How David Edwards fits with the Los Angeles Rams

[oldnotdead]

I absolutely agree that should Whitworth go down, Noteboom would shift over to LT. He had experience at OT last year. But then that leaves someone to play LG. I think it will come down to Evans or Demby. I really feel one of these two will be starting at RG so it would be the other as backup OG. They also could be the starting OGs of the future.

I don't hate Blythe, I simply see that the Rams need an upgrade there. I'm not alone in thinking Blythe was the weak link in the oline last year. If he steps up and elevates his game and beats out everyone else than great, the best man regardless should start. I'm only feeling that his position as RG starter isn't locked in. I think he could make the roster as a backup OG and C. His strength may ultimately be his versatility to play center. Center is the hardest position on the oline to play properly. The center makes all the oline calls pre-snap and he must see the same thing that the QB sees to do that properly.

Nick Hardwick was a long time standout center for the Chargers for years. He wasn't the best blocker in either the pass or run. But he was almost always on the same page as Philip Rivers when it came to making the proper oline calls. The ability to correctly read the defense and make the proper blocking calls is what made him special and why he had such a long career. Thats why with a new center like Allen the need for depth there is crucial. If Blythe can provide that then he would have immense value. So don't think I hate Blythe, because that is far from the truth. I simply think that the Rams can do better at RG with one of the others as the starter.

 

[MauiRam]

Den the Coach said: I personally enjoy watching preseason games, not for the purity of the game, rather the evaluation process and getting to watch players you ordinarily don't get to see.

Well said! I take grief from several of my football buddies who only watch regular season games that count. I'm reallly looking forward to watching this year's Rams' draft choices perform in preseason games. If this year's draft yields say three players who evolve into starters within the next couple of years (sooner is ok too), then we'll be solidly on track to build some affordable quality depth ..

 

[Soul Surfer]

LG...
does Kromer have a OL'er who could fill the shoes of what Noteboom did last season? We will find out.

With Kromer as the line coach, everybody he coaches seems to take a step forward.

I personally feel very confident we will have somebody emerge.

Some great candidates in Evans, Demby and Edwards.

Somebody emerges from that pack this year early.
JMO.

 

[PhillyRam]

Who would argue against that statement?

JN flashed some serious steadiness in his few cameo appearances subbing for AW in the 2018 regular season. His rookie preseason work was also sound.

Can Kromer increase & intensify the previous 2018 Plan that kept AW fresh & rested to play in 19 regular season games as the oldest starting LT in the NFL in 2019? If they do go with JN @ LG does Kromer have a OL'er who could fill the shoes of what Noteboom did last season? We will find out.

Yeah, my bad... I read your earlier post and took it as you did not want Noteboom at any point to play LT next year since they had Edwards and Evans... I missed your last paragraph.

 

[Memento]

I honestly think that if we're going with nine offensive linemen, it'll be Whitworth, Noteboom, Allen, Blythe (yes, I have Blythe as a starter), Havenstein, Demby, Evans, Edwards, and - drum roll please - ...Vitas Hrynkiewicz. My thoughts? We need a backup center, and since Demby, Evans, and Edwards can't play it, while Hrynkiewicz can, I think that he makes the cut. I don't trust Aaron Neary's off-the-field problem. I know McVay vouched for him, but I can't get DUIs out of my mind.

Why the inappropriate, @OC--LeftCoast ?

 

[So Ram]

It really is amazing the dislike for the guy. All he did was win the RG after Jamon got suspended. It wasn't because he could play center too. After Jamon came back he couldn't take the spot back from Blythe. In my opinion, the only way Blythe doesn't start at RG is if B Allen fails as a starter.

Allen is a guy Jared Goff likes at Center better than Blythe. That ain’t going to happen.

Yeah - Blythe has earned the starting RG spot, but he was a sieve at the end of the season. Will see what happens,but Blythe adds better depth as a back up imo .

 

[hotanez]

Allen is a guy Jared Goff likes at Center better than Blythe. That ain’t going to happen.

You did read where I said "if" Allen fails right? and how do you know who Goff likes and doesn't like at center LOL

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Why the inappropriate, @OC--LeftCoast ?

Fat fingers I suppose

I rarely if ever do the negative ratings thing, my apologies, of course I’ve removed it

 

[LFMako]

Great Thread - Serious fan, but admittedly need to understand what exactly "line calls" mean and are, does the center always make the call, where and when does the QB make the call. Anybody have a link to getting a better understanding?

 

[Riverumbbq]

Great Thread - Serious fan, but admittedly need to understand what exactly "line calls" mean and are, does the center always make the call, where and when does the QB make the call. Anybody have a link to getting a better understanding?

Oftentimes, it will be the center’s responsibility to recognize the defense they’re facing and adjust the protection accordingly. Communication is key for every part of the offensive line, but for the center, it is essential. Anyone who spots a potential problem should speak up, but it's essentially up to the center to have his OL lined up correctly and anticipating what the defense is going to do next. The QB will have already called the play, although he may yet call an audible based on what he sees or hears regarding the defense. jmo.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Mako, I've never played OL, but I've watched a lot of football in my time, and have friends that have played, so I'll give you what I know (very limited), been told and what I've observed at TC.

OL calls are usually given by the C, but not always. C has direct contact with the QB and they talk while he's under center, so that make C best to make line calls. When they break the huddle, he is scanning the D, looking for how DL is lined up over the OL, how LB's are aligned, looking for tell-tale foot placement, leans and eye-movement that might clue him to blitz' and from where. He then gives orders to OL for blocking scheme according the coming play. All of this has to takes place in just a few seconds.

Of course there is a lot more involved, but basicly the line calls are for who to block whom, and recognizing Defensive schemes. It takes years for an C to aquire good OL calls. Sullivan was as good as any in the NFL, maybe the best the last couple of years, so Allen has a good start. He's going to get schooled though, and have some rough moments. Kromer and McVay believe in him enough to start him. I'll trust their judgement.

 

[So Ram]

You did read where I said "if" Allen fails right? and how do you know who Goff likes and doesn't like at center LOL

You have to listen to interviews to hear it direct.

Plus what are the odds of Allen Failing ???

A smart choice would be there is a reason Sullivan is gone. It’s not like John Sullivan wasn’t a big part of The Rams success.Think and say what you want. Allen is not failing, the odds I’d give is at least 95% in favor in Allen.

 

[Zaphod]

Yet, He wasn’t pushing Whitworth, Saffold, or Havenstein out as starters.

Those are some big players to push, and I mean that both literally and figuratively.

Anyway, I really think it's smart to get Noteboom some regular time at guard ahead of any eventuality that he plays tackle regularly.

 

[BonifayRam]

Those are some big players to push, and I mean that both literally and figuratively.

Anyway, I really think it's smart to get Noteboom some regular time at guard ahead of any eventuality that he plays tackle regularly.

We have seen a lot of Noteboom at OT not OG. So we're basing much of our thoughts on JN at that position. He did play some LG in preseason but not much. The Rams Org. sure seems confident of JN's ability at LG.

 

[bubbaramfan]

McVay sat all the starters in pre season games last year. Will he sit starters Noteboom and Allen this season? Both have never started an NFL game and have very few snaps.

 

[hotanez]

You have to listen to interviews to hear it direct.

Plus what are the odds of Allen Failing ???

A smart choice would be there is a reason Sullivan is gone. It’s not like John Sullivan wasn’t a big part of The Rams success.Think and say what you want. Allen is not failing, the odds I’d give is at least 95% in favor in Allen.

So your saying there is a interview of Goff saying that he prefers Allen over Blythe at center? I call BS.

The odds of Allen failing are just opinion. I hope he succeeds but nothing is guaranteed. you missed the point of what I originally posted so I'm done with this discussion.

 

[Merlin]

You have to listen to interviews to hear it direct.

Plus what are the odds of Allen Failing ???

A smart choice would be there is a reason Sullivan is gone. It’s not like John Sullivan wasn’t a big part of The Rams success.Think and say what you want. Allen is not failing, the odds I’d give is at least 95% in favor in Allen.

Agreed. Allen took the snaps during the week vs the defensive starters all season long last year. So I'd say the odds of him failing are just about zero. It's not like the Rams are projecting here. They actually saw him playing vs our DL over and over and over and he acquitted himself well in limited snaps late season as well. Same goes for Boom too, btw. The Rams are not flying blind in these decisions, they know what they're doing.

Remember when we were all wondering if it was wise to have Boom & Allen as our main depth during the season? Rams have been committed to both these guys for a long time tbh. My concerns are pretty far in the past at this point.

 

[So Ram]

So your saying there is a interview of Goff saying that he prefers Allen over Blythe at center? I call BS.

The odds of Allen failing are just opinion. I hope he succeeds but nothing is guaranteed. you missed the point of what I originally posted so I'm done with this discussion.

Call BS all you want !!! Listen to what Alllen has to say !! He is very humble and wants to earn the CENTER postion. He does not want to be given the job .

Truth is the truth !! Jared Goff told him he was going to be his man. Goff knee Sullywas going to be released before. Allen or any of us.

 

[So Ram]

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Those are some big players to push, and I mean that both literally and figuratively.

Anyway, I really think it's smart to get Noteboom some regular time at guard ahead of any eventuality that he plays tackle regularly.

. This is the time of year to cross train. Go back to Kromer putting Havenstein at guard & Brown at RT

 

[So Ram]

We have seen a lot of Noteboom at OT not OG. So we're basing much of our thoughts on JN at that position. He did play some LG in preseason but not much. The Rams Org. sure seems confident of JN's ability at LG.

Well Bonifay your a guy that rewatches games. Noteboom was the first sub at LG for Saffold & LT for Big Whit !! He played a couple series at both during 2018.
Allen took over for Sullivan at least once at Center.