Gurley '16?

[Spider2YB]

McVay opted out of running the ball in this past game because 1) The Buc's D is top 5 in rushing yards allowed 2) The Buc's D was HORRIBLE in Pass coverage in their loss to the Giants last week. I understand why McVay came out passing the ball. That's just 1 game. If you see a pattern in this from week 1, then I'm all ears.

McVay has abandoned the run in most Rams losses since he’s been the coach. It’s his weakness.

 

[IBruce80]

McVay abandoned the run in some games last season.
With the speculation over Gurley's rumoured health issues has only thrown out more guessing.

Gurley played plenty of snaps vs the bucs.
I believe McVay abandoned the run again as we were behind and put faith in Goff.
It didn't work out.
The OL isn't as good this season.

 

[Oregonram]

I believe Sean is coming to a crisis of philosophy. Generally....very generally, you either work your will against another team, or you are the type of coach that “ takes” what the defense gives you. Sean is definitely of the second school, Fisher was the first. But what if a defensive coordinator knows this about you, and baits you into abandoning the run game by giving you looks that appear to be favorable to the pass? Sean has not yet demonstrated the patience to “press” his opponent to establish the run. I believe he will figure it out. There is no excuse game after game to stop giving the rock to the best running back in the NFL. Many on this forum thinks it began with the Lions game from last year. I disagree...I think we saw it in the playoff game with the Falcons the year prior. Gurley had 10 rushing attempts, and we placed all of the pressure on Mr. Goff. Please take some of the pressure off of the young man.

 

[I like Rams]

One thing i havent seen in awhile is second half adjustments. We use to be notorious for that, we were a second half team. Now we dont seem to do anything but the same thing...

 

[Dxmissile]

I said it last year and I’ll say it again. There is more to this Gurley situation that may eventually come out one day. I’ll ask the rest of the members but I’ve been watching football for close to 50 years and cannot recall anything similar to what is going on with Gurley.

-How does an MVP candidate and someone who was considered the top back in football get relegated to basically a decoy and a blocker?

-So our prized RB is being “saved” for the post season so we can’t run him or throw him passes but we can have him brace himself and take on blitzing LBs to protect the QB? Yeah, that doesn’t do anything to your knees!

-it’s common knowledge that in football you are either healthy to play and be expected to contribute or you sit depending on what happens in practice during the week. So I guess Gurley has the most unique injury in the entire history of football that causes McVay to basically utilize him like a 3rd string HS running back.

-I’m sorry but something just doesn’t sit right about this whole thing. I’ve never seen anything like it since I’ve been watching football.

Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it sure seems like Gurley said or did something to piss off McVay at the end of last year because the way he is being used and basically taking up space doesn’t make sense.

I agree and I’ll actually put words to my thoughts it seems like McVay is really trying to make Goff the focal point of the offense like it’s a legacy thing for him to get Goff the recognition instead of Gurley. I know it sounds petty but this offense only works when Gurley is the focal point it’s makes everybody better including Goff but it seems like they want it for Goff and the results just aren’t there

 

[Dxmissile]

McVay opted out of running the ball in this past game because 1) The Buc's D is top 5 in rushing yards allowed 2) The Buc's D was HORRIBLE in Pass coverage in their loss to the Giants last week. I understand why McVay came out passing the ball. That's just 1 game. If you see a pattern in this from week 1, then I'm all ears.

But when you notice them blitzing all day and you notice that our line can’t stop them then running the ball is the way to go you get those linebackers thinking run it slows down the pass rush and makes the play action game lethal. McVay needs a better balance that’s the only way we’ll be able to handle the way teams are playing us. Next week I’m running the ball 3 times in a row and don’t care if I have to punt I’m going to let everybody know we running the damn ball

 

[payote75]

I totally disagree with this whole Gurley conspiracy injury. If he were really injured and its apparent your/he/Mcvey is hurting the rest of the team. Players Willa eat disinterested real fast. All players bust there butt to play and win and if a player is hurt and can't his job the coaching staff has to get healthy bodies in or they will lose the rest of the team. If Gurley isn't injured the we have martz 2.0 issues if he is injured then you cannot keep running him out there it deflates a team. Maybe that's why the defense just broke down yesterday why bother trying if the offense is sputtering and gurley is just out there cause his paycheck is so substantial and it needs of be justified it would send a terrible message to the rest of the team.
If that is indeed the case it wouldn't only be a goff regression it would be a front office coaching staff franchise regression. Also not running the ball we all know it doesn't get the defense the proper rest another black mark there too.

 

[HitStick]

Because something is wrong with Gurley .. it’s as easy and simple as that .. I think Mcvay would rather have him out there rather than brown or Henderson get the carries because of the questions

Also we are facing loaded boxes the fabled and oh so talked about 6-1 front teams are asking us to throw so we “take what the defense gives us “

I don’t think it’s that. I think McVay is suffering from Mad Mike disease. Over confidence in a passing attack.

 

[DrRage46]

I hate to even contemplate this, but if I was a betting man, I'd bet Gurley retires after this season.

I hope I'm wrong. He's one of my all time favorite Rams.

I dont see him wanting to retire but if this shit keeps up I can see him wanting to be traded after this year to a team that wants to give him the touches.This is just my opinion but it really looks like gurley is not happy about the touches he gets and doesn't want to be here.

 

[iamme33]

That and O-line regressed in run blocking imo. I just don't get why we at least utilize Brown/Henderson to see if that's the case or not. Also doesn't help that McVay has the mentality that less than 3-5 yards per down is considered a disappointment; I don't see anything wrong with that as long as we're moving the chains, it'll gradually tire defenses too if dominating TOP.

everyone is saying we need to run more which is probably true but the df is begging us to pass. we know we scored 40 points which should have been enough to win except we had 4 turn overs. if we eliminate the turn overs we force them out of that 61 df then we can run. that said what I have seen is we have had some success running up the middle so maybe run more there. but the 61 has plenty of hole in it we need to punish it especially when they blitz. come on mcvay figure it out.

 

[UKram]

I don’t think it’s that. I think McVay is suffering from Mad Mike disease. Over confidence in a passing attack.

I dunno man .. we cannot run the ball (regardless of who is back there at the minute ) maybe Mcvay wants to pass to set up the run ... but with as abysmal our o line had been we can’t do that either ... there is gonna be a game soon (hopefully Thursday)
When everybody says the rams are back

 

[HitStick]

I dunno man .. we cannot run the ball (regardless of who is back there at the minute ) maybe Mcvay wants to pass to set up the run ... but with as abysmal our o line had been we can’t do that either ... there is gonna be a game soon (hopefully Thursday)
When everybody says the rams are back

You can’t expect them to get into a groove with the running game when Gurley and Brown are only getting 10 (combined) rushes and Goff is throwing nearly 60 times.

 

[BonifayRam]

Los Angeles Rams: The extremely frustrating running back situation in LA

The Los Angeles Rams have the most talented running back in the entire NFL yet fans have every right to feel extremely frustrated with the team.

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[ProGen]

McVay turned this franchise around after a decade of utter shit.
He changed the mentality of the team, and he took us to a Super Bowl.
The man is a winner.

He of course has some flaws with the way he calls the offense...BUT there is no way he is neglecting the run this blatantly without valid reason.

 

[Reddog99]

After watching wired with Todd Gurley I don't think he's any different than he has been. Seems like hes having fun and enjoying the game like always. I dont belive hes retiring or gonna want to be traded. I'm sure he wants more touches though. I believe Sunday's game was just one of those days. I think they were more focused on thursday when they should've been focused on Sunday's game. Also there seemed to be quite a bit of confusion on both sides of the ball. Here's to hoping they rebound against the hawks. Preferably in a BIG way

 

[bwdenverram]

So, to all of you screaming for Goffs head, or it's all our Oline's fault. I can tell you this. IT's not. It's our coaches fault. He's calling the plays, he's setting the tone, and he's letting us know that he doesn't think we can run it AT ALL. Whether or not that's true, i don't know but you can't sit here and blame it all on Goff or our Oline, Any Oline or QB would collapse under this type of play calling. Even if we are down a couple scores we can't become one dimensional.

I have to agree and disagree. Anyone watching I think has to agree the line is not paying like it did the last two years. Saffold, IMO was a pretty big loss and Havenstein has regressed from what I'm watching. I do agree the play calling is no way near as balanced as last year. So you have to put some on SM. But to say the OL play isn't part of the problem is false, IMO. Goff has been forced to make a lot quicker decisions than the last couple years which has also shown he's not as good under pressure (at least what we're seeing this year so far). He's made some bad decisions, held the ball too long or just not held onto the ball at all. All of which can and should be cleaned up.

 

[UKram]

I have to agree and disagree. Anyone watching I think has to agree the line is not paying like it did the last two years. Saffold, IMO was a pretty big loss and Havenstein has regressed from what I'm watching. I do agree the play calling is no way near as balanced as last year. So you have to put some on SM. But to say the OL play isn't part of the problem is false, IMO. Goff has been forced to make a lot quicker decisions than the last couple years which has also shown he's not as good under pressure (at least what we're seeing this year so far). He's made some bad decisions, held the ball too long or just not held onto the ball at all. All of which can and should be cleaned up.

I saw something from pff the other day. Our o line is dead last .. goff has been hot hurried sacked something like 74 times in 4 games (I’m gonna go check )

 

[LARams_1963]

We saw how ineffective Gurley was in '16 after his OROY. It took us a good portion of the season to confirm the issue wasn't TG but the Oline. The Middle School Offense didn't help much either. I think what we're seeing here is more O line issues. Is that the reason Coach has shied away? I'd say yes.

 

[AZRams]

One thing i havent seen in awhile is second half adjustments. We use to be notorious for that, we were a second half team. Now we dont seem to do anything but the same thing...

Disagree...look at the numbers from the second halves against Carolina and NO. Especially NO...offense was stymied and they trailed with a Fisher-esque 6-3 score. Outscored them 21-3 in the second half.

 

[AZRams]

I don’t think it’s that. I think McVay is suffering from Mad Mike disease. Over confidence in a passing attack.

That's my fear, that he'll turn into the Son of Martz.