Hard Knocks 2022: Detroit Lions

[badnews]

First overall picks are not underdogs.

They are once they are in a Jeff Fisher offense. They are once they are declared a bust during their first training camp by the media.

Goff was an underdog at Cal and he was an underdog going into McVays second season.

I'm not sure there's any rule saying a guy can't be an underdog after getting picked first. It's just relative to what he is able to accomplish vs expectations. If he's not expected to ever be elite, as a 1st pick, he's an underdog.

 

[Loyal]

First overall picks are not underdogs.

I think the 0-7 start and firing of HC Fisher made him an underdog. Few gave Jared a chance before Sean McVay showed up.

 

[majrleaged]

First overall picks are not underdogs.

You know, blanket statements like that do not ever work. I have a bunch of standard blanket statements to prove my point, but that would just get us into the shit.

 

[sloramfan]

the lions are absolutely my new next favorite team to root for..

i'm in with badnews... goff is my new favorite ex-ram to root for without a doubt...

we lead the league in O mcvays first year, then on to the SB....

after that the wheels fell off...

we struggled to 9-7...

the next year, we make the playoffs. but a lot of people were blaming goff for not being even a capable QB...

sorry guys, but that's the year i saw a line that was leaking like a sieve....

no qb is succesfull under those circumstances... none

am i glad we got staff?

does that question need to be asked???

my initial reaction to the trade was, yes i know he's an upgrade, but looking at age, and the possibility of improving the o-line, and coaching goff up...i'm thinking, we might be losing this trade in the long run...

anywho....

we won one, and let's go win two more... history needs to be made....

go rams

slo

 

[Billy Baroo]

You know, blanket statements like that do not ever work. I have a bunch of standard blanket statements to prove my point, but that would just get us into the shit.

That’s fine, I stand behind it though. He’s a #1 pick who’s started a SB and makes $35 mil per, yet he’s still an underdog?? Not for me.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

Goff, Brockers, Holmes, Aubrey Pleasant. . . Ya I followed on to Lions being my second team to root on. Watched all their games last season and have followed them throughout the offseason heading into this year.

 

[Shuie3225]

If he's not expected to ever be elite, as a 1st pick, he's an underdog.

Think about this sentence lol. Of course he was expected to be elite, he was the #1 pick in the draft. He has failed to live up to that expectation. Is he a bust? No he's an average to good QB. But when you're the #1 pick you're expected to be elite obviously.

 

[dang]

Goff, Brockers, Holmes, Aubrey Pleasant. . . Ya I followed on to Lions being my second team to root on. Watched all their games last season and have followed them throughout the offseason heading into this year.

Reynolds and I bet a Rams cut or 2 this year.

 

[badnews]

Think about this sentence lol. Of course he was expected to be elite, he was the #1 pick in the draft. He has failed to live up to that expectation. Is he a bust? No he's an average to good QB. But when you're the #1 pick you're expected to be elite obviously.

Of course he was expected to be elite with that pick. But he wasn't expected to win at Cal and he was written off as an idiot in the media (rookie hard knocks), as a failure of a pick (couldn't beat out Keenum) to start the season and a bust to end it. (0-7)

You act like I'm unaware of what I wrote or whatever lol my point doesn't change - at Cal, during his rookie season and as a Lion, Goff has been an underdog.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Think about this sentence lol. Of course he was expected to be elite, he was the #1 pick in the draft. He has failed to live up to that expectation. Is he a bust? No he's an average to good QB. But when you're the #1 pick you're expected to be elite obviously.

Many people said Goff and wentz weren't worthy of the top 2 picks before the draft. That Winston and mariota were so much better than them. Let's not make out like Goff was thought of as a sure fire franchise qb. The media couldn't wait to put the boot in.

.

 

[Faceplant]

1. I too will root for Goff and the Kitty Cats. I think a lot of their coaches are buffoons, but the players are likeable.

2. Dear lord I hope this doesn't turn into a carbon copy of every other thread that has Goff's name in it.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

Reynolds and I bet a Rams cut or 2 this year.

I may be remembering wrong but I feel like Lions were the team that snatched Juju Hughes as well.

 

[VegasRam]

1. I too will root for Goff and the Kitty Cats. I think a lot of their coaches are buffoons, but the players are likeable.

2. Dear lord I hope this doesn't turn into a carbon copy of every other thread that has Goff's name in it.

Well quit stirring the fucking pot then.

 

[Psycho_X]

Goff comes off sounding smarter than the sunset conversation at least lol. Looking forward to watching the Lions this season. Might actually try and catch every game that isn't on at same time as Rams.


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