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How David Edwards fits with the Los Angeles Rams

By Jake Kocorowski May 29, 2019, 9:11am CDT
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The last of the four Wisconsin Badgers selected in the 2019 NFL Draft, offensive lineman David Edwards found a home with the defending NFC champion Los Angeles Rams.

Drafted in the fifth round with the 169th overall pick, Edwards landed with an organization that is not just riding high off a Super Bowl berth but also has experience on the offensive line with a key former Badger in right tackle Rob Havenstein.

Joining us to break down how Edwards—the former prep quarterback turned college tight end turned standout college right tackle—fits in the Los Angeles offense, Turf Show Times Joe McAtee answered some of our questions.

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2019 NFL Draft: OT David Edwards scouting report
Overall, what were fans’ impressions of the teams’ draft selections, and particularly of Edwards’ name being called in the fifth round?
There’s always a bias for fans to over-grade things. That being said, a majority of Rams fans gave the team a “B” for the draft. I think the main thing I’d point out is that the Rams aren’t in a huge position of need when it comes to this year’s draft class having an immediate impact. Much like last year, the Rams don’t have a ton of playing time up for grabs among their rookies. Unlike a majority of NFL teams who went into the draft looking for immediate starting talent as well as long-term support to develop into their second and third seasons, the Rams didn’t have a ton of openings heading into the draft.

That being said, I think most understood that there was plenty of upside to be had in drafting for the medium-term future. Edwards is a fine example of that.

While starting right tackle Rob Havenstein signed an extension last August that locks him in through 2022, starting left tackle Andrew Whitworth is going to retire after this season. So whether Edwards sticks at right tackle as the backup to Havenstein or if he contends for the starting gig to replace Whitworth next season or even if he kicks inside, he’s got the luxury of climbing the NFL learning curve and not having to come in and immediately produce.

And I think that’s why many, myself included, are excited about the pick. There’s no immediate demand. He can grow into a future role with time. So his success at this level will be one less of execution and more of adaptation.

How is the depth and talent on the offensive line for the Rams right now?
Depth, good. Talent ... waning. But with promise.

The Rams’ 2018 line was perhaps the best Rams offensive line of my lifetime. While their performance occasionally spurred unnecessary hyperbole, it did so only because they were so good. As we know though, all good things must come to an end. The Rams moved on from starting left guard Rodger Saffold and starting center John Sullivan. And while the Rams were proactive in drafting two replacement candidates in Joseph Noteboom and Brian Allen, those two have yet to prove anything at this level while Saffold and Sullivan have played a combined 267 games. And now with Edwards and fellow 2019 draftee Bobby Evans in tow, the Rams have more potential on the OL depth chart than they have had since 2015. The difference is that in 2015, the Rams’ remaking of the line came out of an era of failure for that unit. This remaking is coming out of an era of unquestionable success.

Which leads me to my next question--what could the plan be for him in the position group?
I think that’s going to be up to Edwards and Rams offensive line coach Aaron Kromer. Because there’s no immediate slot for him, Edwards can just soak up the tutelage from the coaching staff and Whitworth and take the opportunities that come to him.

Take someone like Austin Blythe, for example. Blythe was a seventh-round pick for the Indianapolis Colts in 2016 who joined the Rams a year later. As a backup in 2017, Blythe vacillated between different positions in support. A year later, and Blythe was tabbed to take over at left guard when Jamon Brown had to serve a two-game suspension. Blythe’s play was sufficient for him to maintain the starting role thereafter. His more natural position might well be at center, but he might continue to serve the Rams best on the center’s right side.

That might be the kind of path forward for Edwards. To commit himself to the grind of the background. Of training camp and preseason and practices and preparation in hopes for an opportunity in the future that might arise to make sure that if (when?) it comes, he’s ready to make the most of his shot.

What instances or development could propel him up the depth chart?
Injury first and foremost, but that’s always the case. I think though that the more natural, and hopeful, progression is that timeline I mentioned above. That he could impress the coaching staff over the course of 2019 without the playing time to back it up that leads him into 2020 and beyond with a chance to compete for regular snaps.

Whitworth will be gone next year. Blythe hardly has his position locked down and is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent next offseason. And who knows how Noteboom and Allen or whoever gets the left guard and center spots will perform in terms of long-term viability there.

There will be opportunities for promotion. Whether or not Edwards is the beneficiary of them will likely depend on how he looks in private to the staff.

So another former Badger, Rob Havenstein, inked an extension last season with the organization. How has he been utilized, and will he likely lock down the right tackle spot in 2019?
Yeah, Hav is locked in long-term as the starting right tackle and for good reason. He’s been very good since the Rams took him in the second round of the 2015 draft. Contractually, he’s a Ram through the 2022 season, though the Rams could truncate the deal as early as the 2021 offseason if they so choose with little penalty.

The big question for him is internal. Whitworth’s retirement will be a huge marker for the line both for his on-field contributions but also in the locker room. He’s a natural leader. Not only did he earn that right over the years and early on with the Rams, but (perhaps more importantly) he’s proved he deserved it ever since. His departure is going to leave a hole that’s bigger to fill than just playing left tackle.

Barring a free agency replacement next year, Havenstein is going to be the senior presence on the Rams’ offensive line in 2020 when they move into the new stadium in Inglewood. That’s not to suggest he needs to start making major media appearances or be the kind of vocal presence that so many attribute to “leadership.” But veteran presence matters. Rookies and young depth coming on board in the years to come are going to look to Hav for stability and guidance. That’s just unavoidable.

So while the line as a whole undergoes a transformation, Hav’s career is going through one as well. He’s no longer the young upstart. He’s heading toward a mid-career peak with more responsibilities as a team leader to come as he heads into his fifth season.
 

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The best way to draft is to already have a set roster and draft for the future. Then your rookies learn for a year or two. They should be ready to step in full time when you lose players. Rinse and repeat every year and you should have a solid team most years.
 

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The best way to draft is to already have a set roster and draft for the future. Then your rookies learn for a year or two. They should be ready to step in full time when you lose players. Rinse and repeat every year and you should have a solid team most years.

Ideally. At least for mid and late round rookies. In the NFL it is hard not to play higher picks from the get-go, since they are rarer and expensive. Of course, maybe that's why the Rams keep trading their higher picks.
 

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Things could be different if Whitworth plays in 2020. If he doesn't slow down this year it is possible. Lot of hype will be coming with the new stadium and the last year before the new CBA. Although, he could be too expensive in 2020. He could do a really nice discount for one more shot.

The Rams should be good even if Whitworth does retire. By adding Evans and Edwards the Rams let them compete this year and will be ready next year. Evans could have a really good shot at replacing Blythe this year. Looking foward to camp reports on the offensive line.
 

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Evans could have a really good shot at replacing Blythe this year. Looking foward to camp reports on the offensive line.

I doubt any of the rookies replace Blythe, at least at the start of the season. If Blythe struggles - which I don't expect - he could be replaced and moved to the bench as a game day active to backup guard and center, with maybe Edwards becoming the game day active for tackle (and Evans becoming the starting RG)
 

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I doubt any of the rookies replace Blythe, at least at the start of the season. If Blythe struggles - which I don't expect - he could be replaced and moved to the bench as a game day active to backup guard and center, with maybe Edwards becoming the game day active for tackle (and Evans becoming the starting RG)

You could be right but, I think it will be open competition at RG. If Evans picks up the system then he has a shot either early or later in the season. Blythe showed some flaws last year. It is good for the Rams to have them compete. Time will tell.
 

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Training is going to be a battle and not just with the drafted offensive linemen with the killer E's in Evans & Edwards, but I'm anxious to watch the kid from Villanova in UDRFA Brandon Hitner. Rams most likely keep 8 OL on the roster so at this point barring injury Whit, Boom, Allen, Blythe, Havenstein, Demby, Evans & Edwards seem like the elite 8, however, many things can change and that is why I personally enjoy watching preseason games, not for the purity of the game, the evaluation process and getting to watch players you ordinarily don't get to see.
 

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Should be some good camp competition. Without the ability to observe or judge how things shake out right now, my best guess is that for 2020 starters, as predicted, Noteboom will replace Whitworth at LT, Demby will move in as LG, Allen remains at Center, Evans replaces RG Blythe's loss thru free agency, and Hav sticks at RT. Edwards will become our main swing OT, and the Rams will again draft two new offensive linemen for depth. Free agency will provide should someone falter. jmo.
 
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Things could be different if Whitworth plays in 2020. If he doesn't slow down this year it is possible. Lot of hype will be coming with the new stadium and the last year before the new CBA. Although, he could be too expensive in 2020. He could do a really nice discount for one more shot.

The Rams should be good even if Whitworth does retire. By adding Evans and Edwards the Rams let them compete this year and will be ready next year. Evans could have a really good shot at replacing Blythe this year. Looking foward to camp reports on the offensive line.
If the Rams put together an excellent plan this season & show they are seriously trying to keep him healthy & rested they might get him to re-up for one more last time in 2020.

I doubt any of the rookies replace Blythe, at least at the start of the season. If Blythe struggles - which I don't expect - he could be replaced and moved to the bench as a game day active to backup guard and center, with maybe Edwards becoming the game day active for tackle (and Evans becoming the starting RG)
I still see Blythe as the weak link as a starter @ RG when it comes down to the home stretch. Rams have some serious competition @ OG.

OG Prospects
Jamil Demby
Booby Evans
David Edwards
Brandon Hitner
Chandler Brewer
Jeremiah Kolone
Aaron Neary

Training is going to be a battle and not just with the drafted offensive linemen with the killer E's in Evans & Edwards, but I'm anxious to watch the kid from Villanova in UDRFA Brandon Hitner. Rams most likely keep 8 OL on the roster so at this point barring injury Whit, Boom, Allen, Blythe, Havenstein, Demby, Evans & Edwards seem like the elite 8, however, many things can change and that is why I personally enjoy watching preseason games, not for the purity of the game, the evaluation process and getting to watch players you ordinarily don't get to see.
I also see Hitner as the big possible surprise @ OG. I leaning towards nine OL'ers on the master roster.

Should be some good camp competition. Without the ability to observe or judge how things shake out right now, my best guess is that for 2020 starters, as predicted, Noteboom will replace Whitworth at LT, Demby will move in as LG, Allen remains at Center, Evans replaces RG Blythe's loss thru free agency, and Hav sticks at RT. Edwards will become our main swing OT, and the Rams will again draft two new offensive linemen for depth. Free agency will provide should someone falter. jmo.
I agree with you with the exception ...being a few surprises entering the picture @ RG other than Evans myself.
 
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/29/nfl-rams-brian-allen-joseph-noteboom-starters-otas/
Rams are 'counting on' Joseph Noteboom, Brian Allen as starters
By: Cameron DaSilva | May 29, 2019 10:35 am ET

There weren’t many offensive lines better than the Los Angeles Rams’ unit last season, if any at all. The Rams won the Offensive Line of the Year award for their play up front in 2018, led by Andrew Whitworth, Rodger Saffold and Rob Havenstein.

Three of the five starters will be back in the mix next season, but two key players are no longer in the picture. Saffold signed with the Titans in free agency and John Sullivan was cut, opening the door for two second-year players to step in as starters.

Joseph Noteboom and Brian Allen were drafted last year to be future cogs on the offensive line, which is exactly what they’re expected to be in 2019. Noteboom will likely step in at left guard, while Allen will replace Sullivan at center.

It appears there won’t be much competition at either position despite the Rams adding Bobby Evans and David Edwards in the draft, and also having Jamil Demby on the roster.

“There are some changes. We’ve got a little bit more continuity on the offensive side of the ball, but we’ve got two guys we’re counting on starting up front that need to do a great job of implementing themselves into the language, the vernacular, with Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom. You want to continue to see guys take steps in the right direction,” McVay said Tuesday.

Evans and Edwards were both tackles in college, but after the draft, O-line coach Aaron Kromer said both would work at tackle and guard. Those comments seemed to open the door for the rookies to potentially compete with Noteboom at left guard, or entice the Rams to plug one in at right guard and move Austin Blythe to center (if Allen struggled).

That may not be the case now as the Rams seem set on sticking with Noteboom and Allen inside, barring some real difficulty from either player in camp or the preseason.
 

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I still see Blythe as the weak link as a starter @ RG when it comes down to the home stretch. Rams have some serious competition @ OG.
OG Prospects
Jamil Demby
Booby Evans
David Edwards
Justice Powers
Jeremiah Kolone
Aaron Neary

The Rams did cut Justice Powers recently and many including myself are being tough on Blythe because of the Super Bowl and his size, but he was tremendous against the Cowboys and had no issues against the Saints.

Now some feel David Edwards has more of a future at LT because he has great feet and length is overrated at that position, which Bobby Evans has, but IMHO, I like Edwards to push Blythe at RG and if he unseats him, it gives the Rams a huge offensive line again with Allen being the exception, plus, it makes Blythe first player off the bench, which again would be an asset...So if Blythe losing his starting position at RG, my bet is Edwards, however, highly doubtful in the beginning of the season.


The Los Angeles Rams opened up a roster spot on Tuesday, waiving undrafted free agent Justice Powers. He signed with the Rams following the 2019 NFL draft as one of 22 UDFA signings by Los Angeles.

Powers played right tackle for UAB, earning first-team All-Conference USA honors last season. He started 13 games in 2018 and had 26 in his collegiate career, all of which came since the start of 2017.

At 6-foot-3, 295 pounds, his position was yet to be determined in the NFL. He doesn’t necessarily have the size to remain at tackle in the NFL, but it was unknown if he could hold up strength-wise inside at guard.


https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/21/rams-roster-justice-powers-waive/
 

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"At 6-foot-3, 295 pounds, his position was yet to be determined in the NFL. He doesn’t necessarily have the size to remain at tackle in the NFL, but it was unknown if he could hold up strength-wise inside at guard"

just not big enough for the NFL
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"At 6-foot-3, 295 pounds, his position was yet to be determined in the NFL. He doesn’t necessarily have the size to remain at tackle in the NFL, but it was unknown if he could hold up strength-wise inside at guard"

just not big enough for the NFL
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Shows how the game has changed. Hall of Fame OT Anthony Munoz was listed at 278 pounds.
 

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I honestly think that if we're going with nine offensive linemen, it'll be Whitworth, Noteboom, Allen, Blythe (yes, I have Blythe as a starter), Havenstein, Demby, Evans, Edwards, and - drum roll please - ...Vitas Hrynkiewicz. My thoughts? We need a backup center, and since Demby, Evans, and Edwards can't play it, while Hrynkiewicz can, I think that he makes the cut. I don't trust Aaron Neary's off-the-field problem. I know McVay vouched for him, but I can't get DUIs out of my mind.
 

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The best way to draft is to already have a set roster and draft for the future. Then your rookies learn for a year or two. They should be ready to step in full time when you lose players.
I think this is particularly true on the offensive line.

Because of the learning curve involved, it's fairly rare for a rookie to step right in and play at a high level.
The offensive line is very often overlooked for how complex it is.
 

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Shows how the game has changed. Hall of Fame OT Anthony Munoz was listed at 278 pounds.

I remember when Dennis Harrah was nicknaned "Hercules" because he was considered huge for a OG at 6-5 265...

The starting center back then was Doug Smith, a Pro Bowler and he was 255 lbs.

I looked at my old football cards from the 70's and early 80's and a lot of interior OL were in the 245-255 range and OTs we're 265-275 lb range.
 

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I think Noteboom should have the inside shot for LG and later LT after Whit retires. Now this year will be the best test yet for him, but I don’t get the whole Edwards narrative that he might already be a better option than Boom to replace Whitworth?

Where does that come from? It smacks of people liking the shiny new toy, syndrome with Edwards. Some say that Noteboom hasn’t done anything? Well, he is a good teammate and I have never heard anyone question his work ethic, nor his intelligence. When did he have a chance to shine last year by pushing a starter from his role? He did do spot work in games and did not do a bad job. Yet, He wasn’t pushing Whitworth, Saffold, or Havenstein out as starters.

Coaches never seemed inclined for him to test at Center or RG and that they were grooming him for LG and LT and was the back up for those two positions in 2018. Edwards might be a 5th round gem, but let’s see the guy in pads first and in competition
 

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I want to see Edwards cycled in at RG next to his homeboy Havenstein. IMO that's gonna be his initial role: depth on the right side.

From there I just hope he shows well and pushes Blythe. There is no way the Rams would want all three interior positions being inexperienced of course, but we are witnessing a reload of the OL and it's not gonna be finished when our two second year OL settle in at C & LG.
 

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IMO Edwards can make the final 53 if Bobby Evans can win the RG starting spot. Then Edwards can compete for the swing tackle position. The RG must be a good run blocker, something Edwards has struggled with in college. He needs so much work, that Havenstein taking him under his wing will be big for Edwards. Whether it will be enough remains to be seen. If Evans is the swing tackle this year Edwards will have an uphill battle to make the 53 man active roster.

Frankly, I think Bobby Evans has a chance to win the RG spot this year moving to LG when Noteboom moves to LT. But Evans faces real competition at RG with Blythe and Demby. IMO Demby more so than Blythe has the best shot at this point at RG. He's the more natural OG and has a year to acclimate and develop in the NFL. One of Edwards problems playing OG is his length. 6'6" is a bit tall for a OG where gaining leverage is a requirement. Ultimately he may simply end up being a swing tackle long term. Blythe beat out Demby simply because he could also play center. If Demby has shown he can backup at center I think Blythe might not make this squad. He's an average player at best and was often over matched at RG.

After looking closely at the Rams draft I think Evans was taken with the anticipation of him eventually taking over LG with Noteboom at LT. I think Edwards was taken as an eventual swing tackle.