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We'll keep it in mind. Not sure we're ready to ban the subject but yeah - they get old.
Goff and Wentz thread v1.35
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I agree to an extent with that. After that hit and fumble McVay went with like 8 runs in a row or whatever, which could be construed the way you pointed out. As a matter of fact I said to myself on that next drive that McVay would immediately let him make some high percentage throws and get back into the flow of things. But instead McVay pointedly did not do that, going with all runs thereafter.
Which brings me to the scary version: that McVay didn't trust putting the ball right back in Jared's hands there. Right now, for myself, that is a very bad indicator. He purposely ate the clock up there and then stuck Mannion in. Not good dudes. Not good at all for us in a game that was our dress rehearsal for the season.
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Goff looked awesome at first, was viewing the field and going through his priorities well. Threw some nice balls and moved the ball. Then he got hit hard from the opposite direction that he was looking. Obviously effected him after that for whatever reason.
Point being, he has skills and he seems to have grasped the offense. Just needs experience and better oline play at this point. I won't say experience will solve all his issues because time will only tell that. But I see no reason to be hating on Goff... yet.
Point being, he has skills and he seems to have grasped the offense. Just needs experience and better oline play at this point. I won't say experience will solve all his issues because time will only tell that. But I see no reason to be hating on Goff... yet.
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I totally agree. He does need to show improvement over last season. If he has a mediocre year this year they may be looking to replace him. The pressure on him is huge. I really like his talent, I just feel like he needs to be developed.
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Goff is two years younger. Also played real good vs the Raiders. Edit, Also Goff played less games, ah can't wait to see Goff show what hes made of.
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Only person I've seen "hate on Goff" here is Kowalski.
Fact is that playing QB in this league requires toughness. Jared seemed to have that block checked given what he went through at Cal. But when he comes in for our dress rehearsal for the season and puts up a duck after taking a hit/fumble off the right side of the line, and then the coach on the next possession calls 8 runs in a row and brings in the backup QB before the end of the second half, there's a meaning in there somewhere.
It is worth discussing.
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I hear ya Jack but I just don't see the leadership, intensity, fire, arm strength, mobility and on and on.
But I promise to let it go for the rest of the year I just couldn't help myself after getting jacked up for the game tonight. Many variables like no Gurley etc.
Just frustrated after watching Wentz again. Have I said how much I hate Fisher?
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Absolutely, no problem with that. I'm kind of curious about the way McVay handled this whole game and particularly Goff and why. But it's preseason and McVay is a rookie at this too. So there will be growing pains at times. Hopefully they fix enough of it by week 1.
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Considering they started 8 backups on defense and none in the front seven, I'm not so sure they considered this game a dress rehearsal for the season. If it really was a dress rehearsal, I would think Goff would have gotten more time to rebound from couple bad plays.
Its interesting how many people take a "sky is falling" stance with a poor preseason start. Probably the same ones who proclaimed we have arrived after a good game last week. Fans, ya gotta love em.
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Its interesting how many people take a "sky is falling" stance with a poor preseason start. Probably the same ones who proclaimed we have arrived after a good game last week. Fans, ya gotta love em.
What's interesting to myself is how attempting to discuss concerns over a dress rehearsal third game result means one is acting like a chicken little.
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That's what I was thinking. Maybe a broken finger. Hopefully not.
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Yeah hopefully not. And I'd have to think McVay would have pulled him for anything injury-related in preseason even game 3.
What I'm hoping is McVay didn't trust the protections. But still it's a concern.
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I'll throw out an alternative theory: McVay didn't want to go pass-heavy behind the second-team OL with Goff.
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Heard the leadership thing with Bradford and Bulger. Without being in the huddle, locker room, in the meetings with these guys, how can you know if someone is a leader. Not everybody is fiery. That's a fan critique I've never gotten.