And? That changes exactly nothing about what I said about the mentality keeping Holt out of the HoF.
Fitzgerald was better than Holt, so there's that. Kuechly was an All Pro seven times.
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And? That changes exactly nothing about what I said about the mentality keeping Holt out of the HoF.
Fitzgerald was better than Holt, so there's that. Kuechly was an All Pro seven times.
It means what you said has no merit.
That wasn't my argument, but no, no he wasn't.
Wrong, but hey, keep doing you. I'm arguing the voters' mentality that's keeping Holt out of the HoF. You, and several others, are arguing the fan perspective.
Yes it was. Fitzgerald's ability elevated him above his team's underperformance moreso than Holt.
Lmao. K.
What the?
Horrible point.
Besides, only 52 of 173 games in his career were with Kurt Warner??
There's no mentality that the teams Holt played on weren't good enough. Four of his teammates from those teams are already in the Hall.
Three 1000 yard seasons over his last nine. That's a hell of an elevation.
This is the worst viewpoint I have heard. This guy is a complete waste of time.
I'm in Holt's corner here. He's penalized by association of GSoT and the sheer number of weapons and frankly the fatigue around so many of them being enshrined. But he was felt day one, a big game addition that put that group over the top. There was no GSoT without Holt.
Hope he gets in. Also the wideout position backup is fucking absurd.
Hope he gets in. Also the wideout position backup is fucking absurd.
lmao, what?! Kurt was the sole starter in Arizona for only two years, 2008 and 2009. On top of that, Fitzgerland only played his rookie season before Warner arrived, so it’s not like he spent years languishing in obscurity then Kurt showed up and boom the light turned on.
Some of you guys either choose to remember the past incorrectly or simply just have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s like all the clowns who talk about how Brady won the Super Bowl in his rookie year. No, no he did not.
As for the media “hating” Kurt, a couple guys did, and that fucking slob Bernie Miklasz was one of the biggest of them, (I don’t think that guy ever wrote a single thing without some Rams brass’s DNA rifle in his mouth) but it’s not like it was a massive movement. Most members of the media seem to love Kurt.
I love Kurt, he was my favourite Ram until a man named Aaron Donald came along, but the idea he was solely responsible for Fitzgerald’s success is asinine.
I knew Fitz would get in before Holt. I’m curious if any other WRs had more votes than Holt.
Again, nobody knew who Fitzgerald was before Kurt took over in 2007. Didn't say he was a bad player before that, I said Kurt made him a superstar.
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I have nothing against Fitzgerald, and by all accounts, he's a great person as well as a worthy HOFer.
But Holt, Wayne, and S-Jax aren't worthy? And that asshole Vinatieri, is? Really?
It's a complete and utter joke, and not a good one, either.
But Holt, Wayne, and S-Jax aren't worthy? And that asshole Vinatieri, is? Really?
It's a complete and utter joke, and not a good one, either.
Wait, Vinatieri is NOT a Hall Of Famer???
If this is true then ZERO Placekickers should be in the Hall.
Really going to justify electing a Cheatriot/Colt placekicker who benefitted from Brady and Manning to get his stats over Holt or Wayne? Or a compiler of stats - even through many shitty years - like Gore over S-Jax?
Honestly, that's just as fucked as the voters this year.