Got to say it: McVay pissed me off

[thirteen28]

I much rather have saffold for the next 3-4 years then either one of them sacks and all. When we had a good line we averaged 30ppg and offenses simply couldnt Keep up which allowed donald/defense to feast on teams playing catch up. That's the formula for success if we stick with goff or any qb for that matter. The high powered offense was the rams best defense in 17/18 imo.

Ditto.

For one, both Floyd and Fowler were signed on one year deals, and we will have neither of them going into next year while we could still have Saffold, and a much better interior. I think trying to replace both Sullivan and Saffold at the same time was too much. And while the sacks provided by both Fowler then Floyd were nice, they came at the cost of an offense that has been significantly reduced in effectiveness and has led us to this moment.

 

[So Ram]

Simply put, this probably sums it up.

I think most are in the same page.Want Jared Goff to be better
if he can’t do all the things Mcvay wants from him.This season there was a divide.It pissed me off from the start! Mainly for the only reason The Rams brought everyone back & even extended everyone’s contract.The offensive line was healthy & another season of experience.
This seems like The Rams have a lot to change moving forward.Lossing there new DC & maybe the OC again just makes things more difficult again.
Plus the Niners were not 100 % so the division is going to be harder to win in 2021.

 

[CoachAllred]

We keep saying McVay inherited Goff... while true, he decided to EXTEND him. If Goff wasn’t his guy, shouldn’t he have decided that before?

If I’m the owner... I’m wondering why I keep extending players contracts to decide just a season or two later they don’t fit.

Gurley, Cooks, Goff? Really?

Gurley. Cooks were not moved because they didn't fit.
They were both moved because of injury. Gurley with his knee
and Cooks with the concussions.
These are things you can't control. That's why I disagree with the notion
that these were bad signings. Not saying it's your notion, but it is a general opinion of
several sports writers.

 

[jacktheripper85]

Except for the fact that we can offer a Super Bowl QB, something Houston has never sniffed. A guy that lead the top offense in the NFL over two years. And they have the WR Cooks that Goff did this with. So if Watson really wants out they do need a backup plan at Qb and our offer is something Miami and NY can’t match.

Not saying it will happen because the draft pick discrepancy is legitimate. But Goffs resume is night and day different from a rookie or a Sam Darnold.

I’ll agree with you to a certain extent there but those other QBs aren’t making $33MM a year. If we don’t think he’s worth that much and are willing to trade him with the talent we have why would Houston think he’s worth it-especially when you factor in that they have less talent than us to support Goff?

 

[majrleaged]

What is the stat if you remove the roll outs.

Would also like to see that broken out into pressures while executing 7 step drops etc...

Whenever they are in long yardage situations, the OL rarely held up long enough to throw it downfield. That is just the reality.

In fact. Many times we ran the ball cause he new the oline would get Goff killed

 

[majrleaged]

Rollouts/boots don't just help the line with pass pro. They also help check the opposing edges in the run game. And they cut the field in half for easier QB reads.

Also leaves less passing options

 

[GoodBadUgly]

...
Plus the Niners were not 100 % so the division is going to be harder to win in 2021.

Not sure I agree with this. We lost twice to the Whiners. How much worse can it be?

Them being better means they win more games against Seashits and Shards.

 

[So Ram]

Not sure I agree with this. We lost twice to the Whiners. How much worse can it be?

Them being better means they win more games against Seashits and Shards.

Yep!! Mcvay & The Rams lost twice
which I didn’t like at ALL,especially with them being down so many players all season.
The good thing about The Niners is they finally lost there DC as well.He seemed to have had McVays number.
The Rams already lost to the 0-13 Jets at home.I’d say that is pretty LOW?
I’m a long time Rams fan & really liked the play of a lot of Rams Players this season.I think the future is always bright & enjoyed the season.

 

[dasramas]

My two cents.

McVay needs to address o-line for sure. Against decent defenses they got pushed around and in fact against the Packers were pushed right into Goff.
I feel play calling and clock management need a lot of work as well. Too many wasted timeouts and near delay of game penalties all season.
Now onto Goff. He drives me nuts because we have all seen him have good games and also see the WTF was that games. Too many turnovers and inability to move in the pocket against decent defenses hurts our Rams. The int he threw against seattle about exceeded the limits of my bp meds.
This off-season needs to be about improving the offensive line, getting a WR that can take the top off of a defense. McVay correcting his clock management and challenging Goff.

 

[Reddog99]

I'm a Goff supporter but McVay came in and changed the culture and this team into a winning team so I'll back him whatever he decides to do. Imo though I'd like to forget about getting Watson and try to build the OL to protect the guy we have now without mortgaging anymore of the team's future.

I understand peoples frustration with Goff but we know that we can win with him if he has protection and time. He doesn't scramble or get the ball out as quick as Wolford but he gives us a better chance at success in the long run.

Fix the OL and give him a deep threat and allow him time to gain trust in the line again and watch the old Goff come back.

Just my opinion but that's all I'm gonna say about the McVay/Goff situation

 

[UKram]

Except for the fact that we can offer a Super Bowl QB, something Houston has never sniffed. A guy that lead the top offense in the NFL over two years. And they have the WR Cooks that Goff did this with. So if Watson really wants out they do need a backup plan at Qb and our offer is something Miami and NY can’t match.

Not saying it will happen because the draft pick discrepancy is legitimate. But Goffs resume is night and day different from a rookie or a Sam Darnold.

Hahahaha if goff is all that ... why trade for Watson ....one minute “it’s GoFf SuCks “ and the next it’s .. he is a super bowl QB he made the pro bowl twice he hasn’t had a losing season in four years .. he has the most wins over a four year period let’s trade him for someone who went 4-12 ...just a plain old facepalm

 

[Faceplant]

Hahahaha if goff is all that ... why trade for Watson ....one minute “it’s GoFf SuCks “ and the next it’s .. he is a super bowl QB he made the pro bowl twice he hasn’t had a losing season in four years .. he has the most wins over a four year period let’s trade him for someone who went 4-12 ...just a plain old facepalm

Yes, but using that logic, Goff is 0-7 without McVay. Watson is playing with subpar talent and coaching in HOU, and yet he threw for 4800+ yds, 33 TDs and 7 INTs at better than 70% completion rate. . Do you really think he goes 4-12 on the Rams in 2020???

 

[Merlin]

Hahahaha if goff is all that ... why trade for Watson ....one minute “it’s GoFf SuCks “ and the next it’s .. he is a super bowl QB he made the pro bowl twice he hasn’t had a losing season in four years .. he has the most wins over a four year period let’s trade him for someone who went 4-12 ...just a plain old facepalm

It's that QB cult-like effect my man. That stuff (which you see on all team boards) is usually fine too btw, at least for a while but then you'll have some who take it so far that it prevents fair and unbiased evaluation of where the QB is at. We had the same shit back in the Bradford days with some losing their fucking minds over any sort of perceived insult of 8 and another group of lunatics who wanted to light his ass on fire over anything he did wrong.

As usual the truth is in the middle. People nowadays just have a habit of gravitating to the extremes. IMO.

 

[FrantikRam]

Gurley. Cooks were not moved because they didn't fit.
They were both moved because of injury. Gurley with his knee
and Cooks with the concussions.
These are things you can't control. That's why I disagree with the notion
that these were bad signings. Not saying it's your notion, but it is a general opinion of
several sports writers.

I think we can say Cooks was a bad deal for us on all fronts - a first round pick plus $15 million per year and he's just an above average starter.

 

[Giles]

Yes, but using that logic, Goff is 0-7 without McVay. Watson is playing with subpar talent and coaching in HOU, and yet he threw for 4800+ yds, 33 TDs and 7 INTs at better than 70% completion rate. . Do you really think he goes 4-12 on the Rams in 2020???

Dak Prescott also went 8-8 putting up amazing numbers on a very talented cowboys team in 2019. Winning matters and people who want to overlook Watson going 4-12 are insane imo. I cant remember arod, brees, and brady ever having a record like that with less or similar talent on offense. Point is top 5 quarterbacks dont have there team picking in the top 5 in the draft. Isnt he suppose to elevate the talent around him and win? That's a knock on goff I hear alot.

 

[Giles]

I think we can say Cooks was a bad deal for us on all fronts - a first round pick plus $15 million per year and he's just an above average starter.

If a wr getting 1000 yards with 4 different quarterbacks is "above average" I'll take 3 of them. Cooks is very underrated and saying he's above average is a insult to his ability.

 

[UKram]

Yes, but using that logic, Goff is 0-7 without McVay. Watson is playing with subpar talent and coaching in HOU, and yet he threw for 4800+ yds, 33 TDs and 7 INTs at better than 70% completion rate. . Do you really think he goes 4-12 on the Rams in 2020???

Yeah goff is 0-7 in his first 7 starts ... look who his HC was the the king of 7-9 who know what might have happened had he started that year took his lumps early and maybe he wins the next 9 . As for Watson don’t Talk to me about subpar talent and when all year long we hear is .. a great QB elevates those around him .. it shouldn’t have to be perfect for a QB to win .. it the constant double standards that those that’s dont like goff spout that’s another annoying factor

We should trade goff to Houston for Watson because goff is this that and a bag of chips .. if goffs is as bad as you all say he is there ain’t a team in the league that would take him ... and if he is good as the reason stated for Houston to take him the we should keep him

 

[UKram]

It's that QB cult-like effect my man. That stuff (which you see on all team boards) is usually fine too btw, at least for a while but then you'll have some who take it so far that it prevents fair and unbiased evaluation of where the QB is at. We had the same shit back in the Bradford days with some losing their fucking minds over any sort of perceived insult of 8 and another group of lunatics who wanted to light his ass on fire over anything he did wrong.

As usual the truth is in the middle. People nowadays just have a habit of gravitating to the extremes. IMO.

I remember another QB that got run out of town after a shaky season (although I wasn’t officially a fan at that point) can’t quite remeber his name though .. was it Burt Werner some like that

 

[FrantikRam]

I remember another QB that got run out of town after a shaky season (although I wasn’t officially a fan at that point) can’t quite remeber his name though .. was it Burt Werner some like that

And it took him years to recover. It wouldn't have made sense to pay him while he got his mojo back

 

[UKram]

And it took him years to recover. It wouldn't have made sense to pay him while he got his mojo back

Maybe .... but while Martz was busy killing bulge with a death by a thousand sacks Arizona was killing us and going to a super bowl while we had those stellar bastions of Qb play of the like of Jamie Martin aj feely Kellen clemens Shaun hill aj feely Kyle boller


All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for