I was wrong about Brandon Staley as Head Coach.

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I thought he was going to be a great Head Coach, he was a defensive coach that was a college quarterback, which I thought was a unique combination. Plus I liked his aggressiveness in his first year, going for the 1st down on 4th & short. However, after being an upper tier DC for the Rams, he could not fix that side of the ball for the Chargers. The defense that had talent, gave up big plays and last year in his first playoff game, which should have been an easy win resulted in a total collapse, which did not wear off in 2023.

Not sure where the Chargers go from here and I would not want Staley back as DC, if Morris leaves for whatever reason, promote DL Coach Eric Henderson, he has earned it.
 

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Yeah, that was a total and complete collapse. You don't get your butt kicked in the NFL that bad without your players completely giving up on you. The loss of Herbert obviously destroyed their mentality I'm sure but the coach still has to find a way to keep his guys motivated. Staley could have been fired at halftime and it would have been justified.
 

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A lot of us were. It seems he didn't learn enough from McVay about being a leader of men. The real question is what comes next. When he gets a DC job again does he rebound and become a players coach or does he lose another locker room.
 

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A lot of us were. It seems he didn't learn enough from McVay about being a leader of men. The real question is what comes next. When he gets a DC job again does he rebound and become a players coach or does he lose another locker room.
All depends on where he ends up as defensive coordinator. I expect many coaching changes this year, so there will be opportunities, plus some DC openings in Dallas (Dan Quinn Head Coach) & with the New York Giants as there have been rumors about Daboll parting ways with Don "Wink" Martindale.

It would be good for Staley, if he could land where there is a strong Head Coach in place, however, I don't expect it to be with the Los Angeles Rams.
 

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I thought he was going to be a great Head Coach, he was a defensive coach that was a college quarterback, which I thought was a unique combination. Plus I liked his aggressiveness in his first year, going for the 1st down on 4th & short. However, after being an upper tier DC for the Rams, he could not fix that side of the ball for the Chargers. The defense that had talent, gave up big plays and last year in his first playoff game, which should have been an easy win resulted in a total collapse, which did not wear off in 2023.

Not sure where the Chargers go from here and I would not want Staley back as DC, if Morris leaves for whatever reason, promote DL Coach Eric Henderson, he has earned it.
In contrast, the Rams performance this year high lights how good of a job Sean McVay has done this year. Staley should have had the advantage of experienced veterans and talent, young franchise QB and great pieces on defense, while McVay had the 2nd youngest squad in the NFL.
Sean McVay, COY
 

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I thought he was going to be a great Head Coach, he was a defensive coach that was a college quarterback, which I thought was a unique combination. Plus I liked his aggressiveness in his first year, going for the 1st down on 4th & short. However, after being an upper tier DC for the Rams, he could not fix that side of the ball for the Chargers. The defense that had talent, gave up big plays and last year in his first playoff game, which should have been an easy win resulted in a total collapse, which did not wear off in 2023.

Not sure where the Chargers go from here and I would not want Staley back as DC, if Morris leaves for whatever reason, promote DL Coach Eric Henderson, he has earned it.
I thought it was a ridiculous, knee jerk hire by Spanos. Staley went from being a linebackers coach to the Rams DC to a head coach all in 13 or 14 months?

I’m guessing he was a good interview, but he was only in charge of one side of the ball for one season. McVay had two years as an offensive assistant with Tampa and the Skins. Then with the Skins he had three years as a TEs coach and three years as an OC. All of that experience at the NFL level and many people still thought it was a reach to hire him.

Staley needs a lot more seasoning. He may still end up being a good head coach one day.
 

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You also have to think of the organization. This is the same team that couldn't win squat with Phillip Rivers at the helm for all those years. Didn't they fire Schotty after he won ten games? I'm not sold that Staley is going to be a good head coach, but I'm not counting it out either. Chargers are a crappy organization.
 

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You also have to think of the organization. This is the same team that couldn't win squat with Phillip Rivers at the helm for all those years. Didn't they fire Schotty after he won ten games? I'm not sold that Staley is going to be a good head coach, but I'm not counting it out either. Chargers are a crappy organization.
Spanos being utter shit can't be overstated.
 

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You also have to think of the organization. This is the same team that couldn't win squat with Phillip Rivers at the helm for all those years. Didn't they fire Schotty after he won ten games? I'm not sold that Staley is going to be a good head coach, but I'm not counting it out either. Chargers are a crappy organization.
Schotty won 14 games that last year.
 

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You also have to think of the organization. This is the same team that couldn't win squat with Phillip Rivers at the helm for all those years. Didn't they fire Schotty after he won ten games? I'm not sold that Staley is going to be a good head coach, but I'm not counting it out either. Chargers are a crappy organization.
Spanos being utter shit can't be overstated.
This is so true, the Chargers find new ways to lose games and the rules have been changed or adjusted because of those collapses.

The reason you have to be the player to recover your own fumble in the last two minutes is when the Raiders did that in 1978 to defeat the San Diego Chargers. And the reasons after a player intercepts the ball in the last two minutes and falls to the ground is because in the playoffs the Chargers had the Patriots beat after an interception, but Wes Welker punch the ball lose from the defensive back, which the Patriots recovered and then went on to score to win the game.
 

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I remember Staley's last game as a Ram coach, the playoff game in GB.

Nearly 200 yards rushing along with almost 300 yards passing given up. An embarrassing and disgraceful performance by the supposedly "#1 defense".

His other "claim to fame" is squandering a 27 - 7 halftime lead in the playoffs and losing 31 - 30 to the Jags.

Staley is not a "big game" coach.

Stay away.
 

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Didn't they fire Schotty after he won ten games?
14. It was a real head scratcher for me. And Staley would be fired by probably every other owner after that game. Spanos is probably too cheap to pull the trigger.
 

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14. It was a real head scratcher for me. And Staley would be fired by probably every other owner after that game. Spanos is probably too cheap to pull the trigger.
If you can't justify firing a coach after that game you'll never justify an in-season firing. Ever.
 

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Yes well now it's time for you to put your jinx efforts to work on Purdy and the shitters.
 

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Yes well now it's time for you to put your jinx efforts to work on Purdy and the shitters.
Doesn't seem to work on San Francisco, but I will go ahead & give it a shot. Kyle Shanahan will not choke in the playoffs this year.
 

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I thought he was going to be a great Head Coach, he was a defensive coach that was a college quarterback, which I thought was a unique combination. Plus I liked his aggressiveness in his first year, going for the 1st down on 4th & short. However, after being an upper tier DC for the Rams, he could not fix that side of the ball for the Chargers. The defense that had talent, gave up big plays and last year in his first playoff game, which should have been an easy win resulted in a total collapse, which did not wear off in 2023.

Not sure where the Chargers go from here and I would not want Staley back as DC, if Morris leaves for whatever reason, promote DL Coach Eric Henderson, he has earned it.
I don't think anyone could have predicted how bad he was gonna be as a HC.

Also, can't quite wrap my head around Henderson for DC. Correct me if I'm wrong but Dline coaches rarely get that promotion (Marinelli, maybe?) and you often want a guy who looks at the D more holistically like a defensive backs coach. Just haven't heard a word about Henderson having talent beyond coaching the Dline and think he's done a fine job but neither amazing nor horrible. Donald skews things positively of course.

That being said, if Morris leaves and we can't get Evero, I have no clue who I'd want after that.