G/C at 31?

[wolfdogg]

I don't listen to the typical media mock drafters. They tend to pick based on what they see as pressing needs. They don't have the same understanding of the Rams that we do.

Yeah, they usually dismiss the 2nd year guys and make knee jerk draft picks to fill holes. When you look at the context of when they picked Allen and noteboom and what they've done to this point in deserving the teams confidence, its hard to see a olineman being the pick when a needed dlineman stud should be available as well as a later round swingman for the offense.

Noteboom and Allen are the future and this may very well be the llast year for brockers.

 

[RamDino]

IF the Rams can grab a stud at DT in the first round, they should draft him, because of need. If a stud at DT isn't there, and Garrett Bradbury is available, I would draft him. The team needs a great Center/Guard prospect for now and next year. If a stud DT or stud O-Lineman isn't available, I would try to trade down. Keep building from the lines out. Just my two cents.

 

[LesBaker]

Blythe got abused in the SB

Not really his fault though. When the defense knows what's coming, pass or run, over 80% of the time the OL is going to end up looking bad.

Hope we go defense

Same here, and OL.

Snead’s hand was forced in McVay’s first two years because Snead knew that he needed to bring in talent at many positions and needed to do so quickly.

Snead had already brought in a lot of talent, look at the Rams in McVay's first year.

The biggest difference was that they were successful in free agency, whereas they had not been in the past. Snead drafted (along with Fisher) a lot of seriously talented players. The roster just needed a few tweaks and they got it done.

Goff needed targets and an OL. And he needed the VERY BIG THING.........a system that wasn't as Todd Gurley said "middle school offense". Goff flourished right away, and it's due to the system and a few free agents.

IMO had Fisher hired an OC like McVay or someone like him he'd still be the HC.

What does all this mean? I think that it means that we should be prepared for anything come draft time. I mean, tradeup, tradedown, or any of 11 possible positions with their first pick. EVERYTHING is on the table for Snead.

LOL this is one of the reasons we really respect Snead. He is not afraid of change, and he is willing to strike a deal. If he wants a guy that he thinks he has to move up 15 spots for you know he is going to find a way to do just that. If he feels like he can get the guy they would take at 31 ten picks into the second round you know he'll move down.

He's fearless.

I'm not happy that he didn't get Executive of the Year the year Gurley, Donald and McVay all got their awards.

Howie Roseman was a good pick, but the fact that all of the main awards went to people than Snead selected or was influential in their selection should have been enough to close that deal.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Why not grab Nate Davis in round 3?

He may not even make it that far!

I think you answered your own question.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Demby got cut by two different teams in 2018, including the Rams.. That doesn't mean he can't play - but it does make it more likely he isn't the guy for 2019. If he were special, two teams wouldn't have cut him.

To be fair I think he was one of our last cuts and we snatched him off the practice squad of Detroit, so while he was "technically" cut twice, two teams actually wanted him.

The Rams wanted him enough to put them on the active roster.

All players develop at a different rate so I wouldn't discount Demby as a potential backup game-day active.

 

[Soul Surfer]

True.
Centers and Guards, unless they are extremely dominant, are usually found in later rounds.

Shutdown corners and Left Tackles ?
Not so much.

 

[wolfdogg]

Articles suggesting the rams keep noteboom on the bench while starting a rookie guard just seems absurd especially if you have to use the 31st pick. I seriously doubt that any guard in this years bunch could be a better option than noteboom this season and dont you want your best 5 linemen on the field.

Let the rookie develop for a year.

I also see great benefit for noteboom playing next to whit in regards to him taking over next year. In-game action advice will be more helpful than watching from the sideline.

 

[A55VA6]

I think it's obvious the Rams want to roll with Noteboom at LG and Allen at C this year. I think we could draft OL, just probably not in round 1 or 2. Just my opinion.

 

[BonifayRam]

Rams will pay out over $23 million this season for our 3 top CB's. Two of which will be UFA's in 10 months. Peters will be looking for a big pay raise & Talib can still can get $8 to $9 million a season @ his old age. If I was looking at this situation with a strong lean towards saving big salary cap $$$ next season ...........an outside corner with the #31 selection makes good sense to me.

Another thing is IF Noteboom is now your starter @ LG who going to be the LT back up? Not an easy find is it. Who going to get all those reps with the first team OL @ LT when they rest Whitworth in practice all season....& he will need more rest this season than he got last year if you want to keep him fresh & able to start for the full season.

So Is going with your starting LG Noteboom as your game day LT reserve a smart sound plan? Whitworth goes down..... now you instantly have two new starters blocking for Goff's blind side:eek: in the middle of a game:shocking:. Good chance both of these starters will not have many offensive snaps @ these two OL posts either.

 

[Rams43]

Articles suggesting the rams keep noteboom on the bench while starting a rookie guard just seems absurd especially if you have to use the 31st pick. I seriously doubt that any guard in this years bunch could be a better option than noteboom this season and dont you want your best 5 linemen on the field.

Let the rookie develop for a year.

I also see great benefit for noteboom playing next to whit in regards to him taking over next year. In-game action advice will be more helpful than watching from the sideline.

Well, I see this draft as one to acquire players for development to be starters. Perhaps as soon as next year in ‘20. That’s with the exception of DL and maybe Edge.

So, if I’m right, then a blue chip C/G would make a lot of sense. Along with 10 other positions. Lol.

Honestly, I think everything is on the table for Snead. Probably just the way he likes it.

 

[Akrasian]

I think it's obvious the Rams want to roll with Noteboom at LG and Allen at C this year. I think we could draft OL, just probably not in round 1 or 2. Just my opinion.

They'll likely need two guards in 2020. For backups this year they could use a T/G combo guy, and another guard - preferably who can play center, though he could be drafted fairly late. It wouldn't shock me if they traded down, and took a tackle who could move to guard in the 2nd. Other positions are more likely, but he would instantly become a key backup, and a likely starter in 2020. But yeah, a guard/center at 31 is unlikely. They have Allen at center for very cheap for 3 seasons - and they apparently like what they see. They aren't going to upgrade him using their highest pick in the McVay era.

 

[wolfdogg]

Well, I see this draft as one to acquire players for development to be starters. Perhaps as soon as next year in ‘20. That’s with the exception of DL and maybe Edge.

So, if I’m right, then a blue chip C/G would make a lot of sense. Along with 10 other positions. Lol.

Honestly, I think everything is on the table for Snead. Probably just the way he likes it.

Even with a DT at 31, I'd probably prefer him to rotate behind Brockers and then start next year.

 

[dang]

If the go OL or DL with R1.31 - I believe it will be for a player that will start. Otherwise - the trade down and pick up an extra solid rookie to spot play/learn this year.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Articles suggesting the rams keep noteboom on the bench while starting a rookie guard just seems absurd especially if you have to use the 31st pick. I seriously doubt that any guard in this years bunch could be a better option than noteboom this season and dont you want your best 5 linemen on the field.

Let the rookie develop for a year.

I also see great benefit for noteboom playing next to whit in regards to him taking over next year. In-game action advice will be more helpful than watching from the sideline.

Unless they are not sure on Allen.

I still think they might have a plan to slide Blythe over to Center and bring in a Guard;

Whitworth
Noteboom
Blythe
Rookie
Havenstein

But they would have to really believe in that rookie to take him at 31.

 

[wolfdogg]

Unless they are not sure on Allen.

I still think they might have a plan to slide Blythe over to Center and bring in a Guard;

Whitworth
Noteboom
Blythe
Rookie
Havenstein

But they would have to really believe in that rookie to take him at 31.

Snead has said they will roll with noteboom and Allen so I suspect Allen will fill the center spot

 

[Akrasian]

I'm not a huge PFF fan - but they like Allen in a small sample. The Rams' coaches saw Allen with the starting team every Wednesday practice last season, and don't seem deterred.

Truthfully, I doubt that Blythe could beat him out. Besides, Allen will be cheap for three seasons - and the Rams need cheap starters who are decent.

 

[wolfdogg]

Rams will pay out over $23 million this season for our 3 top CB's. Two of which will be UFA's in 10 months. Peters will be looking for a big pay raise & Talib can still can get $8 to $9 million a season @ his old age. If I was looking at this situation with a strong lean towards saving big salary cap $$$ next season ...........an outside corner with the #31 selection makes good sense to me.

Another thing is IF Noteboom is now your starter @ LG who going to be the LT back up? Not an easy find is it. Who going to get all those reps with the first team OL @ LT when they rest Whitworth in practice all season....& he will need more rest this season than he got last year if you want to keep him fresh & able to start for the full season.

So Is going with your starting LG Noteboom as your game day LT reserve a smart sound plan? Whitworth goes down..... now you instantly have two new starters blocking for Goff's blind side:eek: in the middle of a game:shocking:. Good chance both of these starters will not have many offensive snaps @ these two OL posts either.

I understand your concern but I have a hard time not starting my best 5 guys especially with how kromer cross trains. Every time the rookie would give up a hit sack or pressure leading to a pick id being looking at the bench asking, why don't we have noteboom out there?

 

[Soul Surfer]

Snead has said they will roll with noteboom and Allen so I suspect Allen will fill the center spot

And I'm sure that is plan A.

But Allen has to show it in camp.
I would love to see them get an EDGE cornerback or DL at 31 but if a good Guard or Center falls to us, I can see them going that route too because of 2020 and the needs we will have then.