PREGAME Giants at Rams Pregame Thread

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Maybe not anyone here, but good Lord…the talking heads are now either saying we’re already missing the playoffs or if we lose, we’re absolutely cooked for the season, plus our window is gone, our cap is screwed and just fir good measure, locusts are gonna eat all our crops…

Not a hint of blue text in sight, either…

Ya maybe I’m drawing too much of my perspective from people outside of this forum. But all this talk of overrated and the Rams have big problems is just a joke. Especially if you were on the opposite side of that spectrum before the season.
 
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Well hopefully the Rams beat the Giants asses and we have a week of relative contentment. The next month's schedule is brutal, but one game at a time and let's go get the dub.

I think they need to prioritize stopping the run. Do that and our defense should have plenty of third and longs with Dart who is a young QB. From there I like our chances.

But they also need to unfuck their protections. OL needs to show up because Harbaugh's gonna be dialing up physicality. Bank it.
 
Well hopefully the Rams beat the Giants asses and we have a week of relative contentment. The next month's schedule is brutal, but one game at a time and let's go get the dub.

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We will rally around Dolac and play good football! He might be an improvement on Omar anyway. The safety situation is troubling though. Seems like Kitchens is going to be out. Curl potentially as well.
Dolac ain’t big but he’s a tackling machine and I believe our best coverage ILB. Some of this may be wishful thinking, but I’ve always liked him since I saw him play live versus the ravens last year.
 
The Giants have stepped up under Harbaugh and it seemed the Cowboys have stepped down. That's what I saw...BUT...have the Giants stepped up enough where they can beat the Rams. Hoping to see action form the rookie CJ Daniels this game too.

I see the Giants coming with a "clock eating run and short pass game". trying to keep the Ram offense off the field...so my conclusion is:

Rams 27 Giants 17
 
Giants fans around here basically said they not afraid of Rams because they play the Eagles twice a Year! They are prob right. Giants players seems to Echo the Same as the Fans.Not afraid of us whatsoever!

30.5 Pts/ GM is the Avg Giants Offense put up when Dart and Skattebo are on the Field together. Keep in mind Who thier Coach is now. This was before the Coach change.

Stafford has a losing record on Monday Night games, both Career and as a Ram only. 6-11
However hes 5-2 vs Giants , and 2 of his MNF wins Come vs Giants!

If our Offense is on and defense can do something, then it will be Rams 38-23
If not it will be 30-14 Giants Easy.
 
our new corners were poorly utilized by our DC,

Listening to Between The Horns today, MJD mentioned that they can play press with the new CBs.

MJD doesn't care if the Rams are running a man playbook or a zone playbook. His point is that you cannot take aggressive, physical cornerbacks and make them stand 8 yards away from the play. You need to bring them down to the line of scrimmage, let them get their hands dirty, and trust them to win their individual battles.

Wade Phillips used a hybrid system where DBs would cover a receiver; once he left his area, they would switch who covered him.
It's called Matchup Zone. This would work with McD and Watson. They can play aggressively close to the line of scrimmage stay with their man and have options to go zone or stay man-to-man. McD could cover the #1 WR like Nabors the entire time.

I see too many holes in the current zone. Guys stand in the middle of the field and let a receiver go right past them, and then are wide-open easy targets for the QB.

I want to know how you would use them.
 
Listening to Between The Horns today, MJD mentioned that they can play press with the new CBs.

MJD doesn't care if the Rams are running a man playbook or a zone playbook. His point is that you cannot take aggressive, physical cornerbacks and make them stand 8 yards away from the play. You need to bring them down to the line of scrimmage, let them get their hands dirty, and trust them to win their individual battles.

Wade Phillips used a hybrid system where DBs would cover a receiver; once he left his area, they would switch who covered him.
It's called Matchup Zone. This would work with McD and Watson. They can play aggressively close to the line of scrimmage stay with their man and have options to go zone or stay man-to-man. McD could cover the #1 WR like Nabors the entire time.

I see too many holes in the current zone. Guys stand in the middle of the field and let a receiver go right past them, and then are wide-open easy targets for the QB.

I want to know how you would use them.
Was good to hear MJD validating fan's take on how those two were deployed. There is no reason they can't have been deployed in man press and force Purdy to make more difficult throws.
 
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Since I will be there for this game: Question, do I wear the Sol jersey I have since the team will be wearing them, even though its a Garrett jersey (who's not playing) or do I wear a jersey of an active player in white or blue? I'm a bit superstitious
 
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Since I will be there for this game: Question, do I wear the Sol jersey I have since the team will be wearing them, even though its a Garrett jersey (who's not playing) or do I wear a jersey of an active player in white or blue? I'm a bit superstitious
Wear the Myles Yellow. Represent. We still plan on winning it all with him as THE key piece.
 
Listening to Between The Horns today, MJD mentioned that they can play press with the new CBs.

MJD doesn't care if the Rams are running a man playbook or a zone playbook. His point is that you cannot take aggressive, physical cornerbacks and make them stand 8 yards away from the play. You need to bring them down to the line of scrimmage, let them get their hands dirty, and trust them to win their individual battles.

Wade Phillips used a hybrid system where DBs would cover a receiver; once he left his area, they would switch who covered him.
It's called Matchup Zone. This would work with McD and Watson. They can play aggressively close to the line of scrimmage stay with their man and have options to go zone or stay man-to-man. McD could cover the #1 WR like Nabors the entire time.

I see too many holes in the current zone. Guys stand in the middle of the field and let a receiver go right past them, and then are wide-open easy targets for the QB.

I want to know how you would use them.
Vs the fortyshitters I'd play our corners in their faces and have them prepped to recognize SF's most used backfield screens/passes. The problem with man coverage is when you flip your back to the QB your secondary is not as effective in run support. And I think this is why the Rams prefer that off coverage zone nonsense. That and their conservative mentality of "making them hike the ball again" which is horseshit in my opinion.

The Giants are a different animal because they've got more juice at wideout. I think vs their offense and due to the young QB, mixing up coverages pre and post snap is key, so Dart won't get what he's expecting and that might get him out of rhythm and holding the ball that extra beat for the rush to get home. But overall the core approach for most snaps would be putting McDuffie on Likely and doubling Nabers with some safety help over the top.

Where the two offenses are similar is we're gonna need to shut down NY's run game. At the very least contain it. If we end up with Skattebo running loose in our secondary we're in trouble.

And our offense needs to show up as well of course. If they come out looking like a bitch ass unit with 3 'n outs and Stafford shitting his pants I would bench him at halftime and put Simpson in. Simply because at least Simpson adds mobility, the fresh legs and all that, it preserves Stafford in the event he plans to find his balls at any point this season, and it forces McVay to keep the run game balance. Though run game balance was not the problem vs SF, which is part of the reason I'm so angry at Stafford for how he looked.
 
"Week 1 is a liar"
Very much true. Every year there are some great teams that get their ass kicked or at least lose unexpectedly in week 1. I think the anger of it being the Whiners exasperates the feelings and deservingly so but people need to step back from the ledge for now.
 
Vs the fortyshitters I'd play our corners in their faces and have them prepped to recognize SF's most used backfield screens/passes. The problem with man coverage is when you flip your back to the QB your secondary is not as effective in run support. And I think this is why the Rams prefer that off coverage zone nonsense. That and their conservative mentality of "making them hike the ball again" which is horseshit in my opinion.

The Giants are a different animal because they've got more juice at wideout. I think vs their offense and due to the young QB, mixing up coverages pre and post snap is key, so Dart won't get what he's expecting and that might get him out of rhythm and holding the ball that extra beat for the rush to get home. But overall the core approach for most snaps would be putting McDuffie on Likely and doubling Nabers with some safety help over the top.

Where the two offenses are similar is we're gonna need to shut down NY's run game. At the very least contain it. If we end up with Skattebo running loose in our secondary we're in trouble.

And our offense needs to show up as well of course. If they come out looking like a bitch ass unit with 3 'n outs and Stafford shitting his pants I would bench him at halftime and put Simpson in. Simply because at least Simpson adds mobility, the fresh legs and all that, it preserves Stafford in the event he plans to find his balls at any point this season, and it forces McVay to keep the run game balance. Though run game balance was not the problem vs SF, which is part of the reason I'm so angry at Stafford for how he looked.
Interesting observations and ideas of their defense for this game, I tend to agree with it, however, I think I'd put Lake on Likely for a bit more size. I think I'd have McDuffie attach himself to Nabors.

Not sure if they will even have Simpson active, he was just the emergency QB in the last game, so they couldn't have actually played him unless injuries.
 
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Not sure if they will even have Simpson active, he was just the emergency QB in the last game, so they couldn't have actually played him unless injuries.
Good point. And I would ask McVay what's the value in not having both QBs up when his special teams unit is predictably ass. As per usual. I mean how much worse can it get. You can't tell me sitting one of our completely ineffective depth wideouts isn't a wiser call, for example.
 
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