G/C at 31?

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I saw a mock today that had the Rams going center at 31, the reasoning was that even if they like Allen, Blythe got abused in the SB and may need replaced.
Blythe, and everyone else for that matter had one of their worst games of the year, did the Pats somehow crack the code on how to beat this o line which had been one the best in the league all year? Or did they just not rise to the occasion and play their worst at the worst possible time? Boom and Allen are basically rookies and you’re probably not going to put another inexperienced draftee on the line with them, and if you’re not looking to start him why not wait.
They are woefully thin though, do they have time to develop someone to backup and hopefully be ready when Boom moves out, or do they need to spend a higher pick ?
 

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No, there's no need for a high pick. Allen will be a solid center, and you have Noteboom and Blythe as excellent guards. The Super Bowl shouldn't indicate who Blythe is because he was a highly-rated guard throughout the season and playoffs.

And I know they need to draft someone as a swing tackle, but it doesn't have to be a first round pick.
 
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Much more likely a T/G - to take Noteboom's spot in reserve, and to be available to be a starting guard in 2020.

More likely one is taken later in the draft, and a G/C type is taken late. Maybe even a true guard - if need be, Blythe can move over if Allen is hurt.
 

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Why not grab Nate Davis in round 3? The dude has STUD guard written all over him. He may not even make it that far!
 

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I don't listen to the typical media mock drafters. They tend to pick based on what they see as pressing needs. They don't have the same understanding of the Rams that we do.
 

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Why not grab Nate Davis in round 3? The dude has STUD guard written all over him. He may not even make it that far!

I like him. The Rams do need a swing tackle, but Blythe is a free agent in a year. Davis could beat him out in 2019 and be a four-year starter for the Rams. Blythe could be the backup guard and center in 2019. The Rams would still need a backup tackle, preferably one versatile enough to play guard too, since they like to have only 7 OL active.
 

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I like him. The Rams do need a swing tackle, but Blythe is a free agent in a year. Davis could beat him out in 2019 and be a four-year starter for the Rams. Blythe could be the backup guard and center in 2019. The Rams would still need a backup tackle, preferably one versatile enough to play guard too, since they like to have only 7 OL active.

Yea Davis is my gem in this draft. Great size and projects inside after playing RT in college. A lot of interest from us, we’ve circled in with him in a couple different places. Hoping he lasts till our pick!

2020??

Noteboom
Davis
Allen
Blythe
Havenstein
 

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I could see ILB happening at 31 in a surprise pick, not G or C though.

I think a tradedown would be more likely - get a 2nd and a 4th - and then yes, I could see ILB in the 2nd, if not the main positions of DL, CB, S or OT/G. More likely one of those though. With the extra pick, I think they would be more open to getting whomever grades out best. But Wade hasn't shown a love for high ILBs.
 

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No, there's no need for a high pick. Allen will be a solid center, and you have Noteboom and Blythe as excellent guards. The Super Bowl shouldn't indicate who Blythe is because he was a highly-rated guard throughout the season and playoffs.

And I know they need to draft someone as a swing tackle, but it doesn't have to be a first round pick.
Well, if Big Whit goes down he's more than likely sliding over. Leaving a huge hole in LG.
Plus, is this Whits last year?
We need a potential LG this year imo
 

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I saw a mock today that had the Rams going center at 31, the reasoning was that even if they like Allen, Blythe got abused in the SB and may need replaced.

It's a possibility. Hope we go defense but I would not rule it out.

1. We have zero depth right now on the OL in the event of injury.

2. We have two young guys with zero competition and one of those two young guys is projected to take over (by us at least) at LT when Whit retires.

3. Blythe as you mentioned did get abused in the Super Bowl and guess what he's a FA after 2019 season.

4. There are guys in that 15-40 range that will grade very high as OL. If a guy like Risner is on the board there's a damn good chance they take him. Bradbury has a chance to be there. McCoy has a very good chance to be there as a fallback option.

5. Even if they take an OL in round one they still need to address it again mid-rounds. It's in play IMO, maybe not preferred but definitely in play.

EDIT: Oh and 6. The way mocks are looking there will be a ton of defenders going off the board early, not to mention maybe 4 QBs, 2 TEs, 2 WRs etc. Start doing the math, and unless the mocks are wrong it magnifies a strong positional group.
 
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Well, if Big Whit goes down he's more than likely sliding over. Leaving a huge hole in LG.
Plus, is this Whits last year?
We need a potential LG this year imo

Two words: Jamil Demby.

And I'm not saying that you don't draft someone. I'm saying that it shouldn't be with #31. Defense takes priority with this draft with maybe a third for an offensive lineman, at most.
 

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Two words: Jamil Demby.

Demby got cut by two different teams in 2018, including the Rams.. That doesn't mean he can't play - but it does make it more likely he isn't the guy for 2019. If he were special, two teams wouldn't have cut him. He needs work, and MAYBE he becomes a guy that you want as a starter.
 

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Demby got cut by two different teams in 2018, including the Rams.. That doesn't mean he can't play - but it does make it more likely he isn't the guy for 2019. If he were special, two teams wouldn't have cut him. He needs work, and MAYBE he becomes a guy that you want as a starter.

I'm admittedly high on Demby, and I personally believe that he shouldn't have been cut in the first place. He does need work, but I think he's a solid lineman already.
 

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I'm admittedly high on Demby, and I personally believe that he shouldn't have been cut in the first place. He does need work, but I think he's a solid lineman already.

I concur here, just needed to get a year of NFL strength & conditioning under his belt. Echoing @jrry32 post as well, even the likes of McShay & Kiper try to fit in the top 32 on their board for each team. Rams most likely go DL or OL, maybe, but I could see them drafting a player like Nasir Adderley if he's there and a linebacker too.
 

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IMO media types tend to look only at a team's starting lineup and make a judgement as to who needs to be drafted to immediately upgrade what they see as a subpar starter. They don't look at the Rams depth and understand that Noteboom should be ready to start at guard and slide over to tackle when Whit retires. Media types tend not to look into expiring contracts and see where a teams needs a new starter next year, and a pick this year becomes a starter for the following season when that contract expires.

I would be super disappointed if we picked a G/C at #31. Third or fourth round, yes, but I hope they tap into this deep group of defensive linemen and find a future starter to go with Donald.
 

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I think a tradedown would be more likely - get a 2nd and a 4th - and then yes, I could see ILB in the 2nd, if not the main positions of DL, CB, S or OT/G. More likely one of those though. With the extra pick, I think they would be more open to getting whomever grades out best. But Wade hasn't shown a love for high ILBs.
I agree.
Just saying if there are not DL that they like enough to grab at 31 I could see a trade down.
If there is a guy they grade out as a starter and an upgrade at ILB I could see it.
A trade down and drafting 2 OL in with two of the first four pics is likely.
 

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Demby got cut by two different teams in 2018, including the Rams.. That doesn't mean he can't play - but it does make it more likely he isn't the guy for 2019. If he were special, two teams wouldn't have cut him. He needs work, and MAYBE he becomes a guy that you want as a starter.

It's fair to say that he can't be counted on to be anything because of what happened last year, but the argument of "if he were special, he wouldn't have gotten cut" is fatally flawed. As Rams fan, we know that better than anyone (think of our former two-time MVP QB). We'll see what becomes of him.
 

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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/11/nfl-draft-rams-joseph-noteboom-guard-tackle/
Rams open to drafting a guard, keeping Joseph Noteboom at tackle
By: Cameron DaSilva
Noteboom is expected to slot in as the starting left guard right now, but that could change in a few weeks. The Rams have been looking into offensive lineman prospects throughout the pre-draft process and could select a guard 31st overall in the first round.

If that were to happen, Les Snead would be comfortable keeping Noteboom as the No. 3 tackle and eventual replacement for Andrew Whitworth, just as he was drafted to be.

“Joe would be the heir apparent at this particular time,” Snead said, via ESPN. “Now you could go into the draft and all of a sudden you draft a guard at 31, maybe that’s the starter and Joe’s the third tackle, which is still very valuable.”

Noteboom is viewed as the heir to Whitworth, who’s returning for the 2019 season. However, given the fact that he’s 37 and considered retirement this offseason, it’s fair to expect Whitworth to retire after next season ends. Noteboom fits better at tackle than guard as he doesn’t possess the power many like to see on the inside, but he can certainly play either spot.

Another option for the Rams is drafting a left tackle to take over for Whitworth in 2020, keeping Noteboom inside at guard. Either way, they need to find another offensive lineman at some point to shore up the depth along the front.
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/15/nfl-rams-joseph-noteboom-andrew-whitworth-replacement/
Rams still hope Joseph Noteboom can replace Whitworth after playing LG
By: Cameron DaSilva | March 15, 2019


The Los Angeles Rams are undergoing multiple changes on the offensive line with John Sullivan moving on and Rodger Saffold joining the Tennessee Titans. That leaves two holes on the interior that the Rams will have to fill, which is no easy task.

Fortunately, they prepared for departures like these last year in the 2018 NFL draft. With their first two picks, the Rams surprisingly took two offensive linemen: Joseph Noteboom and Brian Allen.

Noteboom is expected to fill in at left guard while Allen will take over at center, beginning what looks like a youth movement up front. Noteboom was viewed as Andrew Whitworth’s future replacement, but with Saffold leaving and the 37-year-old left tackle returning, that change will have to wait.

That doesn’t mean the Rams aren’t still grooming Noteboom to be their left tackle of the future, of course. They are, and while doing so, they’ll also look to the draft and free agency for added depth on the offensive line.

“Here’s what we did last year in drafting Noteboom and Brian Allen — we did have a projection that at some point we’d have to groom them to become starters,” Snead said this week, via the team’s official site. “The thing you hear about Joe is that he’s versatile, he could then fill in for Rodger. And then at the end of the day, you are still grooming him to maybe be a Whitworth replacement or heir apparent in time, but you still need to replenish that, right? So we will look around, let’s say, in the veteran market and scrutinize the draft like we did last year. Because then the goal would be to draft a younger player, let them develop, evolve for a year, and when their time comes [they can become starters].”

Aaron Kromer is one of the best offensive line coaches in the NFL and worked with Noteboom at left guard and tackle last season. He and Allen have gotten “valuable reps” in practice since being drafted, Sean McVay said, and have shown the ability to become starters down the line.

It’s difficult to replace the road-grading blocking style of Saffold or the intelligence of Sullivan in making pre-snap reads, but Noteboom and Allen have to fill those big shoes in 2019. And for Noteboom, his role might be even more crucial in 2020 if/when Whitworth retires.
 
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I completely agree with those posters that point out that many, if not most pundit mocks are too “needs” oriented. It’s ridiculous.

Snead has positioned this team in such a way that he can approach this draft without a single screaming need. That enables him to not only move around in the draft if he sees value, but to also just sit and let the draft come to him if he wants, picking out scheme fit players that have fallen.

Snead’s hand was forced in McVay’s first two years because Snead knew that he needed to bring in talent at many positions and needed to do so quickly. But now? He can afford to be choosy at each point.

What does all this mean? I think that it means that we should be prepared for anything come draft time. I mean, tradeup, tradedown, or any of 11 possible positions with their first pick. EVERYTHING is on the table for Snead.