How much of our woe is field turf related?

[TheTackle]

I read somewhere that OBJ's original surgery was a botched job and wasn't done right (don't know the details) and a lawsuit was considered at the time (it's been months since February or March I read this). Thinking that had more to due with his injury than the turf

So Kupp’s wrong? The evidence seems to say otherwise but I take your point about OBJs previous operation

 

[XXXIVwin]

"It's not even close," Kupp said, per ESPN's Sarah Barshop. ...Hands down, we should be playing on grass. Hands down, we should be on grass. And that's all I'm going to say."

Hey owners... would you install grass fields to save the health of a guy like Cooper Kupp?

You'd do it for Randolph Scott...


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yS0efFNShqo

 

[Psycho_X]

Welp...

View: https://twitter.com/JasonCole62/status/1586038137540595713?s=20&t=cAdu7pXVgM7kBYf79d_sBQ
Andrew Whitworth Knows The Issues

When asked about the field, Whitworth initially texted simply, “I hate it.” That sentiment is shared by numerous other players. Then Whitworth explained the issue.

“I hate all artificial turf because it’s inconsistent. Some of them are short and slick and some are high and grip too much or its spongy and you feel like you’re sinking in too much,” Whitworth said, comparing artificial turf to the way grass fields feel. “Either way, it’s not a natural way to step or run, so you always feel uncomfortable no matter what. You feel like you can get hurt anytime. SoFi is even worse because there are different spots that are different height all over the field. It’s really bad.”

 

[XXXIVwin]

Welp...

View: https://twitter.com/JasonCole62/status/1586038137540595713?s=20&t=cAdu7pXVgM7kBYf79d_sBQ
Andrew Whitworth Knows The Issues

When asked about the field, Whitworth initially texted simply, “I hate it.” That sentiment is shared by numerous other players. Then Whitworth explained the issue.

“I hate all artificial turf because it’s inconsistent. Some of them are short and slick and some are high and grip too much or its spongy and you feel like you’re sinking in too much,” Whitworth said, comparing artificial turf to the way grass fields feel. “Either way, it’s not a natural way to step or run, so you always feel uncomfortable no matter what. You feel like you can get hurt anytime. SoFi is even worse because there are different spots that are different height all over the field. It’s really bad.”

Wow, just wow.

 

[Corbin]

So

So Kupp’s wrong? The evidence seems to say otherwise but I take your point about OBJs previous operation

This literally has nothing to do with what Kupp said or thinks, solely about OBJ's injury as I commented on.

Personally I think grass is the best having played on both turf and grass in my high school and college careers and it's not even close, so I understand Kupp's and any other players assessment on the matter.

 

[CGI_Ram]

My knees are hurting just reading this thread.

 

[Dagonet]

There is a water shortage in the area. At least what I hear on the news... Can't water the grass then you're playing on dirt. Painting the field as in Cleveland in the winter. lol It may be better then turf, but Idk? Thoughts?

 

[OregonRamsFan]

There's no evidence that turf causes more injuries than grass. Nada. They've done loads of studies in soccer on this as well. If there was a direct correlation these owners wouldn't put their investments (I.e. their players) at unnecessary additional risk.

Players of all sports don't like playing on turf, but they're no more likely to get injured. I'll look out some of the studies.

But you’ve got to wonder whose bankrolling those studies. You can make numbers lie all day long.

 

[ReekofRams]

My knees are hurting just reading this thread.

But did they already hurt before you read this thread?

 

[oldnotdead]

What Whitworth talked about is why I've said if they really wanted to make it safer the NFL would develop a pad like green playing surface. Players would wear athletic type shoes tuned for their positions, i.e. running shoes for WRs, RBs, TEs, defensive positions. They could reduce concussions to a fraction of what they have now by trashing the hard shell helmet which simply transmits the force of impact and is used as a weapon. When they get hit with a billion dollar lawsuit over CTE they probably will at that point. Money is what moves the scale in the NFL. Nothing else.

 

[gogoat1]

FWIW the whole reason field turf was developed was to offer the best solution for playing surface. Now granted grass gives, but field turf offers quite a bit of pluses too.

Watering vs. Cutting
When it comes to watering versus cutting the turf field has it hands down over the natural grass field. Both need to be watered but for different reasons. Natural grass must be watered often to ensure proper grass growth. The turf field must be watered simply to remove dust and dirt buildup.

Wear From Traffic
When it comes to foot traffic on turf as compared to grass fields, again turf fields take it hands down. Foot traffic can make bare spots on a natural grass field. Turf is far more equipped to handle foot traffic without noticeable wear and tear.

Durability
Turf fields are clearly far more durable than natural grass fields. They handle foot traffic better. If the turf is well-maintained, it can last for up to 20 years or more if you use the proper artificial turf care maintenance.

Ease of Cleaning
Turf fields are much easier to clean than are natural grass fields. If leaves get on turf it only takes a blower to blow them off. If dust and dirt get on it then you simply need to hose it off or let the rain take care of it.

Long Term Maintenance Costs
While the initial cost of installation of a turf field can be heavy, the long-term maintenance cost will make the difference over the years of use. Natural grass fields need constant watering, seeding, cutting, pesticide application and etc. Turf fields need none of that. There are maintenance costs associated with them, but it is less in the long term.

Appearance
Turf fields will maintain their appearance much better over the long term than natural grass fields. They handle wear and tear better and weather better, so they won’t turn brown in high temperatures.

Choice of Grass Type
When purchasing a turf field, the organization can choose what kind of grass they want. From length to thickness and type of grass they have many options to choose from.

Eco-Friendly
Because turf does not require pesticides or nearly as much water, it is much more eco-friendly than natural grass fields.

Water Conservation
Turf fields don’t require watering on a regular basis. If they get dusty and dirty you can simply hose them off. If you live in a rainy region then the rain can do that job for you.

Water Runoff
Turf fields are better able to handle water run off than natural grass fields. They can be used to catch the water and use it for other applications.

Still, grass is better. Just the idea that turf is more Eco-friendly is laughable.
If you can not get a grass stain when you slide on it, its fake garbage.
Grass rules and in sunny So Cal it should be the rule.
Arizona has a better field than us.