Glennon For A Third Rounder?

[DaveFan'51]

I'd rather roll with Keenum. Or Mannion for that matter and surround them with weapons.

This says it all!!:icare:

 

[Prime Time]

We appear to be committed to "build through the draft", let's stay the course.

My observation about this regime...High profile free agents like Jake Long and Jared Cook did not pan out so they won't spend a ton of money on in their eyes other teams failures Kevin Demoff even eluded to this in his recent presentation.

IMO because the trade of Foles did not work out again they won't pursue a trade this regime has always felt the proper way to build a team is through the draft and that's why IMO, that is where the future Field General of the Los Angeles Rams will emerge, for better or worse.

^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What the Rams have done so far in free agency...



...should tell us all we need to know about how they plan to build this team.

I really thought the Rams would make a splash by signing some big name players in order to get the fan base in LA all excited. I was wrong. There will be no big trades or gambling by throwing tons of cash at players who might or might not work out, in the foreseeable future under Fisher/Snead.

The tortoise rather than the hare style is boring but will hopefully pay off in the future. Personally I don't like it because I want the team to win now but Fisher/Snead have stopped consulting me for my opinion. :shades:

 

[den-the-coach]

but Fisher/Snead have stopped consulting me for my opinion. :shades:

Well, if they did, they'd be far better than 7-9.

 

[RamFan503]

There will be no big trades or gambling by throwing tons of cash at players who might or might not work out, in the foreseeable future under Fisher/Snead.

From my understanding, that is what you will see handed down from Stan as well. I don't think he likes that model, but who knows.

As far as Glennon goes..... NO. If we are going to really do something about the QB situation, let's not dick around. Go after one in the draft or groom the ones we've got until we can. If there were a chance to go after an actual starting caliber QB in FA or trade then I'd be ok with that but not yet another QB that really doesn't belong as a full time starter.

 

[Prime Time]

From my understanding, that is what you will see handed down from Stan as well. I don't think he likes that model, but who knows.

I seem to remember at the beginning of the Fisher/Snead regime that they wanted to model the Rams after the Patriots model, who end up picking late in every draft but stockpile picks and make good player decisions and build mainly through the draft. The thing is, Belichick has made some excellent free agency signings even if most of them were not of the "big name" variety. Interestingly, Randy Moss was left off this list.

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/f...03/11/20-best-free-agent-signings-bill-belich

Bill Belichick's Best Free Agency Signings

20. Keith Traylor (acquired in 2004) -- The veteran defensive lineman only spent one season in New England, but his work with then-rookie Vince Wilfork did a lot when it came to preparing Wilfork for the rigors of succeeding in the trenches at the NFL level. Played with the Patriots in 2004.

19. Damon Huard (2001) -- One of the most notable of Tom Brady’s backups, he distinguished himself for two reasons. One, he looked more like Matthew Perry than any other quarterback in the league. And two, his work as the scout team quarterback in the week leading up to the 2003 AFC title game against the Colts (Huard spent the whole week serving as Peyton Manning’s stand-in during practice) was good enough to get him a postgame shout-out from Belichick and a game ball for his efforts. Played with the Patriots from 2001-2003.

18. Larry Izzo (2001) --A gonzo linebacker who made his bones as a special teamer, Izzo was absolutely invaluable when it came to making over the special teams unit. While he wasn’t an every-down player, he made his mark in several other areas, and was a locker room favorite. Played with the Patriots from 2001-08.

17. Christian Fauria (2002) -- The tight end position wasn’t always a perennial Pro Bowl spot for the Patriots, and this journeyman was able to bring some consistency and veteran leadership to the position after arriving in 2002. In four seasons with the Patriots, he caught 45 passes, including 13 touchdowns, and was a steady and reliable presence at a position that didn’t have a whole lot of either at the time. Played with the Patriots from 2002-05.

16. Bryan Cox (2001) -- Another one-year guy, Cox was another transformative presence in the locker room. Many consider his September 2001 hit on Colts wide receiver Jerome Pathon -- in Tom Brady’s first NFL start -- as the moment when things started to turn for the Patriots that season. An eminently quotable presence in the New England locker room, his season ended early because of a leg injury, but his influence was felt throughout the year. Played for the Patriots in 2001.

15. Mark Anderson (2011) -- Similar to Andre Carter, Anderson spent just one season with the Patriots, but he distinguished himself as a good situational pass-rusher who provided a boost on the outside for the New England defense. Saw an uptick in his playing time after Carter went down for the season early, and finished the year with 10 sacks, which was good enough to earn a big deal last offseason from the Bills. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

14. Anthony Pleasant (2001) -- This veteran defensive lineman had little left in the tank when he arrived in New England, but he was another transformative force in the Patriots locker room, serving as a veteran presence for young defensive linemen like Richard Seymour in the early days of the New England dynasty. Another Belichick guy -- he followed him from the Browns to the Jets before coming to New England -- he had six sacks in 2001. Played with the Patriots from 2001-03.

13. Leigh Bodden (2009) --The only guy who could earn a spot on both the best and worst free agent signing lists. In his first season in New England, he ripped it up, coming out of nowhere to post five picks and having one of the better single seasons for a defensive back in recent franchise history. He then signed a four-year, $22 million deal with the Patriots the following offseason, and never managed to bounce back from injury -- he played just five games after signing the deal, (he went on season-ending IR at the start of the 2010 campaign) and was eventually released in October 2011. Played with the Patriots from 2009-11.

12. Rosevelt Colvin (2003) -- You knew Belichick liked him in 2002 when he brought his name up unsolicited on several occasions in the week leading up to a game against the Bears that season. So in the offseason, it was no surprise that the Patriots went out and spent (relatively) heavily on acquiring the likeable Colvin, who was a very good pass-rushing presence when healthy. In all, he had 26.5 sacks in 65 regular-season games with New England. Played with the Patriots from 2003-08.

11. Alge Crumpler (2010) --He didn’t set the world on fire statistically in his only season in New England (6 catches, 52 yards, 2 touchdowns), but he was an important locker room presence who helped then-rookies Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez with the bumps that go along with life in the NFL. Played with the Patriots in 2010.

10. Antowain Smith (2001) -- The running back was considered a bit of a project after a few successful years with the Bills, but he was a perfect fit in New England for most of three seasons, helping power the running game from 2001 through 2003. Not an elite back, he managed to do a pretty consistent job moving the chains and keeping drives alive -- in two of his three seasons, he rushed for at least 980 yards. Played for the Patriots from 2001-03.

9. Roman Phifer (2001) -- Another former Belichick guy who was imported to help get the new guys up to speed with the coach, Phifer was a talented physical presence who also brought a cerebral approach to the game. The inside linebacker was one of the best linebackers in the league when it came to pass coverage -- in part, it was his work in the 2003 playoffs against Indy’s pass-catchers that helped spur former Colts exec Bill Polian to institute rule changes that would help receivers get more leeway when it comes to hand-checking. Played with the Patriots from 2001-04.

8. Danny Woodhead (2010) -- The running back was a rare in-season free agent pickup -- he was cast off by the Jets that September -- and would go on to become a key cog in the New England offense. He signed a new deal that November, and would help ease the post-Kevin Faulk era when it came to looking for a pass-catcher out of the backfield. (This past season, he became the first New England running back since Faulk to post at least 40 catches and 40 carries in a season.) Played with the Patriots from 2009-present (currently a free agent).

7. David Patten (2001) -- One of the singularly nicest men in the game, Patten was a pro football journeyman (which included a stint in the Arena League) before he hooked on with New England prior to the 2001 season. Patten, who signed with the Patriots for next to nothing, ended up having an extraordinary four-year career with New England, catching 165 passes for 2,513 yards and 16 touchdowns. (In 2001, he became just the sixth player in NFL history to run for a touchdown, catch a touchdown pass and throw for a touchdown in the same game in a win over the Colts.) Played with the Patriots from 2001-04. He signed with New England again in 2010 but retired days into training camp.

6. Andre Carter (2011) -- The veteran defensive end spent just one season in New England but established himself as a clubhouse leader and very good situational pass-rusher. He had 10 sacks in 2011 and played a key role on the defensive side of the ball before going down with a season-ending calf injury in December. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

5. Brian Waters (2011) -- Waters was the consummate pro in his one season with the Patriots, stepping into the right guard spot a week before the season began and playing more than 90 percent of the snaps at the position over the course of the year. It may have ended weirdly for him with New England this past year, but for that stretch, he was a terrific presence up front. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

4. Rob Ninkovich (2009) -- A part-time long snapper who had trouble catching on with the Saints and Dolphins early in his career, Ninkovich signed with the Patriots in the summer of 2009 and has become an indispensable part of the New England defense -- in 2011, only two players in the NFL had at least six sacks and two picks: Ninkovich and Baltimore’s Terrell Suggs. Played with the Patriots from 2009-present.

3. Junior Seau (2006) -- The veteran linebacker ended up coming out of retirement for what would be portions of four seasons with New England. He actually became a pretty important part of the defense in 2006 and 2007 -- he finished the 2007 season with 3.5 picks -- and left an indelible imprint on the franchise with his leadership skills and intensity. Played with the Patriots from 2006-09.

2. Mike Vrabel (2001) -- The linebacker was wasting away on the bench in Pittsburgh -- he was considering quitting the game and going to law school -- before he was signed by the Patriots in the spring of 2001. Instead of becoming a lawyer, he turned into one of the most important parts of the New England dynasty. The outside linebacker played eight seasons with the Patriots and came away with 48 sacks and three Super Bowl rings. Played with the Patriots from 2001-08.

1. Rodney Harrison (2003) -- Simply put, it’s hard to overstate the impact that Harrison had on the franchise during a key stretch. Signed in the spring of 2003 -- after a visit to New England that included a stop at Ground Round, of all places -- he was able to keep things together when it looked like it was about to come bursting apart in the wake of the decision to release Lawyer Milloy that September. His leadership, attitude and feistiness were vital to the success of the franchise, and he remains one of the best defenders in recent franchise history. Played with the Patriots from 2003-08.

 

[RamFan503]

I seem to remember at the beginning of the Fisher/Snead regime that they wanted to model the Rams after the Patriots model, who end up picking late in every draft but stockpile picks and make good player decisions and build mainly through the draft. The thing is, Belichick has made some excellent free agency signings even if most of them were not of the "big name" variety. Interestingly, Randy Moss was left off this list.

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/f...03/11/20-best-free-agent-signings-bill-belich

Bill Belichick's Best Free Agency Signings

20. Keith Traylor (acquired in 2004) -- The veteran defensive lineman only spent one season in New England, but his work with then-rookie Vince Wilfork did a lot when it came to preparing Wilfork for the rigors of succeeding in the trenches at the NFL level. Played with the Patriots in 2004.

19. Damon Huard (2001) -- One of the most notable of Tom Brady’s backups, he distinguished himself for two reasons. One, he looked more like Matthew Perry than any other quarterback in the league. And two, his work as the scout team quarterback in the week leading up to the 2003 AFC title game against the Colts (Huard spent the whole week serving as Peyton Manning’s stand-in during practice) was good enough to get him a postgame shout-out from Belichick and a game ball for his efforts. Played with the Patriots from 2001-2003.

18. Larry Izzo (2001) --A gonzo linebacker who made his bones as a special teamer, Izzo was absolutely invaluable when it came to making over the special teams unit. While he wasn’t an every-down player, he made his mark in several other areas, and was a locker room favorite. Played with the Patriots from 2001-08.

17. Christian Fauria (2002) -- The tight end position wasn’t always a perennial Pro Bowl spot for the Patriots, and this journeyman was able to bring some consistency and veteran leadership to the position after arriving in 2002. In four seasons with the Patriots, he caught 45 passes, including 13 touchdowns, and was a steady and reliable presence at a position that didn’t have a whole lot of either at the time. Played with the Patriots from 2002-05.

16. Bryan Cox (2001) -- Another one-year guy, Cox was another transformative presence in the locker room. Many consider his September 2001 hit on Colts wide receiver Jerome Pathon -- in Tom Brady’s first NFL start -- as the moment when things started to turn for the Patriots that season. An eminently quotable presence in the New England locker room, his season ended early because of a leg injury, but his influence was felt throughout the year. Played for the Patriots in 2001.

15. Mark Anderson (2011) -- Similar to Andre Carter, Anderson spent just one season with the Patriots, but he distinguished himself as a good situational pass-rusher who provided a boost on the outside for the New England defense. Saw an uptick in his playing time after Carter went down for the season early, and finished the year with 10 sacks, which was good enough to earn a big deal last offseason from the Bills. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

14. Anthony Pleasant (2001) -- This veteran defensive lineman had little left in the tank when he arrived in New England, but he was another transformative force in the Patriots locker room, serving as a veteran presence for young defensive linemen like Richard Seymour in the early days of the New England dynasty. Another Belichick guy -- he followed him from the Browns to the Jets before coming to New England -- he had six sacks in 2001. Played with the Patriots from 2001-03.

13. Leigh Bodden (2009) --The only guy who could earn a spot on both the best and worst free agent signing lists. In his first season in New England, he ripped it up, coming out of nowhere to post five picks and having one of the better single seasons for a defensive back in recent franchise history. He then signed a four-year, $22 million deal with the Patriots the following offseason, and never managed to bounce back from injury -- he played just five games after signing the deal, (he went on season-ending IR at the start of the 2010 campaign) and was eventually released in October 2011. Played with the Patriots from 2009-11.

12. Rosevelt Colvin (2003) -- You knew Belichick liked him in 2002 when he brought his name up unsolicited on several occasions in the week leading up to a game against the Bears that season. So in the offseason, it was no surprise that the Patriots went out and spent (relatively) heavily on acquiring the likeable Colvin, who was a very good pass-rushing presence when healthy. In all, he had 26.5 sacks in 65 regular-season games with New England. Played with the Patriots from 2003-08.

11. Alge Crumpler (2010) --He didn’t set the world on fire statistically in his only season in New England (6 catches, 52 yards, 2 touchdowns), but he was an important locker room presence who helped then-rookies Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez with the bumps that go along with life in the NFL. Played with the Patriots in 2010.

10. Antowain Smith (2001) -- The running back was considered a bit of a project after a few successful years with the Bills, but he was a perfect fit in New England for most of three seasons, helping power the running game from 2001 through 2003. Not an elite back, he managed to do a pretty consistent job moving the chains and keeping drives alive -- in two of his three seasons, he rushed for at least 980 yards. Played for the Patriots from 2001-03.

9. Roman Phifer (2001) -- Another former Belichick guy who was imported to help get the new guys up to speed with the coach, Phifer was a talented physical presence who also brought a cerebral approach to the game. The inside linebacker was one of the best linebackers in the league when it came to pass coverage -- in part, it was his work in the 2003 playoffs against Indy’s pass-catchers that helped spur former Colts exec Bill Polian to institute rule changes that would help receivers get more leeway when it comes to hand-checking. Played with the Patriots from 2001-04.

8. Danny Woodhead (2010) -- The running back was a rare in-season free agent pickup -- he was cast off by the Jets that September -- and would go on to become a key cog in the New England offense. He signed a new deal that November, and would help ease the post-Kevin Faulk era when it came to looking for a pass-catcher out of the backfield. (This past season, he became the first New England running back since Faulk to post at least 40 catches and 40 carries in a season.) Played with the Patriots from 2009-present (currently a free agent).

7. David Patten (2001) -- One of the singularly nicest men in the game, Patten was a pro football journeyman (which included a stint in the Arena League) before he hooked on with New England prior to the 2001 season. Patten, who signed with the Patriots for next to nothing, ended up having an extraordinary four-year career with New England, catching 165 passes for 2,513 yards and 16 touchdowns. (In 2001, he became just the sixth player in NFL history to run for a touchdown, catch a touchdown pass and throw for a touchdown in the same game in a win over the Colts.) Played with the Patriots from 2001-04. He signed with New England again in 2010 but retired days into training camp.

6. Andre Carter (2011) -- The veteran defensive end spent just one season in New England but established himself as a clubhouse leader and very good situational pass-rusher. He had 10 sacks in 2011 and played a key role on the defensive side of the ball before going down with a season-ending calf injury in December. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

5. Brian Waters (2011) -- Waters was the consummate pro in his one season with the Patriots, stepping into the right guard spot a week before the season began and playing more than 90 percent of the snaps at the position over the course of the year. It may have ended weirdly for him with New England this past year, but for that stretch, he was a terrific presence up front. Played with the Patriots in 2011.

4. Rob Ninkovich (2009) -- A part-time long snapper who had trouble catching on with the Saints and Dolphins early in his career, Ninkovich signed with the Patriots in the summer of 2009 and has become an indispensable part of the New England defense -- in 2011, only two players in the NFL had at least six sacks and two picks: Ninkovich and Baltimore’s Terrell Suggs. Played with the Patriots from 2009-present.

3. Junior Seau (2006) -- The veteran linebacker ended up coming out of retirement for what would be portions of four seasons with New England. He actually became a pretty important part of the defense in 2006 and 2007 -- he finished the 2007 season with 3.5 picks -- and left an indelible imprint on the franchise with his leadership skills and intensity. Played with the Patriots from 2006-09.

2. Mike Vrabel (2001) -- The linebacker was wasting away on the bench in Pittsburgh -- he was considering quitting the game and going to law school -- before he was signed by the Patriots in the spring of 2001. Instead of becoming a lawyer, he turned into one of the most important parts of the New England dynasty. The outside linebacker played eight seasons with the Patriots and came away with 48 sacks and three Super Bowl rings. Played with the Patriots from 2001-08.

1. Rodney Harrison (2003) -- Simply put, it’s hard to overstate the impact that Harrison had on the franchise during a key stretch. Signed in the spring of 2003 -- after a visit to New England that included a stop at Ground Round, of all places -- he was able to keep things together when it looked like it was about to come bursting apart in the wake of the decision to release Lawyer Milloy that September. His leadership, attitude and feistiness were vital to the success of the franchise, and he remains one of the best defenders in recent franchise history. Played with the Patriots from 2003-08.

To me that is not that impressive of a list. I would say that most would consider the patsies to not be huge FA buyers. A lot of stop gap guys in that list.

 

[DR RAM]

To me that is not that impressive of a list. I would say that most would consider the patsies to not be huge FA buyers. A lot of stop gap guys in that list.

Yeah, that is how they do it. They rent a player for a year or two. What they are good at is finding players that buy in and fit their system. They find square players for square holes.

 

[Prime Time]

Yeah, that is how they do it. They rent a player for a year or two. What they are good at is finding players that buy in and fit their system. They find square players for square holes.

Exactly. They don't overspend and they cut players early instead of signing them to big contracts as they head into their twilight years. There are exceptions of course but they are few and far between.

 

[Prime Time]

No trade, he's not worth it for the Rams - 46 votes 76.7%

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

4. Rob Ninkovich (2009) -- A part-time long snapper who had trouble catching on with the Saints and Dolphins early in his career, Ninkovich signed with the Patriots in the summer of 2009 and has become an indispensable part of the New England defense -- in 2011, only two players in the NFL had at least six sacks and two picks: Ninkovich and Baltimore’s Terrell Suggs. Played with the Patriots from 2009-present.

I still marvel at how this signing turned out. Ninkovich looked like dead wood at one point.

To me that is not that impressive of a list. I would say that most would consider the patsies to not be huge FA buyers. A lot of stop gap guys in that list.

That is the point. They are conservative with free agency and build mostly through the draft.

 

[A55VA6]

No thanks.

 

[RamFan503]

That is the point. They are conservative with free agency and build mostly through the draft.

Yeah - I get that. And though I hate to say it, I like what they do in FA most of the time. That is also why I'm not really surprised nor upset that we didn't go ape shit in FA.

 

[RamFan503]

No trade, he's not worth it for the Rams - 46 votes 76.7%

Poor Foles. That bully ought to leave him alone.

 

[Roman Snow]

No trade, he's not worth it for the Rams - 46 votes 76.7%

Who would have thought that bully would grow a long mane and play for the Packers.