How do you get Quick onto the active roster?

[Irish]

Yeah, but Bryant can still practice and hasn't missed any time at all in that regard.
Quick was recovering from surgery and hadn't worked his upper body or practiced with the team well into OTAs.

He's just behind by a few weeks. He'll be back when he's fully up to speed.

Not to be pedantic, but Bryant has not practiced at all with the team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...teelers-working-john-lucas-houston-suspension

"Bryant, a talented receiver who caught eight touchdowns as a rookie, is missing four games after multiple failed marijuana tests. He can return to the practice and playing fields after the Steelers' Oct. 1 game against Baltimore. He'll be eligible for the Monday Night Football matchup with San Diego on Oct. 12."

 

[-X-]

Not to be pedantic, but Bryant has not practiced at all with the team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...teelers-working-john-lucas-houston-suspension

"Bryant, a talented receiver who caught eight touchdowns as a rookie, is missing four games after multiple failed marijuana tests. He can return to the practice and playing fields after the Steelers' Oct. 1 game against Baltimore. He'll be eligible for the Monday Night Football matchup with San Diego on Oct. 12."

My mistake then. I thought even if you're suspended, you can still practice with the team.

 

[kurtfaulk]

It's hilarious to me that a team with as pedestrian of a group of WRs as the Rams do have a "tough" decision to make when it comes to activating Quick. If Brian Quick is as up to speed as he can be (not a given) and is healthy (also not a given), it is not even a debate: you put in Quick as your #1 WR and build the rest of the freaking gameday roster.

You think when Martavis Bryant comes back from suspension in a couple of weeks the Steelers are going to sweat putting him in the lineup because that would mean sitting a special teams guy? Give me a break.

The only reason Quick is not in the lineup right now is because he is either A) Not healthy or B) is still playing catch up because of all the time he missed and is struggling. I would put my money on the latter.

exactly. this whole notion that they're sitting quick due to special teams numbers is preposterous. that's why listening to anything fisher says on his useless weekly show is a bad idea.

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[kurtfaulk]

My mistake then. I thought even if you're suspended, you can still practice with the team.

you can, in preseason.

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[Big Willie]

Deactivate Pead and Givens for Gurley and Quick. It's time to get our best team on the game day roster.

 

[CGI_Ram]

easy, sit Givens

This.

 

[RamFan503]

Not to be pedantic, but Bryant has not practiced at all with the team.

But I'll bet he's eating the hell out of those Doritos.

Bryant, a talented receiver who caught eight touchdowns as a rookie, is missing four games after multiple failed marijuana tests.

 

[Rams43]

But you're adding 3 players in your scenario (Quick, Gurley, Reynolds) and only removing 2 (Pead, Givens).

Haven't you heard of the "new math", Dewey? Lol.

Let's see...

Activate Gurley and sit Pead.

Activate Quick and sit Givens.

Those two are easy.

If they wanna activate C Reynolds, than another teamer has to either sit or be cut.

When Watts returns, Pead is cut for sure. Watts is no ST slouch, himself. Hell, does Watts make C Reynolds expendable?

Some really tough decisions are just around the corner, that's for sure.

 

[Rams43]

Pead's not really a placeholder though, I don't think. He's got a spot on special teams regardless of what Gurley does. Kind of like carrying Dominique Curry all those years. He excelled at what he did, so they kept him active at all times. Givens might be a different story, but again ... that kinda bums me out because he's ultra-focused this year.

Gotta disagree, X.

Pead IS a placeholder until Watts is available at the latest.

Gurley
Mason
Cunningham
Watts

That's it at RB, don't you think?

And Watts is a fine ST player, plus Benny is our KR. Just no room left for Pead, even on the 53.

Givens would be our 5th WR, but probably not active upon Quick's return. Even as a 5th WR, Givens would force another difficult cut somewhere else.

Geez, this is getting more complicated than solving a Rubic's cube.

 

[RamzFanz]

Gotta disagree, X.

Pead IS a placeholder until Watts is available at the latest.

Gurley
Mason
Cunningham
Watts

That's it at RB, don't you think?

And Watts is a fine ST player, plus Benny is our KR. Just no room left for Pead, even on the 53.

Givens would be our 5th WR, but probably not active upon Quick's return. Even as a 5th WR, Givens would force another difficult cut somewhere else.

Geez, this is getting more complicated than solving a Rubic's cube.

Thank goodness we have these issues for the first time in forever.

Many of the players we are cutting are being added to other teams and many we are benching we don't want to bench. We have been so desperate for talent, we couldn't stand to let any go. We are cutting and benching talent and not missing them thank god.

Quick, Gurley, Mason, and Cunningham need to be suited up. I agree, Watts too, one last shot for this kid. Who do we sit or cut? The guys we used to beg to perform and didn't but we still held on to. Or guys who did but just in a limited or lesser way.

I had big hopes for Pead and Givens and will not miss them for a single play of a single game. They may have talent and get another chance and excel and so what? Either Givens didn't get open, the line failed, Foles did, or Cigi did. Dude is a burner. I will miss you not at all with Quick in the game. Goodbye and good luck. Pead? No emotions at all with as much as I wanted him to break out. See ya. There needs to be a performance minimum now. This needs to be a do it or lose it team.

James Laurinaitis? Love you man. You were a badass on a loser team and that's not your fault. You got Jacksoned and Bulgered. Are you a badass on this team? No? Bye. Do it or lose it. Yes? Thank you.

Time to stop cutting bait and fish. Time to stop kneeling like we are scared and attack.

I'm done being sentimental, myself. Done. The NFL is as close to a game war as you can get without guns and killing, although that sadly happens on occasion too. You need a general with a plan and balls and a commitment to making the enemy pay and winning at all costs, he needs leaders that can deliver every time, and they need soldiers who can carry it all out.

You choose John Basilone and Patton, not Pead and Givens. John Basilone held off 3,000 enemy after his 15 man platoon was all but wiped out. Patton LOVED knowing the history of his opponents and changing the tactics to beat Generals he had never met by intimately embracing their strategies and using those habits against them. Screw the egos of past successes or moral victories. Play, lead, adjust, or get out.

Top to bottom. Deliver or leave.

 

[-X-]

Gotta disagree, X.

Pead IS a placeholder until Watts is available at the latest.

Gurley
Mason
Cunningham
Watts

That's it at RB, don't you think?

And Watts is a fine ST player, plus Benny is our KR. Just no room left for Pead, even on the 53.

Givens would be our 5th WR, but probably not active upon Quick's return. Even as a 5th WR, Givens would force another difficult cut somewhere else.

Geez, this is getting more complicated than solving a Rubic's cube.

And get rid of Chase Reynolds too? He's not even on the RB depth chart.
Who do you want your gunner to be once Pead is gone? Mason? Cunningham isn't fast enough.
Maybe Watts can do that. If he can, then I agree that Pead is expendable. But he hasn't been for a few years now.

Also, why deactivate Givens when you have Marquez only playing special teams? <-- trick question.

 

[12intheBox]

Aren't special teams TDs still worth 6 points? We may want to continue to take that phase of the game pretty seriously.

 

[Irish]

Aren't special teams TDs still worth 6 points? We may want to continue to take that phase of the game pretty seriously.

If adding Quick to your starting roster is an issue, then one can pretty safely assume that the coaches and front office personnel who are putting together the roster on Sunday's are pretty terrible at their jobs. Quick is your bona fide, clear cut, head and shoulders #1 WIDE RECEIVER ON A TEAM STARVING FOR WIDE RECEIVER TALENT!

The Cowboys could score a special teams touchdown every week until Dez comes back and allow 0 special teams return yards, and the Cowboys would not hesitate one fraction of a second to put him in when he is cleared to play. Somehow, the actual good teams in the league find a way to balance their special teams on the back end with their STUDS ON THE FRONT END.

I can't believe this is a topic that is being argued, it is baffling to me. The only reason Quick isn't playing is because he is not healthy or he is slow on the uptake on the new offense and is behind the other guys, and even that is crap because Quick can just line up on the outside and go deep 8 times a game and be more effective than the last guy on the team. So, really, health is literally the only reason that Fisher and co. could justify Quick not playing, otherwise they are negligent in their responsibilities of putting a winning roster together.

 

[12intheBox]

If adding Quick to your starting roster is an issue, then one can pretty safely assume that the coaches and front office personnel who are putting together the roster on Sunday's are pretty terrible at their jobs. Quick is your bona fide, clear cut, head and shoulders #1 WIDE RECEIVER ON A TEAM STARVING FOR WIDE RECEIVER TALENT!

The Cowboys could score a special teams touchdown every week until Dez comes back and allow 0 special teams return yards, and the Cowboys would not hesitate one fraction of a second to put him in when he is cleared to play. Somehow, the actual good teams in the league find a way to balance their special teams on the back end with their STUDS ON THE FRONT END.

I can't believe this is a topic that is being argued, it is baffling to me. The only reason Quick isn't playing is because he is not healthy or he is slow on the uptake on the new offense and is behind the other guys, and even that is crap because Quick can just line up on the outside and go deep 8 times a game and be more effective than the last guy on the team. So, really, health is literally the only reason that Fisher and co. could justify Quick not playing, otherwise they are negligent in their responsibilities of putting a winning roster together.

A. Quick isn't Dez
B. I don't see anyone on this forum saying that Quick shouldn't be activated- we are just debating how.

My point is you don't just ignore STs in the evaluation

 

[HometownBoy]

I think Givens and Pead being phased out is a good thing. It shows that are talent is increasing on multi sides of the football club. Pead may very well be a very good gunner, but he's getting outsourced. Marquez has earned his strips and shown he's a pretty good gunner, Pead only seems to be hanging on because two of our special teamers are on the bench right now: Watts and Reynolds and when they come back there's really no argument that they're better special teamers than Pead and Cunningham has always been a better returner so that hurts him as well.

I just don't see where Pead works in anymore after our special team gets healthy and Watts gets unsuspended. For now I'd sit Givens, but once Reynolds quad heals up and Watts comes back, I definitely don't hesitate to say goodbye to Pead.

 

[TheDYVKX]

I just want to point out, Givens was open deep on the sack fumble against the Seahawks. He would have had a huge play if Foles had an extra 0.5 second. So he hasn't necessarily done nothing, it's just an opportunity thing.

 

[12intheBox]

Reynolds v Pead

Assuming both are fully healthy - who makes it and who gets the boot?

 

[DCH]

I just want to point out, Givens was open deep on the sack fumble against the Seahawks. He would have had a huge play if Foles had an extra 0.5 second. So he hasn't necessarily done nothing, it's just an opportunity thing.

That is an important point... when your game is the deep ball, and your QB doesn't have time to set up in the pocket, you're going to look like a useless guy, because no matter what it takes an extra second or two to get deep.

 

[DCH]

Reynolds v Pead

Assuming both are fully healthy - who makes it and who gets the boot?

Reynolds has been perhaps our most consistent and integral ST performer, but I do think that the emergence of Lynch and Hager may be a big threat to his ST role. Pead is probably harder to replace because the gunner position is harder to fill. JMO of course, but I think Reynolds is more likely to end up cut.

 

[12intheBox]

Reynolds has been perhaps our most consistent and integral ST performer, but I do think that the emergence of Lynch and Hager may be a big threat to his ST role. Pead is probably harder to replace because the gunner position is harder to fill. JMO of course, but I think Reynolds is more likely to end up cut.

I agree - and it may be that both end up on the chopping block before the year is over.