Good thing the Rams stayed the course with DL A'Shawn Robinson

[Florida_Ram]

There were several fans that thought DT A'Shawn Robinson after the first 7 games was barely average to maybe okay.

There was also speculation that A'Shawn might be a good trading piece before the trade deadline because of his production after the first 7 games not adding up to his salary cap hit.

I'm not doubting that his overall snap counts and performance over the first 7 games didn't warrant some of these thoughts.

A'Shawn has pretty much only been a rotational run stopping piece in the Rams DL rotation this season.

The Rams recently received bad news about their 2nd best interior defensive lineman Joseph-Day.

Maybe it was a fluke but the Rams (appeared to have misdiagnosed) their surging DT Sebastian Joseph-Day's pec injury.

Joseph-Day injured his pec during vs the Lions and was expected to miss a game or 2 based on the diagnoses from the Rams medical and training staff.

Sebastian's stat line vs the Lions in week 7 was 5 tackles, 3 solo, 1 sack, 1 Tackle for loss.

Why did the Rams medical and training staff think Joseph-Day's pec injury was only a one or two week issue?

Why did they clear him to practice this week if there were any tiny indications he should maybe heal up until after the bye week?

I'm not happy with their diagnoses of his pec. Maybe it was a fluke but now he needs surgery and seems to be lost for the rest of the regular season.

Did the Rams take the correct precautions with Joseph-Day? Was there an MRI done on his pec?

Fluke or not, I'm very happy the Rams stayed the course with A'Shawn Robinson. He maybe had his best game last Sunday at the Texans.

Hoping Bobby Brown III is ready to grow up fast and become a pro as his snap counts might start piling up over the next month.


Rooting hard for you A'Shawn Robinson to play more consistent and help Greg Gaines compensate for the loss of Joseph-Day.


Keep improving Big Fella

 

[blackbart]

I didn’t see anything to bring this staff into question. What I read was SJD hurt it again and set his recovery back. So much so, that he will no require surgery.

Robinson has a big opportunity along with Gaines. They have had reps and shown they can be effective. No reason to think they won’t.

 

[1maGoh]

If they kept him out and we lose the Titans game people would be complaining we were being over protective. Second guessing people based on zero evidence, doing it just because you dislike the outcome, is irrational.

 

[Florida_Ram]

If they kept him out and we lose the Titans game people would be complaining we were being over protective. Second guessing people based on zero evidence, doing it just because you dislike the outcome, is irrational.

Who the heck is second guessing?

The Rams cleared SJD to play in practice this week. There is a possibility they possibly misdiagnosed his pec injury and cleared him to come back too soon.

Because you don't like speculation and questions, it's irrational to wonder what happened and to have an opinion?

Read the entire post. (I said 2x it may have been a fluke.)

The subject line of the post was I'm glad the Rams stayed the course with A'Shawn Robinson to help Greg Gaines compensate for the loss of Joseph-Day.

 

[Kupped]

Bummed. I hope BB can step up and take some snaps. SJD was playing great.

 

[Allen2McVay]

There is a possibility they possibly misdiagnosed his pec injury and cleared him to come back too soon.

So it's possibly a possibility.

Seriously though, it's OK to speculate. However, I would just add that the Rams' Training Staff is very well regarded. That does not mean it's infallible but it may deserve the benefit of a doubt.

 

[Zodi]

Why did the Rams medical and training staff think Joseph-Day's pec injury was only a one or two week issue?

Why did they clear him to practice this week if there were any tiny indications he should maybe heal up until after the bye week?

I'm not happy with their diagnoses of his pec. Maybe it was a fluke but now he needs surgery and seems to be lost for the rest of the regular season.

Did the Rams take the correct precautions with Joseph-Day? Was there an MRI done on his pec?

Has this organization given you any reason to question their training staff prior to the SJD situation? Because I'm going to say no. Matter of fact, I think we have one of the best training staffs in the league and who am I to question their due diligence with a player's health.

 

[Florida_Ram]

Has this organization given you any reason to question their training staff prior to the SJD situation? Because I'm going to say no. Matter of fact, I think we have one of the best training staffs in the league and who am I to question their due diligence with a player's health.

Chill out Zodi..

I only added the concern that SJD was cleared too soon.

I also said it may have been a fluke.. Meaning SJD was a solid clear ready to go for the Titans.

This is not overreaction Monday.

The heart of this post was about being happy the Rams believed in A'Shawn Robinson and I'm glad they valued him the way they have.

Greg Gaines, A'Shawn and hopfully Bobby Brown continue to prove the Rams brass right about their value of the depth on this team.

 

[1maGoh]

I'm not happy with their diagnoses of his pec.

Did the Rams take the correct precautions with Joseph-Day? Was there an MRI done on his pec?

Why did the Rams medical and training staff think Joseph-Day's pec injury was only a one or two week issue?

There is a possibility they possibly misdiagnosed his pec injury and cleared him to come back too soon.

IDK. You're right. No second guessing going on here.

I like speculation. I'm not the anti-speculation guy on the board. In fact I told that guy I'm not going to stop speculating because I enjoy it. Speculate away. Asking if they did the right thing, asking if a specific test was done, and stating that you don't like their conclusion isn't speculation. It's just doubting. You're not asserting anything without facts, you're just doubting and questioning.

None of my business however. You're right that you have every right to express your doubt and dislike of what was done, I can say I think that's irrational, and everything is okay.

Sorry I ruffled your feathers man. I should have thought more before I posted.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Its good to have depth. I'm glad Gaines is still around. A'shawn is playing his role well enough. For the off-season hype around his trimmed physique yet massive build I really hoped he could take some of the attention off of AD in pass rush but I guess that just isn't his game. But he's been good in the run game. With Miller on the team all Robinson needs to do is stick with what he's doing and focus on run D.

 

[OnceARam]

I think the fact that SJD continued to play in the Detroit game after injuring his pec gave everyone a false hope that it was not a season ending injury. I think it's fine to try it out in practice before shutting him down for the year, just to make sure.

 

[Florida_Ram]

IDK. You're right. No second guessing going on here.

I like speculation. I'm not the anti-speculation guy on the board. In fact I told that guy I'm not going to stop speculating because I enjoy it. Speculate away. Asking if they did the right thing, asking if a specific test was done, and stating that you don't like their conclusion isn't speculation. It's just doubting. You're not asserting anything without facts, you're just doubting and questioning.

None of my business however. You're right that you have every right to express your doubt and dislike of what was done, I can say I think that's irrational, and everything is okay.

Sorry I ruffled your feathers man. I should have thought more before I posted.

touché 1maGoh

You didn't ruffle my feathers so much @1maGoh

After reading my post again it does come across as second guessing and speculation against our Rams top shelf doctors and trainers.

I'm bitter that we lost SJD. He was having a strong season and I'm very sad that he's not going to be in the middle of our D-Line for the last 9 games of the season.

Anyway my Rams brother... the point of the post was I'm damn glad the Rams brass didn't move on from A'Shawn.

Very happy that McVay and company kept A'Shawn in the loop. He had his best performance last Sunday at the hapless Texans and I'm going to be watching him closely vs the Titans Sunday night.

Go 2021 LA RAMS!

 

[Zodi]

I only added the concern that SJD was cleared too soon.

I also said it may have been a fluke..

You also questioned whether or not a top-flight NFL medical staff did basic testing on one of its players after an injury. Maybe I misunderstood your post but I interpreted it as maybe you were suggesting the training staff didn't do a good enough job with their initial diagnosis or perhaps rushed SJD to make the Titans game. None of us are happy about the SJD situation, but I don't fault the training staff for it and I doubt they were negligent with their diagnosis of his injury. Shit happens eh

 

[1maGoh]

@Florida_Ram I forgot to mention that I too am happy we stuck with Robinson. He may not be a world beater, but he's better than any practice squad JAG we could steal.

SJD being out has me worried about this game. Oh well. We'll see how it goes.

Go Rams.

 

[Mackeyser]

I'm not worried because we have Greg Gaines and he's been balling out.

 

[Kupped]

I'm not worried because we have Greg Gaines and he's been balling out.

He has!
I’m always worried about cranking up reps on other players. Tough to know how they’ll hold up. Robinson & others are what concern me more than Gaines though.

 

[shovelpass]

He has!
I’m always worried about cranking up reps on other players. Tough to know how they’ll hold up. Robinson & others are what concern me more than Gaines though.

That's the thing it's not just Gaines who's going to have to step and play more, SJD did more than play NT. He was also at 5T and 3T which means more time for Robinson, Hoecht and possibly Brown.

Overall I think the DL will be ok, but another thing to keep in mind is the level of competition is going up significantly. Hate to say it but NY, Det, and Hou are trash teams. Everyone on D feasted vs Hou.

 

[Kupped]

That's the thing it's not just Gaines who's going to have to step and play more, SJD did more than play NT. He was also at 5T and 3T which means more time for Robinson, Hoecht and possibly Brown.

Overall I think the DL will be ok, but another thing to keep in mind is the level of competition is going up significantly. Hate to say it but NY, Det, and Hou are trash teams. Everyone on D feasted vs Hou.

Oh, I wasn’t clear, you made my point better. I agree. I meant the impact it has on everyone who has to play more,

 

[CoachAllred]

Why did the Rams medical and training staff think Joseph-Day's pec injury was only a one or two week issue?

I am hoping that is a good sign. In other words if it were a bad tear then their staff would know pretty quickly.
That it was something that would require surgery.
I am hoping it turns out to be a very light tear.

From what I hear we have a very good medical staff. I don't think Sean or Stan
would settle for anything but top of the line. It' shows in everything
Ram related.

All I know is my fingers are crossed.

 

[Riverumbbq]

That's the thing it's not just Gaines who's going to have to step and play more, SJD did more than play NT. He was also at 5T and 3T which means more time for Robinson, Hoecht and possibly Brown.

Overall I think the DL will be ok, but another thing to keep in mind is the level of competition is going up significantly. Hate to say it but NY, Det, and Hou are trash teams. Everyone on D feasted vs Hou.

It will be a great test for our team's depth, no doubt. Robinson and Hoecht have been receiving significant snaps most of this season and Gaines seems to have already crossed a path in his development. Brown just had his 21'st birthday a month ago, he's like baby Huey being asked to save the day with his sizable girth. Just up from the Practice Squad will be Marquise Copeland, likely stealing snaps at 5T.
Morris will have to be very inventive in how he sets up his front 7, but they can swarm an offense given the opportunity. With Donald leading the pack, I have every confidence these guys will prevail.
The Titans will be starting a new RG as Nate Davis is injured, Derrick Henry is out, and AJ Brown may be a game day announcement for his availability.
If everyone comes to play and the Rams bring their 'A' game, we win.

jmo.