Former Rams teammate: Kurt Warner belongs in HoF, was better in Arizona

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BY MARK HARRIS | January 26, 2017 @ 12:53 pm
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Add former St. Louis Ram D’Marco Farr to the list of people who support Kurt Warner’s Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy.

Farr, who was a teammate of Warner’s with the Rams, told Doug and Wolf on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM Thursday that Warner deserves to have his bust in Canton.

“Yes, Kurt Warner is a Hall of Famer, he belongs in that group with the best quarterbacks that have ever played this game,” Farr said.

However, Farr has a surprising perspective on Warner considering they were on the Rams together. Many think Warner’s best years were in St. Louis, but Farr thinks Warner was at his best in Arizona.

“Just the Arizona Kurt alone should be in the Hall of Fame, but when you bring his career into totality and you look at what he’s done, and in the biggest games possible and what he did in those games and when he had the ball last, yeah, he’s in the Hall of Fame,” Farr said.

To Farr’s credit, Warner played well in Arizona. He led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2008, and even though the Cardinals fell to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Warner had an excellent game with for 377 passing yards, three touchdowns and one interception. Warner also guided Arizona to NFC West division championships in 2008 and 2009.

Warner threw for 15,843 yards, 100 touchdowns and completed 65.1 percent of his throws in his five years in Arizona. His best year with the Cardinals was in 2008, when he passed for 4,583 yards and 30 touchdowns.

But it’s tough to ignore Warner’s time with Farr and the Rams. Starting in 1999, Warner won two MVP awards and appeared in two Super Bowls with the Rams, winning Super Bowl XXXIV. Moreover, many of Warner’s NFL records happened in St. Louis, such as being the fastest quarterback to throw for 10,000 yards, and he still holds the record for the most passing yards in a Super Bowl (414 in Super Bowl XXXIV).

Farr is currently the sideline reporter for the Los Angeles Rams on ESPNLA 710 after spending years of doing Rams games on St. Louis radio. But before Farr ever went on air in St. Louis, some of his best memories in that city were when Warner was still finding his way in the NFL.

“It’s the one where Kurt Warner wasn’t Kurt Warner, he was just our third-string, scout team quarterback,” Farr said. “That guy that we were just talking about, he was the same guy in ’98 when he wasn’t our starter, we just didn’t know it. We’d play basketball together, we’d chase him down in practice just to mess with him, he’d give off his best on scout team just to make us better.”

As much as Farr and his teammates would mess with Warner at practice, Warner returned the favor and messed with them on the basketball court thanks to his shooting skills.

“And I’m telling you, he’s the guy that would frustrate you so much that you’d want to punch him in the face, and he’d never say a word, because he’s nailing these threes in your face and he’s not staring at you but he’d just give you a glance,” Farr said.
 

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You can argue that he was better in Arizona,but there was nothing
more special in the game of football than his first year starting
for the Rams.Just truly special.I am absolutely Honored to have
witness it.You Damn right he belongs in the Hall Of Fame!
Thank You Kurt.You helped give us something I thought I may
never Live to See.Special!
 

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He did stuff I have nevee seen done so consistently. How much was the talent around him and Martz and how much was him I can not be certain but I have never seen a QB give a receiver the chance to run with the ball theough timing and ball placement like KW...
.Just Special......
 

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Fuck that... they should put him in the HOF with an asterisk saying "He's in as a Ram only". :sneaky:
 

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But it’s tough to ignore Warner’s time with the Rams.

How nice of him to mention it.

Warner threw fewer INTs and took fewer sacks with the Cardinals, but by any other statistical measure, his peak years were with the Rams. More TDs, more passing yards, higher completion percentage, more regular season wins. More Pro Bowls, more MVPs, more Super Bowl appearances, more championships.

D'Marco, you're a nut.
 

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After DeMarco's comments around the relocation time it's not surprising to see him say something like this. What he did with Arizona is absolutely impressive but it pales in comparison to what he did for the Rams from '99-'01.
 

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Him being in the HOF shouldn't even been a question anymore.

Just his story alone is HOF worthy.
 

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Absolutely false and i don't care what numbers you crunch. I watched all the games for both teams. He was great in both cities but made more mistakes in Arizona.

Call it age, call it whatever you want but he was sharper as a Ram QB.
 

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I don't care if he wants to enter the HoF as a NY Giant. Kurt Warner is my favorite QB of all time, and it isn't even close. He brought my team their only Superbowl win, and pretty much our only sustained success in the last thirty or so years. I always thought that even with Bulger coming on like he did, Warner should've gotten a shot at redemption instead of being cast aside like he was.

Warner as a Cardinal was just as good as Warner as a Ram... he just had to wear another uniform, and I couldn't root for him two weekends out of the season.
 

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Warner spent 5 years in Arizona, 1 year with the Giants and 6 years with the Rams. BUT, of the 6 years in St. Louis, you can throw out '98 because he didn't play except for 11 pass attempts. And if we're really being honest, '02 and '03 were "non seasons" for Warner. He was definately injured AND playing injured in 2002 and he played 1 game in 2003. Having said that, I'd match up his unworldly 3 years with TGSOT with any or all of his time in Arizona.

5 years in AZ : 15,843 passing yards; 100 TD; 59 picks; 26-30 as a starter (regular season; 4-2 in PS); 1 Pro Bowl; 1 Walter Payton Man of the Year

1999-2001; 12,612 passing yards; 98 TD; 53 picks; 35-8 as a starter (regular season; 5-2 in PS); 3 Pro Bowls; 2 First Team All Pro; 2 MVP awards; 1 SB MVP Award; 1 NFL Passing Yards Leader (2001); 2 NFL Passing TDs Leader (99,01); 1 Lombardi Trophy

So what's the verdict? Better in Arizona or St. Louis? Of course if you add in the 02 and 03 numbers in matching up against his time in Arizona, it adds to the passing yards, TDs and Ints and makes his record worse (35-15 as a starter ain't bad though). I'll give the nod to his time is St. Louis. If you match his 3 best years in Arizona vs his 3 best in St. Louis it's not even close.

Arizona top 3: 11,753 passing (-859 vs top 3 in STL); 83 TD; 45 picks, 24-18 record (4-2 PS)

I like listening to D'Marco Farr talk but I suspect so does D'Marco from time to time.
 

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The Rams cut a two time MVP who was clearly not done yet. That still pains me. The most exciting QB I've ever watched play and my favorite Ram. Sucks he identifies himself as a cardinal, and I really can't blame him.
 

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D'Marco could very well be arguing the Warner Cards' performances were better because he had less overall talent to work with.
 

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First off guys you need to know that in the NFL HOF players go in as players only, they do not go in with ANY team affiliation whatsoever.

2nd..........I remember hearing a couple of defenders back in 1999 say that they were not at all surprised at Warner's success because when he ran the scout team he would routinely carve up the defense. I can't remember who said this or the exact quote but one said that they knew he was going to be good because he felt the Rams defense was good and if he could do that with the scout team then he was going to give other defenses a hard time with the first stringers.

So Farr is now the third guy who has mentioned him kicking ass with the scout team.

Letting him go was a huge mistake.

@jap you could make that case. For sure he took a lot of hits behind a shaky OL. But that guy was tough as iron in the pocket. I've never seen anyone stand in and deliver like he did.
 

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http://arizonasports.com/story/1004360/former-teammate-dmarco-farr-kurt-warner-is-a-hall-of-famer/


BY MARK HARRIS | January 26, 2017 @ 12:53 pm
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Add former St. Louis Ram D’Marco Farr to the list of people who support Kurt Warner’s Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy.

Farr, who was a teammate of Warner’s with the Rams, told Doug and Wolf on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM Thursday that Warner deserves to have his bust in Canton.

“Yes, Kurt Warner is a Hall of Famer, he belongs in that group with the best quarterbacks that have ever played this game,” Farr said.

However, Farr has a surprising perspective on Warner considering they were on the Rams together. Many think Warner’s best years were in St. Louis, but Farr thinks Warner was at his best in Arizona.

“Just the Arizona Kurt alone should be in the Hall of Fame, but when you bring his career into totality and you look at what he’s done, and in the biggest games possible and what he did in those games and when he had the ball last, yeah, he’s in the Hall of Fame,” Farr said.

To Farr’s credit, Warner played well in Arizona. He led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2008, and even though the Cardinals fell to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Warner had an excellent game with for 377 passing yards, three touchdowns and one interception. Warner also guided Arizona to NFC West division championships in 2008 and 2009.

Warner threw for 15,843 yards, 100 touchdowns and completed 65.1 percent of his throws in his five years in Arizona. His best year with the Cardinals was in 2008, when he passed for 4,583 yards and 30 touchdowns.

But it’s tough to ignore Warner’s time with Farr and the Rams. Starting in 1999, Warner won two MVP awards and appeared in two Super Bowls with the Rams, winning Super Bowl XXXIV. Moreover, many of Warner’s NFL records happened in St. Louis, such as being the fastest quarterback to throw for 10,000 yards, and he still holds the record for the most passing yards in a Super Bowl (414 in Super Bowl XXXIV).

Farr is currently the sideline reporter for the Los Angeles Rams on ESPNLA 710 after spending years of doing Rams games on St. Louis radio. But before Farr ever went on air in St. Louis, some of his best memories in that city were when Warner was still finding his way in the NFL.

“It’s the one where Kurt Warner wasn’t Kurt Warner, he was just our third-string, scout team quarterback,” Farr said. “That guy that we were just talking about, he was the same guy in ’98 when he wasn’t our starter, we just didn’t know it. We’d play basketball together, we’d chase him down in practice just to mess with him, he’d give off his best on scout team just to make us better.”

As much as Farr and his teammates would mess with Warner at practice, Warner returned the favor and messed with them on the basketball court thanks to his shooting skills.

“And I’m telling you, he’s the guy that would frustrate you so much that you’d want to punch him in the face, and he’d never say a word, because he’s nailing these threes in your face and he’s not staring at you but he’d just give you a glance,” Farr said.
Warner was absolutely better in Arizona, he had to be, he didn't have anywhere near as good a team their as he did with the Rams!!(y):D
 

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I mean he doesn't have a cardinals superbowl ring does he?
 

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D'Marco could very well be arguing the Warner Cards' performances were better because he had less overall talent to work with.
While he had more talent on the Rams, Fitz and Bolden were great players too.
 

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D'Marco could very well be arguing the Warner Cards' performances were better because he had less overall talent to work with.
Overall talent yes....no question about it when you factor in the OLine,WR depth and Faulk, but as Fro mentioned, Fitz/Boldin were there. Two likely future HOF's that were outstanding and IMO every bit as talented as Bruce/Holt as a combo.

The Rams' decisions concerning Warner were mishandled and it was obviously a mistake in retrospect but it's not like the Rams replaced him with a bad QB. Marc the Bulger was pretty good too before the groceries started to run out around him.
 

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The glove. It was the glove. If he had put on the glove with the Rams we wouldn't be having this conversation!!