Hypothetical but possible trade ideas???

[Rambitious1]

Cooks for Antonio Brown and a pick/ Cooks for Odell and a pick

No and No.

 

[dieterbrock]

Von Miller. Trade a higher round draft pick for Miller and a lower round draft pick. Miller and Donald. Wow.

Well there’s one thing that would actually make Miller potentially available, and that’s the Salary Cap. Denver gonna squeeze a lot to make the QB sitch work.
On the other hand, what also make it pretty difficult for a team like the Rams to acquire him is that same nasty Salary Cap....
He’s due like 20 mill this season

 

[Ramstien]

Just say no to Miller, 20 million is way too much for him. Find a way to keep Fowler and pair him with Ebukam, I also want to see what Obo can do when healthy.

 

[MadGoat]

Isn't Xavien Howard still under contract with the Dolphins. Is he being shopped for cap relief?

He's in the final year of his contract and the Dolphins look to be really bad in 2019 (on purpose). He doesn't have a 5th year option.

 

[BonifayRam]

I would not look for Snead to be involved in trades, utilizing future Ram draft assets as tender as he did during the 2017 & 2018 offseasons. The 2019 Ram Cap ramifications are completely different now.

I would expect that if new players are brought in to be part of the Rams roster by Snead ...they will arrive because they have been a recent salary cap casualties or acquired by trade players for players, WWC's off the street.....but not draft selections.

Players like ....QB Case Keenum, DE Emerson Griffin, DB Robert Alford. Interior OL Spencer Long, ER Vinny Curry & DT Gerald McCoy.

 

[MrRiceGuyRJ]

Cooks for Antonio Brown and a pick/ Cooks for Odell and a pick

If our goal is upgrading our playmaking ability, though it'd be awesome to have someone like AB or Odell, the draft picks and massive salaries required, I'd almost rather us hope someone like DK Metcalf falls to us in the draft.

Granted I think WR upgrade is not a huge need for us in comparison to other positions.

But if we could pull off any of those trades... that'd be kind of awesome!

 

[FrantikRam]

How has Fowler graded out in games? He didn't exactly have that "splash game" besides one, if I recall.

I guess what I am saying is; are we (fans) enamoured with him like we were with Barron?

What do you mean with Barron?

He was VERY good last year, so we were right to be enamored with him. Obviously this year he was not.

Fowler impressed me. He helped seal the games against Seattle and New Orleans - and while the rest of him games he may not have splashed, he was a MUCH better run defender than I thought he would be. Was really impressed with his strength.

 

[FrantikRam]

Just for fun and in the interest of McVay being innovative and staying ahead of the game..

1st round pick this year and next for Antonio Brown. They trade him to us because the Niners don't offer as much.

We can squeeze him under the cap AND re-sign Saffold - offense is set.

We cut Barron and sign a FS and NT relatively cheap. Trade Brockers for a 2nd round pick, draft an ILB to take Barron's place. With the cap created by trading Brockers, re-sign Fowler. Last year's and this year's draft picks compete for the DE/ILB spots opened up.


And then we come out and run 4 WR/1 RB instead of our 11 personnel. Everett sees time in the slot, Higbee comes in when we go to 11 personnel.

I know I'm stretching what would be possible cap-wise, but imagining Brown/Woods/Kupp/Cooks/Gurley on the field all the time....we would never be stopped. Especially with how good Woods and Kupp are run blocking.

 

[dang]

Just for fun and in the interest of McVay being innovative and staying ahead of the game..

1st round pick this year and next for Antonio Brown. They trade him to us because the Niners don't offer as much.

We can squeeze him under the cap AND re-sign Saffold - offense is set.

We cut Barron and sign a FS and NT relatively cheap. Trade Brockers for a 2nd round pick, draft an ILB to take Barron's place. With the cap created by trading Brockers, re-sign Fowler. Last year's and this year's draft picks compete for the DE/ILB spots opened up.


And then we come out and run 4 WR/1 RB instead of our 11 personnel. Everett sees time in the slot, Higbee comes in when we go to 11 personnel.

I know I'm stretching what would be possible cap-wise, but imagining Brown/Woods/Kupp/Cooks/Gurley on the field all the time....we would never be stopped. Especially with how good Woods and Kupp are run blocking.

Antonio Brown is likely in his last 2 years of #1 WR status. Why trade your future for that?
We have to have an experienced effective edge rusher - so either Fowler if he doesn't break the bank or go FA shopping for another. We can draft a stud with our R1 pick but year 1 would likely be "in training".

 

[Petrowsky]

The Rams need to be very strategic with their draft picks moving forward. We’ve seen the Rams hand out contracts to important players lately which is a great thing, but drafting wisely becomes even more important now. There are going to be holes in the roster that can only be filled by cheap draft picks. This becomes even more important when Goff gets an extension.

After sending out high picks for Cooks, Watkins, Peters, Goff, and Fowler, the Rams need to hold on to their high picks. Now that the foundation is in place, the Rams focus needs to be on supplementing the roster through the draft. Obviously we all know the draft is important all the time, but with where the Rams are at now, it’s more important than ever.

 

[fearsomefour]

How has Fowler graded out in games? He didn't exactly have that "splash game" besides one, if I recall.

I guess what I am saying is; are we (fans) enamoured with him like we were with Barron?

I think he was solid.
The spot opposite him, except for an insane game vs KC, was invisible.
That dominant edge rusher is like trying to land a top flight LT....there are not a ton of them. They are hard to come by.
Fowler is the Rams best (realistic) shot to have a guy who can make some plays from the OLB spot. He shouldn't break the bank.
The other options are spend $18M a year (or more) for a Dee Ford....assuming he gets to FA....draft a guy and wait or hope one the low round pick guys on the roster magically develops.
Fowler won't ever be Von Miller. There's a reason Miller and Mack are the standard now. But, he can be an important piece.

 

[dieterbrock]

I wish there was a way to trade something that would net a return of a full, healthy year of Cooper Kupp

 

[dang]

I wish there was a way to trade something that would net a return of a full, healthy year of Cooper Kupp

So the Rams have 3 very good receivers but not a game changer. We saw this year when 1 of those 3 is out - there is a significant impact to the effectiveness of the offense. Reynolds is athletic and a good red zone target - but he disappears too much. Woods was the most reliable receiver and Kupp was Goff's go to guy. I was initially against it but perhaps exploring a trade for Brown with Cooks might not be a bad idea. Cooks is very good and plays hard but Brown would have probably caught both of Goff's TD passes in the SB.

 

[dieterbrock]

So the Rams have 3 very good receivers but not a game changer. We saw this year when 1 of those 3 is out - there is a significant impact to the effectiveness of the offense. Reynolds is athletic and a good red zone target - but he disappears too much. Woods was the most reliable receiver and Kupp was Goff's go to guy. I was initially against it but perhaps exploring a trade for Brown with Cooks might not be a bad idea. Cooks is very good and plays hard but Brown would have probably caught both of Goff's TD passes in the SB.

First of all, Kupp is the game changer.
Brown required 165+ targets to get his 1200+ yards, while Cooks got his 1200 on just 117 targets, and I don’t recall Brown catching any passes in the playoffs this year either.
He’s untradable due to his contract, and undesirable due to his terrible me first attitude.
And he doesn’t have any SB rings on his finger either...

 

[FrantikRam]

Antonio Brown is likely in his last 2 years of #1 WR status. Why trade your future for that?
We have to have an experienced effective edge rusher - so either Fowler if he doesn't break the bank or go FA shopping for another. We can draft a stud with our R1 pick but year 1 would likely be "in training".

We hit it out of the park with McVay's first draft class without a first round pick - so in what world would that be defined as "trading your future"???

 

[fanotodd]

I would think more about who we have that other teams would covet. I'm not necessarily on board with these hypothetical trades, but if I was a GM for another team and was eyeing the Rams roster...

1) Higbee. The Rams are not gonna trade the first pick of the new regime (Everett), but in a system loaded with other receiving options, Higbee would benefit from a trade and the Rams could recoup more than they spent on him. This is a deal that should be good for all parties.
2) Havs. Like I said, I'm not advocating this, but look at how another FO would see him. He's been a solid, durable player about to enter his prime as an OL and he's already locked up with a new deal. This would be a long shot and really only possible if the Rams drafted another tackle.
3) Reynolds. Teams surely saw how he filled in and was increasingly used in the absence of Kupp.
4) Christian. The Rams could be thinking about moving him into Joyner's spot, but he showed he's ready for more PT.

I'm sure the Rams would like to get something for Barron, but why would a team bite when they can just wait to see if he's available after release?

 

[jrry32]

So the Rams have 3 very good receivers but not a game changer. We saw this year when 1 of those 3 is out - there is a significant impact to the effectiveness of the offense. Reynolds is athletic and a good red zone target - but he disappears too much. Woods was the most reliable receiver and Kupp was Goff's go to guy. I was initially against it but perhaps exploring a trade for Brown with Cooks might not be a bad idea. Cooks is very good and plays hard but Brown would have probably caught both of Goff's TD passes in the SB.

Cooks is 25 years old. We have him signed for the next 5 years. Antonio Brown is 30 years old. The guy could have another 5 great years in him, or we could see him fall off fast in the next couple of years. Why would we take that risk?

Brown is the better WR, but unless they're giving him to us straight up for Cooks, it's not worth considering. And if they are doing that, I still would lean towards no.

When Kupp was healthy, we were splitting our targets just about equally between Cooks, Kupp, and Woods. Antonio Brown did not deal well with other WRs eating into his targets. Why would we behave himself here?

 

[jrry32]

Just say no to Miller, 20 million is way too much for him. Find a way to keep Fowler and pair him with Ebukam, I also want to see what Obo can do when healthy.

It would be $17.5 million for Miller if we acquired him, and he's worth every penny of that.

 

[FrantikRam]

Cooks is 25 years old. We have him signed for the next 5 years. Antonio Brown is 30 years old. The guy could have another 5 great years in him, or we could see him fall off fast in the next couple of years. Why would we take that risk?

Brown is the better WR, but unless they're giving him to us straight up for Cooks, it's not worth considering. And if they are doing that, I still would lean towards no.

When Kupp was healthy, we were splitting our targets just about equally between Cooks, Kupp, and Woods. Antonio Brown did not deal well with other WRs eating into his targets. Why would we behave himself here?

I definitely wouldn't trade Cooks for Brown - I would want to add Brown to our existing WR group. All of our three WRs have at least some history of missing time with injuries (well, not so much for Cooks, but he has had a few concussions). I also personally don't think McVay will go away from the 3 WRs on the field - it was nearly record breaking what we did with our 3 top WRs this year, and that's awesome.

Except when one went down, our offense reverted back to some disturbing trends - and in two of our bad offensive performances (Eagles/Patriots), we weren't playing on the road and we weren't playing against top flight defenses.

I know it's definitely outlandish and unlikely to happen, but if Whitworth were to retire I have faith in Noteboom, and it would open up the cap space for Brown (I wouldn't want to spend the cap dollars unless we had that kind of money open up).

As for why he would behave - why would Peters, Talib and Suh behave? How did Talib practice against Crabtree and mysteriously, for the first time in a while, not get into an altercation? Part of the Steelers culture is being blamed on Tomlin - and IMO it usually is the coaches/leader's fault, so that makes sense.

Having said all that, I know it's very unlikely - but if I'm asking myself how we prepare best for what went wrong this year, that's my answer, with the caveat that it could only happen if Whit retired. If it were to happen, I think McVay could devise a game plan that played our 4 WRs together at least 50% of the time, but be able to rotate them when they're not on the field so that each WR plays about 75% of the snaps.

This also assumes that Brown is smart enough for McVay's system, which I have no clue about.

 

[Merlin]

I think our trade pieces are JRey and Woods. I could see us offering JRey to the Skins for Reed.

Reed is the perfect trade target for McVay. He is undervalued right now due to injuries but an explosive piece in McVay's scheme. Our TEs are solid but unspectacular. The relationship too between McVay and the Skins should allow for good discourse.

JRey meanwhile is ready to play, knows the system, and brings club control for Skins.