him at $3 million instead of using that money elsewhere in FA.

So we have Spoon, Williams, Durant, Forbes and Kendrick - I think swapping one of those is possible - but two? Zero chance IMO. And we aren't going to carry 7.
We had 6 game day actives last season and another 3 on PS. And most all of those IMO can be upgraded.
 

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No 2nd round pick. We are not doubling up on anyone.
Just something to talk about.
 

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We had 6 game day actives last season and another 3 on PS. And most all of those IMO can be upgraded.

That is a pretty wild sentiment. It is very unlikely a rookie outside of the first round is going to be an upgrade over that group.

Which is why I don't think we will draft two unless one is a hybrid S/CB. We can cut Kendrick but after that? I don't see another upgrade for a day 2/day 3 pick.

And again - the staff likes him more than fans, so even that may be a stretch.
 

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That is a pretty wild sentiment. It is very unlikely a rookie outside of the first round is going to be an upgrade over that group.

Which is why I don't think we will draft two unless one is a hybrid S/CB. We can cut Kendrick but after that? I don't see another upgrade for a day 2/day 3 pick.

And again - the staff likes him more than fans, so even that may be a stretch.
Witherspoon is signed for one year and is just another guy.

Williams was pretty terrible last year and can easily get upgraded.

Durant has his moments but are you saying a 3rd round pick can't be an upgrade to a former 4th round pick? Same goes for Kendrick as a former 6th round pick? Regardless of what they think of him because they've let guys they like before.

We have no idea as fans what we have in Forbes. His nfl tape is not good and he hardly played for us but the Rams have very little invested in him.

The Rams CB room is a bunch of regular guys not a CB1 in the room. The Eagles had a better CB room than that last year and put their top 2 pick to the room for a major upgrade and ended up getting rid of so.e of those vets are just adequate.

Imo be more like the Eagles and upgrade average and not settle. They have the best roster in the NFC if not the entire league because they don't settle.
 

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That is a pretty wild sentiment. It is very unlikely a rookie outside of the first round is going to be an upgrade over that group.

Which is why I don't think we will draft two unless one is a hybrid S/CB. We can cut Kendrick but after that? I don't see another upgrade for a day 2/day 3 pick.

And again - the staff likes him more than fans, so even that may be a stretch.
Not one of our CBs would have started for Philly last year... Maybe not even be a 4th guy off the bench.

You want to win a SB, well then that position needs a serious upgrade.
 

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Witherspoon is signed for one year and is just another guy.

Williams was pretty terrible last year and can easily get upgraded.

Durant has his moments but are you saying a 3rd round pick can't be an upgrade to a former 4th round pick? Same goes for Kendrick as a former 6th round pick? Regardless of what they think of him because they've let guys they like before.

We have no idea as fans what we have in Forbes. His nfl tape is not good and he hardly played for us but the Rams have very little invested in him.

The Rams CB room is a bunch of regular guys not a CB1 in the room. The Eagles had a better CB room than that last year and put their top 2 pick to the room for a major upgrade and ended up getting rid of so.e of those vets are just adequate.

Imo be more like the Eagles and upgrade average and not settle. They have the best roster in the NFC if not the entire league because they don't settle.


I am all for upgrading it by adding a CB1.

But you're crazy if you think a late third round pick is an upgrade over Spoon, Williams or Durant - it could be, but the odds are low right out of the gate. And to me it's not worth spending that pick on a CB who you don't know will beat out Forbes.

If we could pick two CBs where the Eagles did (first and early second), it would be a different story. But we won't be picking in the early second unless we don't pick in round one at all
 

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Not one of our CBs would have started for Philly last year... Maybe not even be a 4th guy off the bench.

You want to win a SB, well then that position needs a serious upgrade.


I never said they didn't need an upgrade. We need a CB1. I don't think we will - or should - spend an additional pick on a CB that may need to be cut if they can't beat out Forbes.

Though your comparison is ironic considering we torched their DBs while we shut their passing game down.
 

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I am all for upgrading it by adding a CB1.

But you're crazy if you think a late third round pick is an upgrade over Spoon, Williams or Durant - it could be, but the odds are low right out of the gate. And to me it's not worth spending that pick on a CB who you don't know will beat out Forbes.

If we could pick two CBs where the Eagles did (first and early second), it would be a different story. But we won't be picking in the early second unless we don't pick in round one at all
Not crazy at all but you're really not putting everything I'm saying together so that's ok. I'll finish my thoughts with one more thing and then move on. Witherspoon, Kendrick and Durant all free agents next year. That's half our current CB room. Add to them Jolly, Green, Woods and Lampkin are 1 year guys. Then moving in to the safeties we have Ingle, Lake and Kurl all free agents after this year. You're crazy if you don't think we're spending picks in the secondary including 2 CB and at least 1 Safety.

A pick in the 1st-3rd can become CB1. A pick after that can upgrade just about everyone else in the CB room. And we'll need both of them next year as well as a Safety next year with all the free agents we have coming up.
 

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Not crazy at all but you're really not putting everything I'm saying together so that's ok. I'll finish my thoughts with one more thing and then move on. Witherspoon, Kendrick and Durant all free agents next year. That's half our current CB room. Add to them Jolly, Green, Woods and Lampkin are 1 year guys. Then moving in to the safeties we have Ingle, Lake and Kurl all free agents after this year. You're crazy if you don't think we're spending picks in the secondary including 2 CB and at least 1 Safety.

A pick in the 1st-3rd can become CB1. A pick after that can upgrade just about everyone else in the CB room. And we'll need both of them next year as well as a Safety next year with all the free agents we have coming up.

Apologies for being nitpicky; I agree with your overall point that cornerback could and should definitely be a priority, especially if D-Will continues to decline and others aren't signed...but all three of the bolded are ERFAs (Ingle is probably a RFA) at most, and will be re-signed. Wallace and McCollough are solid as well, and if Forbes improves, that's a solid group.

I can definitely get behind upgrading the corner room...but not everyone is a one-year guy who won't be re-signed. Lake, in particular, I could absolutely see re-signed. Maybe Durant if he balls out enough, maybe Witherspoon if he's willing to come back another year.
 

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I never said they didn't need an upgrade. We need a CB1. I don't think we will - or should - spend an additional pick on a CB that may need to be cut if they can't beat out Forbes.

Though your comparison is ironic considering we torched their DBs while we shut their passing game down.
Put Stafford on Philly and Hurts playing against their DBs. Diff story
 

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But you're crazy if you think a late third round pick is an upgrade over Spoon, Williams or Durant - it could be, but the odds are low right out of the gate. And to me it's not worth spending that pick on a CB who you don't know will beat out Forbes.
Frank, you could beat out Forbes.

People need to stop labeling him as a former 1st round pick. What he is IS A FAILED PLAYER WE'RE TAKING A FLYER ON.

I would bet a lot of guys could beat out Forbes in this draft.
 

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Not crazy at all but you're really not putting everything I'm saying together so that's ok. I'll finish my thoughts with one more thing and then move on. Witherspoon, Kendrick and Durant all free agents next year. That's half our current CB room. Add to them Jolly, Green, Woods and Lampkin are 1 year guys. Then moving in to the safeties we have Ingle, Lake and Kurl all free agents after this year. You're crazy if you don't think we're spending picks in the secondary including 2 CB and at least 1 Safety.

A pick in the 1st-3rd can become CB1. A pick after that can upgrade just about everyone else in the CB room. And we'll need both of them next year as well as a Safety next year with all the free agents we have coming up.
I agree with you that they'll be looking to add secondary players because so many are signed for 1 more year. And I agree that all of our starters are merely average.

But you're being super optimistic that a 3rd could immediately become CB1 or that a later pick would immediately upgrade just about everyone else. Any 3rd round or later rookie is unlikely to start in year 1. Our best chance of having an immediate or year 1 upgrade is pick 26 or something near that. That's it. In my very humble opinion.