Gruden Sues Goodell and NFL

[Elmgrovegnome]

Key word. You said in this current state. They're pulling up emails from ten years or more ago. There's no current state when you can go back in time and punish someone for something they said a decade ago. You asked a question about other coaches emails...the whole point of him suing the NFL is so it's brought out into the open. Obviously he knows something that we do not. Or at least he thinks he does.

You have to remember there are thousands and thousands of emails not just from today's coaches but from coaches over ten years ago.

Not all of the E-mails were ten years old. Some were more recent. And maybe I should have said the state of the social scene for the last decade. Or at least since Kaepernick kneeling on the field about 5-6 years ago.

The raiders were the first NFL team to hire a black coach and females in management. Could they risk this coming out later, then have fans and the press finding out that they knew for years? The way it was handled likely felt to the league that acting fast was the best image for the league. And if they already knew about Gruden this makes it look like they just discovered it.

I’m just trying to picture how this went down from the leagues standpoint. I think in this case the league said, “Uh oh, if this gets out and the press finds that we didn’t act, then this will look very bad for us…. especially considering the number of minority players and fans across the country. They just worked to repair the damage from the kneeling. They don’t want more bad press.

They may already have figured that Gruden would sue, and maybe win, as being a worthy consequence to them outing him, and saving face in the long run.

 

[Merlin]

Not all of the E-mails were ten years old. Some were more recent. And maybe I should have said the state of the social scene for the last decade. Or at least since Kaepernick kneeling on the field about 5-6 years ago.

The raiders were the first NFL team to hire a black coach and females in management. Could they risk this coming out later, then have fans and the press finding out that they knew for years? The way it was handled likely felt to the league that acting fast was the best image for the league. And if they already knew about Gruden this makes it look like they just discovered it.

I’m just trying to picture how this went down from the leagues standpoint. I think in this case the league said, “Uh oh, if this gets out and the press finds that we didn’t act, then this will look very bad for us…. especially considering the number of minority players and fans across the country. They just worked to repair the damage from the kneeling. They don’t want more bad press.

They may already have figured that Gruden would sue, and maybe win, as being a worthy consequence to them outing him, and saving face in the long run.

This is all an offshoot of the Redskins being a shit organization IMO. They treated people poorly and got slapped with an investigation which then gets used to divert attention by someone there leaking Gruden's BS. So now instead of people talking about what a toxic piece of shit owner Snyder is they're talking about Gruden being racist.

Who benefits? The whole thing fuckin stinks man. So yeah I hope Gruden unearths a shitstorm with this lawsuit and drags the fuckhead owner through the mud with him.

 

[Angry Ram]

Mike Foolio RN:

 

[Jacobarch]

. He was definitely targeted.

And that's the only thing that matters here. Hurting people's feelings sucks yes I know. But to Target someone is an act that will get any company into trouble if it's brought to light. Problem is these things generally get bought and paid for and swept under the rug.

 

[Jacobarch]

So here's a question for everyone. Would gruden still have been canned if emails surfaced from his personal email correspondence?

I think so.

 

[thirteen28]

Who benefits? The whole thing fuckin stinks man. So yeah I hope Gruden unearths a shitstorm with this lawsuit and drags the fuckhead owner through the mud with him.

Discovery should be fun. This lawsuit will allow them to go through a lot of shit, and I hope they can somehow go through all of Goodell's emails ... that would be a treasure trove of insight. The could come to rue the day they targeted Gruden.

And as far as what Gruden did, we have players in the game now that have done far worse, and while I'm far from being an expert on the lyrics of Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Eminem, next Super Bowl's halftime show, I'm sure their lyrics contain insensitivities to rival if not exceed those of Gruden's private emails.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This is all an offshoot of the Redskins being a shit organization IMO. They treated people poorly and got slapped with an investigation which then gets used to divert attention by someone there leaking Gruden's BS. So now instead of people talking about what a toxic piece of shit owner Snyder is they're talking about Gruden being racist.

Who benefits? The whole thing fuckin stinks man. So yeah I hope Gruden unearths a shitstorm with this lawsuit and drags the fuckhead owner through the mud with him.

I don’t think it’s a diversion. The Washington thing is still unsettled. That investigation is still ongoing isn’t it? This is damage control.

Maybe we never find out for certain.

 

[OnceARam]

So here's a question for everyone. Would gruden still have been canned if emails surfaced from his personal email correspondence?

I think so.

Maybe. To me the question is, is Gruden a racist or just an everyday egotistical prick who has an image to uphold as an egotistical prick? So, as we know, the work emails were racist. This racism feed the image of "chucky" the egotistical prick. But if you look at the actions of the man, it's hard to call him a racist.

If we look deeper, the recipients of his emails were white men. So we can assume that he doesn't have the balls to utter a racist comment to an actual person of color.

So, I think Gruden is just a common coward, trying to puff out his chest to people who could care less. Put him in front of a person of color and he would backtrack like a sniveling child.

IDK, I don't understand this subject. When I grew up everyone played together and all we cared about was winning.

I think it's good that there is discussion on this subject.

 

[kurtfaulk]

There's no current state when you can go back in time and punish someone for something they said a decade ago.

isn't this how the woke movement operates?

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[LARAMSinFeb.]

isn't this how the woke movement operates?

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Is the "woke movement" the anti-racism movement? Sorry, out of the loop.

 

[Riverumbbq]

isn't this how the woke movement operates?

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So is convicting a murderer or rapist for a decade old crime part of this 'woke' movement also ?