Gurley and Anderson

[payote75]

Hey guys congrats on our reg season now the real grind begins!!!!!

My question to you all is how would you guys use Gurley and Anderson to our advantage in the same back field or not against each of our possible playoff foes. I'm curious cause right now I see us playing the Bears and cramming int down there throat with Anderson and using Gurley on pass routes for "what teams are giving us" would be a good formula. Like your thoughts though.

 

[Picked4td]

personally have always been a fan of using a good route running RB out wide like a wr with another capable RB behind the QB. I think it makes for some really good plays, and with Kupp out and neither Reynolds nor Everett lighting it up in his place, maybe we will see that with the Rams.

just imagine using Gurley for one of those quick screens or jet sweeps rather than an easier to tackle guy like woods or cooks.

 

[fearsomefour]

I wouldn't change the offense to get a power back in with Gurley.
Anderson allows the Rams to spell Gurley and not change anything.
That is the biggest thing.

 

[Jacobarch]

Anderson gives us a little more power running

 

[payote75]

I wouldn't change the offense to get a power back in with Gurley.
Anderson allows the Rams to spell Gurley and not change anything.
That is the biggest thing.

You don't have to necessarily change the offense but adding some additional plays for adjustment sake I'm all for and it could create a problem for the Bears jet sweeps Gurley with a backer on him our offense was horrific against the Bears so some tweaking and some stuff that teams haven't seen is what the playoffs are all about obviously execution and turnovers being of utmost importance. And perhaps play some defense lol

 

[SierraRam]

I love how CJ moves the pile. I have complete confidence in our short yardage game, and he will be an bruising change of pace when spelling Gurley. I like Brown, but we’ve upgraded our run game.

 

[Billy Baroo]

I think ground a pound will work well v Saints to keep their offense off field but v Bears we will need to mix in the pass. Play option will be even better with two headed RBs.

 

[badnews]

All I would do is maybe design a couple variations of a play with Anderson and Gurley on the field.

Other than that I would use Anderson to spell Gurley as well as some run packages that get Anderson carries in all 4 quarters.

 

[jrry32]

I'd love to see us occasionally put Gurley at WR with Anderson at HB. It's going to force the defense to make some difficult personnel decisions. Plus, being able to use that jet motion with Gurley will open up some big plays. But for the most part, I'd use Gurley at HB with Anderson spelling him where needed. I might consider using C.J. for 3rd and 1 type situations because I think he has an advantage there.

 

[TexasRam]

The Bears are #1 in the NFL vs the run and #7 vs the pass.

A simple answer like shove it down their throats and run the ball is probably a recipe for disaster.

If you rewatch our game vs the Bears you will notice 2 interceptions came as a result of Goff being hit as he was throwing and thus the passes were altered. A third interception came on an end of half hail marry which contextually shouldn’t count towards evaluating our pass game vs the Bears.

Our pass game can beat the bears but the timing of the ball coming out of
Goff’s hands needs to speed up. You also have to help Sully with Hicks and also double Mack. I can see a split RB set for this exact purpose.

The Bears are not that good on the road.

If we play our game and throw the Bears pass rush off with quick passes, counters and rollouts, and block the correct pass rushers we could score on them.

Don’t get me wrong, I would try to run the ball, but if it’s going backwards I try to beat them through the air with the right adjustments.

 

[TSFH Fan]

Eh, imo, they could get both TG and CJ in together without changing much of anything if they wanted to. I'm just not sure if there's any real advantage. If the defense is allowing the Rams to dink and dunk with the regular offense, like the Bears did, the defense would probably allow the Rams to dink and dunk with TG and CJ in together. As for the running game, the Bears kept Gurley in check with their base defense. I'm not sure how adding another RB to a formation would improve things against them -- a 2 HB offense would not make our OLinemen physically stronger.

Anyhow, as for implementation without changing much, the Rams could just repurpose some of the old Tavon plays and stick in CJ where they used Tavon, or swap CJ for TG and put TG in TA's old role. For example, they could add all kinds of window dressing, like add a fake pitch, or have the motion guy reverse direction on the snap, etc. to this play or make it a passing play:

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[“Turbo set!”]

WE NEED to run the ball a lot vs. the Bears. It doesn't matter if we frequently go three and out. We tried passing the ball frequently vs. the Bears and it was a disaster. Our o-line can't not pass block consistently enough. McVay learned his lesson after that game. This offensive line is tired. Pass blocking takes a lot more effort.

There isn't any option but to run the ball more than we did earlier in the season.

I am confident in being able to beat the Bears assuming we face them. It just takes the right game plan.

 

[jrry32]

Eh, imo, they could get both TG and CJ in together without changing much of anything if they wanted to. I'm just not sure if there's any real advantage. If the defense is allowing the Rams to dink and dunk with the regular offense, like the Bears did, the defense would probably allow the Rams to dink and dunk with TG and CJ in together. As for the running game, the Bears kept Gurley in check with their base defense. I'm not sure how adding another RB to a formation would improve things against them -- a 2 HB offense would not make our OLinemen physically stronger.

It's about stressing the Bears defense. They'll be seeing plays and looks that we've never shown before. For example, if you have Gurley coming on jet motion, that changes things significantly. Woods, Cooks, Reynolds, etc. have to be respected, but Todd Gurley is arguably the NFL's best HB. When he's coming across the formation with the opportunity to get the ball, it is going to draw attention. And if we run play action off of that, teams will sometimes forget the guy on the jet action. That might allow you to hit Gurley with a quick pass in the flat for a big gain.

Further, you can work in other wrinkles. You could have Cooks run a go route or skinny post to draw coverage with Gurley running a wheel route behind that off of the jet action. You can bring Gurley in motion and then use him in a route combination if you like the defensive match-ups. You want to make the Bears have to think out there. That will lead to mistakes. Plus, the attention Gurley will draw on those plays is more likely to open up running lanes for Anderson.

I'm not saying we run 95% of our plays out of that personnel. I'm saying we sprinkle it in as a wrinkle to confuse the Bears.
(You can replace the Bears with whomever else if the Bears lose)

 

[So Ram]

I'd love to see us occasionally put Gurley at WR with Anderson at HB. It's going to force the defense to make some difficult personnel decisions. Plus, being able to use that jet motion with Gurley will open up some big plays. But for the most part, I'd use Gurley at HB with Anderson spelling him where needed. I might consider using C.J. for 3rd and 1 type situations because I think he has an advantage there.

Well when The Rams lost Brown it put way to much of the load on Gurley. McVay is like a chest player & will set up situations to be successful. CJ Anderson showed what a special type of RB he is.
I think towards the end of games is where CJ Anderson’s value really is, besides a 3rd & short back.He will help run clock & take the extra pounding Gurley does not need. Plus CJ Anderson might be the better short down back, which will help Gurley finish off defenses by breaking off that long run when they are on there back.

 

[badnews]

Remember during Steven Jacksons prime, the Rams brought in Stephen Davis as the 2nd back. Jackson was a beast but he ran so upright that he didn't always have great pad level. The older, slower Davis was a bowling ball like CJ who understood how to run behind his pads. Jackson, the premier athlete was great but Davis was the better back in short yardage situations and by the end of the season together SJ had picked up some of Davis' skills at running inside and it helped make Jackson the complete back he became.

I hope our RB room next year has CJ and JK behind Gurley.

 

[RamsSince1969]

Give me a 1920's "I" formation with CJ busting a hole so big a tractor trailer can fit through it. Do that a few times with no sweeps and the Bears will be completely baffled because we just don't do old school smash mouth football.

 

[den-the-coach]

I'd love to see us occasionally put Gurley at WR with Anderson at HB. It's going to force the defense to make some difficult personnel decisions. Plus, being able to use that jet motion with Gurley will open up some big plays. But for the most part, I'd use Gurley at HB with Anderson spelling him where needed. I might consider using C.J. for 3rd and 1 type situations because I think he has an advantage there.

Using Gurley with the Jet Sweep against the Bears will be brilliant, they are going to have to get creative. No excuses, you have two weeks to prepare for the Chicago Bears in good weather, McVay needs to get his first playoff win and kick their ass.

 

[PhillyRam]

The Bears are #1 in the NFL vs the run and #7 vs the pass.

A simple answer like shove it down their throats and run the ball is probably a recipe for disaster.

If you rewatch our game vs the Bears you will notice 2 interceptions came as a result of Goff being hit as he was throwing and thus the passes were altered. A third interception came on an end of half hail marry which contextually shouldn’t count towards evaluating our pass game vs the Bears.

Our pass game can beat the bears but the timing of the ball coming out of
Goff’s hands needs to speed up. You also have to help Sully with Hicks and also double Mack. I can see a split RB set for this exact purpose.

The Bears are not that good on the road.

If we play our game and throw the Bears pass rush off with quick passes, counters and rollouts, and block the correct pass rushers we could score on them.

Don’t get me wrong, I would try to run the ball, but if it’s going backwards I try to beat them through the air with the right adjustments.

Yeah, it's about running enough to keep them honest. You can't beat a great defense being one dimensional. So pound a little with Anderson & Gurley.. and Gurley on jet sweeps with Anderson in the backfield would be a nice twist.

And if you can get ahead, Trubisky can't beat you being one dimensional.

 

[fastcat]

Remember during Steven Jacksons prime, the Rams brought in Stephen Davis as the 2nd back. Jackson was a beast but he ran so upright that he didn't always have great pad level. The older, slower Davis was a bowling ball like CJ who understood how to run behind his pads. Jackson, the premier athlete was great but Davis was the better back in short yardage situations and by the end of the season together SJ had picked up some of Davis' skills at running inside and it helped make Jackson the complete back he became.

I hope our RB room next year has CJ and JK behind Gurley.

I believe thay was SJs 2nd year. That season was the ONLY season he consistantly ran behind his pads instead of upright. I never understood his running style while being that big... If he ran behind his pads he would have been one of the best RBs to ever play thr game imo

 

[BonifayRam]

I think ground a pound will work well v Saints to keep their offense off field but v Bears we will need to mix in the pass. Play option will be even better with two headed RBs.

I believe the Bears will be taken out by the Seahawks