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Can we not just close this thread out the man is no longer a Ram and bad taste or not why do we need to hear/see his name anymore were 2 years into a better culture and a winning vibe why bring his vibe back to the board
 

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f he hadn't stayed those last 2 years there is no Mcvay as rams head coach more then Likley
So, we're supposed to credit Fisher for tacking on two more years of mediocrity, which resulted in a pure timing move?
Pretty wild stretch, if you ask me.

Can we not just close this thread out the man is no longer a Ram and bad taste or not why do we need to hear/see his name anymore were 2 years into a better culture and a winning vibe why bring his vibe back to the board
He is part of Rams history... so, as best I can tell, he's fair game for fans to discuss. Of course it's gonna be negative because of what McVay exposed him to be. But it's our right to discuss him within the boundaries of the board.

Should we never discuss any of the bad teams? Simply put any discussions about them in "out of bounds"? And I seriously doubt that talking about Fisher changes the overall winning vibe of this team/board.

I'm probably done with this thread now... but, should any other Fisher threads appear, I know I have the right to voice my thoughts and opinions.
 

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Can we not just close this thread out the man is no longer a Ram and bad taste or not why do we need to hear/see his name anymore were 2 years into a better culture and a winning vibe why bring his vibe back to the board
It’s not a big deal. I used to carry water for Fisher, and I’m not offended by people ragging him now. He turned a moribund team into a respectable team with a feared defense. Unfortunately, he never did grasp the importance of putting innovative minds in charge of the offense or the pitfalls of signing players who were also underachieving former players of his. Now we see (and he sees) why that’s important.

He probably could have been more successful if he got out of his own way, because as a coach - in the purest sense of the word - he got dudes to play hard and buy in. He just needed less control of the things with which he was the weakest. Like McVay and the defense now. Fisher learned something, we learned something, and the Organization soldiers on. It’s all good.

So I don’t regret his time here. It was both excruciating and entertaining. More of the former than the latter, of course, but at least something good has come of it. He drafted our QB, our offensive player of the year, and our defensive player of the year. Dude can’t bake, but he certainly knows how to gather ingredients.
 

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I'm pretty squarely where @-X- is on this. I also don't see a reason to close down the thread as I'm not one into superstition. And hell no I haven't worn the same shirt under the same Shane Conlan jersey every Sunday since the season started. You have me mistaken for someone else.

I'm not sure why Fish was so pigheaded on getting in a good or innovative offensive mind but in the end, we're Rams fans. We are battle tested by not only this but the years of the Ziggy/Shaw circus show. And here we are at 7-0. Pretty sweet - don't yuh think?
 

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Boy, ain't that the truth.
And that's the worst part.

I wonder if Fisher contemplates now... what could have been.

If he had just sought out opinions on how to improve that offense. Bring in creative minds (like Vermiel was "forced" to do).

I'm glad a hell we are where we are... but annoyed at the same time, knowing - with an open mind - we might be in our fourth (or more) winning season.
 

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And that's the worst part.

I wonder if Fisher contemplates now... what could have been.

If he had just sought out opinions on how to improve that offense. Bring in creative minds (like Vermiel was "forced" to do).

I'm glad a hell we are where we are... but annoyed at the same time, knowing - with an open mind - we might be in our fourth (or more) winning season.
I agree.
What I find frustrating too is that not only did Fisher not bring in someone to "own" the offense, like McVay did with the D, from all reports from Camp pointed to Fisher being right in the middle of all the offense.
I believe Fisher thought HE knew how to run a modern day offense, that HE knew better than anyone.
So yeah, frustrating indeed.
But...
End of the day, the end justifies the means...
So we are where we are because we went thru what we went thru.
Just glad we are where we are now!

** And enjoy the heck out of Fisher jokes... Lol
 

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If the Fisher jokes aren't attacking and personal have at them. Humor is good for the board and no one needs to take it personal for him. I think he has got the message and will be better in his next assignment. Maybe even back in So. Cal at his alma mater.
 

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Dammit - I forgot to celebrate Jeff Fisher day yesterday
It's today since it's a 17 game season...even Fish couldn't pull off 7-9 now....unless he got fired before last game of season
 

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I get this is all for laughs, but NONE of this would have been possible had Fisher not stopped the bleeding. He helped Les build a solid foundation here while he got rid of the training wheels.

Love it or hate it, it's fact.
This many years later and I still don't get why he couldn't turn the corner. Was it all Bradford's injury in '13 that derailed everything?

What was it...
 

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This many years later and I still don't get why he couldn't turn the corner. Was it all Bradford's injury in '13 that derailed everything?

What was it...
A huge issue was him not evolving with the times offensively and too much loyalty to staff. His offensive coordinators were dog sh*t and often were not just behind the times but years late to what was going on in the league.

I still have a soft spot for the guy though since he made the Rams competitive again but perhaps more importantly, instilled a mentality that we could kick other people's asses which hadn't been around in decades.
 

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in before da lock :D
...but, in all fairness, I could at least *watch* the Rams again.
yet, we all saw the night + day difference with McVay's 1st game at the helm. Rams became immediate contenders.
thanks for everything, Jeff!
 

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It's a real fucking shame they don't have the music video for Microscope by Goodbye June on YouTube anymore. Jeff Fisher was in it (as an antagonistic sheriff), and he was actually a very good actor for it.

Overall, I think he would be a great guy to have a beer and shoot the shit with. I'm just happy McVay's our coach now.
 

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hired OCs who had no experience. He was too insecure to hire a real one.
That's exactly what I felt and in my opinion when he hired Rob bora
Instead of someone more qualified.
Another way to look at it is none of the top OC candidates
wanted to work under Fisher and his sinking boat,