Greedy Fucking Roger Goodell

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Couldn't disagree with this more.

Proof?

During Covid the supposed shortening of supply chains etc etc caused prices to go.

Now most if not all of them are back how many prices have went back don't?

It's only an excuse, once they get a taste of the money and power it will always be in their blood for more.

Don't kid yourself.
Supply & demand.... when govt pumps trillions into the economy and now Covid spending is baseline for even our current "budget's", prices go up. ECON 101.

Then not to mention energy prices continue to go up, which just adds a "tax" on everything.
 

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Its not just that its a business - the players get a cut of the total revenue.

So its actually the responsibility of Goodell/the owners to make as much money as possible for the players too.

Highest bidder will win. Calling the NFL greedy is wild, especially when a lot of those same people will say "but the players should be paid more"
 
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Wow, along the lines of what Avenger said, this is a pretty dang whiny post. I definitely remember the days of only getting to see what was broadcast locally. Then came DTV and Sunday Ticket and it was definitely pricey, but I also paid for access unlike anything that had been previously available. I don't watch much TV, but my subscriptions are primarily based on access to as many Rams games as I can get, and just football in general. The alternative is pretty dang easy; If you don't want to watch live, don't pay. The NFL is clearly big business, and they're damn good at what they do, which is why Goodell has lasted this long.
 

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Couldn't disagree with this more.

Proof?

During Covid the supposed shortening of supply chains etc etc caused prices to go.

Now most if not all of them are back how many prices have went back don't?

It's only an excuse, once they get a taste of the money and power it will always be in their blood for more.

Don't kid yourself.
Hey Corbin, your reply doesn't really address my comment.

As a person employed in this industry for 40 years and having recently taken place in negotiations regarding this and other issues, I can tell you we have a revenue problem.

Yes, the evil coorps and their henchman are healthy as the money pushes more and more to the top.


Our pensions are in jeopardy as well as our health benefits. There is almost no secondary market, there are less adds generating revenue. Almost nobody buys hard copies of media anymore, we have theaters shutting down.



I think you know that the loss of revenue due to illegal streaming has an effect, it affects the crews and little people first as our pension is highly impacted by the loss of revenue due to theft.


I agree that covid was part to blame for the greedy opportunists and gouging of the consumer base.

Socialism for the rich and elite and late-stage capitalism for the rest of us but that is a bit of a somewhat different problem.
 

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Highest bidder will win. Calling the NFL greedy is wild, especially when a lot of those same people will say "but the players should be paid more"
I am not one of those people. I think sports players are vastly overpaid. Unfortunately, so are the owners.

It's a no win situation.
 

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Get a firestick and "adjust it" to your liking ......your right though it's impossible to afford all of it
 

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Wow, along the lines of what Avenger said, this is a pretty dang whiny post. I definitely remember the days of only getting to see what was broadcast locally. Then came DTV and Sunday Ticket and it was definitely pricey, but I also paid for access unlike anything that had been previously available. I don't watch much TV, but my subscriptions are primarily based on access to as many Rams games as I can get, and just football in general. The alternative is pretty dang easy; If you don't want to watch live, don't pay. The NFL is clearly big business, and they're damn good at what they do, which is why Goodell has lasted this long.
I doubt the tone is even supposed to be whiny. NFL in general is greedy but people are still paying for it. Will they ever hit an area where it no longer goes up like crazy and turns away fans as they nickle and dime for more? It looks like it's heading that way and I'm sure has turned some folks away already. The NFL is smart to take advantage but just because they've done so successfully doesn't mean they are not greedy assholes because they are. They could charge less (yes I know, it's never gonna happen and I agree) and still make a killing. Athletes and sports in general are way overpaid. Unfortunately, reality is that's not going away so there's that hahahaha
 

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This has to be the whiniest thread in a long time. :eyeroll:
Maybe you're a little better off than some/most people here, I was trying to relate to folks who may not be financially rich such as myself. Like I said, retired military income, no social security til next year, also work related disabled so my income is limited. I would still like to watch all the games at a reasonable price. That's all.
 

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Maybe you're a little better off than some/most people here, I was trying to relate to folks who may not be financially rich such as myself. Like I said, retired military income, no social security til next year, also work related disabled so my income is limited. I would still like to watch all the games at a reasonable price. That's all.
Thanks for your service. :fistbump1:
We can all get caught up in ourselves and lose perspective it is important to remind ourselves to be empathetic and compassionate.
I hope you catch all the games you desire
 

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Maybe you're a little better off than some/most people here, I was trying to relate to folks who may not be financially rich such as myself. Like I said, retired military income, no social security til next year, also work related disabled so my income is limited. I would still like to watch all the games at a reasonable price. That's all.
That’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that the prices are set based on “greed.” It’s just supply/demand economics.

Moreover, there are still benefit to streaming even if you can’t afford the subscription. For example, many bars and restaurants (even ones that don’t have satellite dishes) now can now offer access to games.
 

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It's not personal greed. He gets paid a salary. The man is just doing his job and maximizing the profits for the owners. By the way, if you do not change with the times, you are going to get left behind. Rodger is keeping up with what is becoming more popular nationwide and capitalizing on it.
 
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It is a broken system, the trillion lost revenue from bootlegging, and the like hasn’t helped.

Like many other things we are seeing around us we need a reset of the way we digest media

The more we get our content illegally the more we will see price increases and alternative avenues.

I would go back to networks and adds in a minute.

The monetization of media is a wasteland of bad business decisions
Well you can think what you want & people will find out the HARD WAY if they don’t pay attention.I heard your situation in LIFE & FUTURE ? The 1 thing I always say is I don’t want anything taken away from me(people).

I can get deep into things,and keep it real,by anyone who’ve read my post.
Since we are talking about GREED,the 1% are always going to be good.They have the right for the pricing increase.They need to pay the back side of there prophets for the 99% who are paying for it.That’s the big picture,because if not we will really paying for Roger Goodell & CO’s GREED.
 

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YouTube NFL PACKAGE is going to go up in price TODAY ! I have hours to say $200 & going to have to CAVE in.I also have to find the best way to consolidate all this different services.
Deleted my situation,but will just say I hope The Best 4 RAM FANS in Life.That we all fight for our freedoms & rights.This is a price we are going to have to pay for as an expense.Small price now I’m willing to pay for this luxury.
 

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Goodall is just doing what the rest of the world is doing...

going away from the old TV model.
 

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I stream games online for free. Been watching them this way for years.
Yup. Streameast, Crackstreams or Reddit. Whichever is working best that day. Streameast seems the best to me. I have an ad blocker so I don't have to close out a dozen pop ups to get to the game.
 

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Hey Corbin, your reply doesn't really address my comment.

As a person employed in this industry for 40 years and having recently taken place in negotiations regarding this and other issues, I can tell you we have a revenue problem.

Yes, the evil corps and their henchman are healthy as the money pushes more and more to the top.


Our pensions are in jeopardy as well as our health benefits. There is almost no secondary market, there are less adds generating revenue. Almost nobody buys hard copies of media anymore, we have theaters shutting down.



I think you know that the loss of revenue due to illegal streaming has an effect, it affects the crews and little people first as our pension is highly impacted by the loss of revenue due to theft.


I agree that covid was part to blame for the greedy opportunists and gouging of the consumer base.

Socialism for the rich and elite and late-stage capitalism for the rest of us but that is a bit of a somewhat different problem.
I don't know what specific industry you are referring to (whether it be advertisements or in television/movie production) but both of these are part of the problem. But from an outsider looking in here is your problem.

Why do people perform illegal streaming like myself for the last 18 years? Why?
#1. Greed
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Netflix is a perfect example. Constant Price hikes constantly with no real difference in amount of content or quality.

Netflix CEO makes 49.8 million a year which is a little lower from last year because he took more in stock options.

This isn’t even including any of the other Sr. Members of the company. What are they paying the ones one the bottom end while taking all the benefits? That’s only 1 company.

Making people all get their individual accounts instead of sharing (even when you pay for other devices) because loss of revenue from making and promoting shit content and trying to make up for it without fixing the problem is also another reason to note here.

#2 Taking existing played out story lines and remaking with someone else of a different gender or skin color with a extremely shit story line does not bode well for someone wanting to pay money to watch and then blaming discrimination because nobody watches it.

#3 Complaining that there isn’t enough money because of illegal streaming is just like this meme
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You just have to stop the BS and many people who canceled would probably come back. But still simply stopping all that isn’t an option just like standing up isn’t an option in this meme.

#4 Parroting CEO’s and the entertainments business upper echelons empty narrative is not the way to go if you want change, especially in pay and benefits. If you are part of the script and writers they need to stop with the Woke shit. Go woke, Go Broke. Proof? We are having this conversation.

#5 DEI has killed your industry more than illegal streaming. The time any of this became an issue is when the DEI people started pushing a narrative in every story, recasting 12% of the population in 80% of commercials now, in movies that are inaccurate, just like if a movie was cast as some European playing Mansa Musa that would be ridiculous and a shame. The same of all this DEI your industry pushes and refuses to realize and accept a huge part of your audience realizes the hypocrisy of it all and you’ve lost a ton of revenue over it, but illegal streaming is to blame.

I’m thrilled to illegally stream everything now. I won’t give a cent to any of those fuckers to support their out of touch lifestyle and the moronic BS they push that has the veil that it’s helpful but hurts those it’s supposedly for than it helps.


I’m sorry I respect you as a Rams fan but this is what you guys in your industry have to realize if you actually want change.
 

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Just saw the NFL awarded Netflix the Christmas Day games. Thanks Roger. In order to compensate his $50+m annual salary you now have to pay $70 a month for local broadcasting to receive in market games and Monday Night football. $16 a month for Amazon for Thursday night games. $389 for YouTube Sunday Ticket, and now additional money for Christmas day games if you dont already have Netflix. Goodell's personal greed, outrageous contracts (especially QBs) are making it difficult to afford all the programming if you're a pro football junkie. Is it just me or is anyone else getting tired of being fucked as fans as corporate greed takes over?
POS video tape destroying MF G SOB :)
 

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Hey Corbin you are right on with your assessment that Netflix is an issue in fact they are the catalyst to what became the chasing of a broken system down the proverbial drain.

You are also correct that DEI according to all source analysis is
Patently shown to be deleterious to the industry as a whole.


I am just an employee whose creative input is only applicable to the entirety of a project. I have no input on subject matter which you nailed as agenda based and regurgitated trash especially since work stoppages due to posturing.

I can only say in regard to the benefits and revenue losses that it is unfortunate and certainly intentional on the part of big corp that those of us that make a living as a middle class worker in our industry have our pensions and benefits tied to the secondary markets and ticket sales.


I totally and completely understand why people stream through the “alternate avenues”
I just hope you know the system is rigged and it is the little people who pay the price first.

I will give 1 quick example, we are underfunded in our benefits package by an estimated 500 million for the next contract period.
This means either the evil empire pitches in more or we pay even higher co pays etc…..

Thanks for reading Corbin and again I get most of your stance.

Be well my Ram Brother
 
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Can we fucking stop with the opinions on DEI, “woke” and all the rest?

At best, we get bumper sticker sloganeering and at worst gross mischaracterization based on a person’s politics and seeing as this a) isn’t the place for that and b) there is no avenue to respond, just don’t.

We’re here to be Rams fans.

Do I have a long, nuanced answer that agrees with some aspects and strongly disagrees on others? You bet… but this isn’t the place.

Why. Is. It. So. Fucking. Hard. To. Just. Leave. That. Shit. Alone???

Pick other examples. Use other euphemisms. If that’s not possible, don’t use examples or analogies, just say what needs to be said directly.

Can we do that? I mean, it’s in the TOS and the Mods have closed umpteen threads because of it, so none of this is a surprise…