Havenstein out vs. Miami / Avila & Jackson in 21 day window

[Merlin]

Blow Noteboob.

 

[OntarioRam]

Yeesh.

View: https://x.com/bgrisaktst/status/1856470984699592792?s=46

That is absolutely brutal...

I am a huge McVay critic, but what do you expect any coach to dial up on offense when every single offensive lineman is getting blown up on almost every single play? Nobody can pass or run reliably like that. If you want to attack him for deciding to insert Avila and Jackson the same game, I guess, with already bringing in a new RT to replace Hav, fair enough. I certainly expressed those concerns will before the game.

EDIT - I give Jackson 1 more game at C against a "lesser" New England squad. If he does not look good, then I've seen enough, as he also looked bad pre-injury. The dude has never played C well at the NFL level. Call a spade a spade. We have two LGs that are not able to play elsewhere on the line. It is a huge problem cap allocation wise, but don't drag the team down with you as a result shoving round pegs into square holes, when Limmer is a viable option. Hopefully though with another week of practice beside he linemates, things turn around.

 

[jrry32]

If Rob is out longer, can Avila play RT? I feel like the combo of A. Jackson-J. Jackson-Limmer-Dotson-Avila might be better than A. Jackson-Avila-J. Jackson-Dotson-Noteboom.

 

[OntarioRam]

If Rob is out longer, can Avila play RT? I feel like the combo of A. Jackson-J. Jackson-Limmer-Dotson-Avila might be better than A. Jackson-Avila-J. Jackson-Dotson-Noteboom.

I hope the Rams are at least testing this out in practice. Avila played a bit of RT in college so maybe it is a option. But who knows. He played a ton of C in college - some scouts considering it his natural position - and apparently looked really bad there, necessitating the switch to Jonah Jackson at C and putting Avila back at LG.

 

[OntarioRam]

you ran to this forum mid-game to gloat about the rams playing poorly? yikes.

Nah, I was posting in the GDT, so I was around, and they were so bad it reminded me of this post so I circled back to it. The post was not intended to be a gloat. Believe me, the Rams' o-line looking like amateurs it is not something I want to gloat about.

 

[Merlin]

If Rob is out longer, can Avila play RT? I feel like the combo of A. Jackson-J. Jackson-Limmer-Dotson-Avila might be better than A. Jackson-Avila-J. Jackson-Dotson-Noteboom.

Maybe so and not a bad suggestion. But I'd rather they get Avila back into good form. Feels like the center move screwed with his head a bit so I'd be worried about RT due to him flipping his feet.

Prefer they give McClendon a look. Just stick a TE on his hip and keep the call sheet balanced.

 

[CGI_Ram]

If Rob is out longer, can Avila play RT? I feel like the combo of A. Jackson-J. Jackson-Limmer-Dotson-Avila might be better than A. Jackson-Avila-J. Jackson-Dotson-Noteboom.

That gets what should be our best 5 on the field… But it’s more shuffling and necessitates another shuffle when Havenstein comes back.

 

[So Ram]

That gets what should be our best 5 on the field… But it’s more shuffling and necessitates another shuffle when Havenstein comes back.

Don’t understand the signing of J. Jackson.This was WHY I’VE ASKED the question.

You replace one of your BEST DRAFT PICKS & Players in 2023 ?
What’s the LOGIC ? Play Steve Avila at Center ?

Just don’t understand why you’d F- A GOOD thing up.

 

[So Ram]

Is McClendon that bad ? Limmer sure has played well for a rookie.

 

[Psycho_X]

If Rob is out longer, can Avila play RT? I feel like the combo of A. Jackson-J. Jackson-Limmer-Dotson-Avila might be better than A. Jackson-Avila-J. Jackson-Dotson-Noteboom.

I don't know, an interesting thought though. At this point I'd rather have McClendon than Noteboom and that's not saying much.

 

[Merlin]

Don’t understand the signing of J. Jackson.This was WHY I’VE ASKED the question.

You replace one of your BEST DRAFT PICKS & Players in 2023 ?
What’s the LOGIC ? Play Steve Avila at Center ?

Just don’t understand why you’d F- A GOOD thing up.

This past FA window needs to be analyzed to fix where they went wrong. Only one of the signings was a good fit. The rest are not what the Rams needed. Even Curl. We didn't need an overpriced box safety.

 

[Classic Rams]

Leg lifts strengthen the ligaments and muscles around the ankle and knees. Don't get me wrong I know injuries happen to the best conditioned players but the Rams have an injury issue with their big men. And the coaching staff needs to do something about it. If it was just this season I wouldn't be making this take.
So we can just agree to disagree.

Not sure exactly what leg lifts are.... but I've done Leg Extensions since HS. Within the last 10 years stories have come out that have said that those are actually bad for the knees because of the stress on the joints, but I've never ever had bad knees. And I still do them on leg day, pretty heavy weight, not the whole stack though, but I don't go all the way under anymore keeping the strain off the knees that way. Played football in HS; pickup basketball until my late 30's and nothing but a couple of sprained ankles... only from stepping on someone's foot. But saying all of that, I never had 300 pound athletes fall on me or bend me awkwardly so I'm pretty sure that's the difference with many of the NFL injuries - heavy collisions from grown man athletes - no matter how strong or in shape these guys are. The non contact injuries they get... unexplainable. Maybe from prior stress on the area?

And I just read that Noteboom has another ankle injury and may not play vs the Cheats. Just doesn't surprise me anymore. Time to cut bait already.

 

[So Ram]

This past FA window needs to be analyzed to fix where they went wrong. Only one of the signings was a good fit. The rest are not what the Rams needed. Even Curl. We didn't need an overpriced box safety.

Let’s hope The Rams can get it together.It’s SAD though that they spent on Dotson & Jackson.The offensive line has struggled (

 

[Londoner]

Noteboom has another ankle injury and may not play

Finally, some good news!

 

[Ramstien]

As an old coach once said, "it's not about your ability it's about your availability". Please forgive me if I have used this quote before when referencing Noteboom.

 

[PARAM]

This past FA window needs to be analyzed to fix where they went wrong. Only one of the signings was a good fit. The rest are not what the Rams needed. Even Curl. We didn't need an overpriced box safety.

Shouldn't we wait until the autopsy is needed, if it's needed at all?

 

[Soul Surfer]

As an old coach once said, "it's not about your ability it's about your availability". Please forgive me if I have used this quote before when referencing Noteboom.

And even when he's available i have been less than impressed.
He's like an on field retiree

 

[Soul Surfer]

Not sure exactly what leg lifts are.

And I just read that Noteboom has another ankle injury and may not play against the Cheats.

I think that increases our chance of winning.

Time to cut bait already.

Well past time.

 

[Soul Surfer]

It’s SAD though that they spent on Dotson & Jackson.

Kevin Dotson is doing an excellent job, considering

The offensive line has struggled

Not because of Dotson.

 

[bubbaramfan]

I agree putting in three guys on the OL who haven't played in half a season was not smart, but I understand that time is running short and coaches wanted to get these guys playing time to knock the rust off. And indeed the rust showed. I would keep playing them and trying Avia at RT sounds like a good idea. Noteboob is done IMHO. And JJackson is getting there.