For those who said Gurley lacks burst

[fearsomefour]

:shocked:

That bullcrap is everywhere there are Ram fans(?)

All kinds of questioning of Gurley's skills, which I guess I'd alright but I saw Trent Richardson comparisons.

I questioned how he was performing....because it had been crap.
Questioning his burst....speed or athletic ability? Not at all.
Woukd be silly to do.

 

[fearsomefour]

Watching in the passing game this year, I'm thinking we're not going to have any regrets regarding that pick. McVay understands something Fisher and Boras never did: Gurley is a talented receiver and very dangerous in space. It's clear that he's trying to feature him in the passing attack. I'd like to see Goff use him even more. Meanwhile, David Johnson isn't helping his team on IR.



Yea, I was about to go on a rant in that thread after the game last week about how this fanbase just always has to beat up on some player, even after a blowout win. But for once, I decided just to let it be. Glad Gurley changed some opinions this week.

It's not about changing opinions....it's about performing.
I don't understand why questioning a player, regardless of who, is deemed as a negative.
Physical ability? Yes. Speed? Yes. Receiving skills? Yes. Power? Ehh. Performance? Sub par going back over a season.
All true statements.
It's not about wanting to see a player fail....I don't want to see any player fail.
We all know the ability is there as he has played at a high level before.
When I said I thought it was near time other guys got reps at RB that was treated as a treasonous statement by some. Followed by the "I told you so"...."look how wrong you were" posts....which is just silly. Particularly after one week of good performance. Fixing the running game is not as simple as plug in one piece for another at RB. I hope with everything the second half of the Skins game is a sign of things to come. A consistent running game would go a long way to propelling this team (and young QB) to the next level. I believe Gurley is the guy who can help do that. At some point there needs to be a turn around. Hopefully, week 2 second half was the beginning of that with the McVay running game.

 

[JonRam99]

TG or DJ or Ajayi? TG all day every day. He's just beginning to be functional in a functional offense. By the end of the season he will crush all doubts. He had a great day running & catching passes against an above-average D.

I think the other RB's in the league benefit from better OL coaching geared towards the RB -- DJ in particular. Say, what was Arian's specialty? oh yeah, wasn't he an OL coach?? HC's tend to coach up to their specialty. I think TG's vision is fine, maybe not elite but it's above-average (judging by 2015). His screens & dump offs have been terrific, moar pleaz!

He needs better blocking in the run game, particularly the right side. From the results so far, I think the OL's focus during the offseason has been pass-blocking in order to keep Goff upright & give him a chance, but I trust that McVay & Kromer will keep upgrading & coaching up the OL to bolster the run game over the season & off-season. Plus they need to stop racking up the yellow flags!!! smh, so many good TG runs erased. Plus, I do believe they need a change-of-pace back, where's that Justin kid??

 

[JRobinson]

It's not about changing opinions....it's about performing.
I don't understand why questioning a player, regardless of who, is deemed as a negative.

Couple things here. I'm in no way speaking in absolutes; just opinion. And this is not an attack on you or anyone for the record.

1. "It's not about changing opionions, it's about performing." --

But that's just the thing, performance develops AND changes opinions of a player. One may say 'AP has lost a step'. That changed the opinion of said person due to his performance dip. Why? 'Cause of his age'. Well, that's probably right, but the opinion of AP was different a few years ago.

2. "I don't understand why questioning a player, regardless of who, is deemed as a negative." --

Questioning a player is part of observation. Take for example our coaching staff: They observed collegiate players before the draft thoroughly. They made the picks, and have put them in their schemes. They watch and make judgments(opinions) on these guys almost everyday. Then they watch a guy like Gurley, sees what he brings to the table, and how he can help the team win. He has 'burst', 'vision', 'strength', etc.. all these attributes are what he currently posses as a player in his prime. There is no sugar coating what abilities he possesses; that's why he's here and why he starts. They don't go back and forth discussing his attributes because of a bad read, dropped pass, busted assignment, or even a bad season. They know what he does and does well, and until he starts showing decline in particular areas of his game consistently, there will be no changing of who he is as an NFL player on any team.

But for some dadgum reason, fans all over the globe continue to question the abilities of players; over and over, week to week. It ends up becoming monotonous and a beating of the dead horse. In this regard, it's a negative because all you're doing is stating an opinion that you've already stated before and that others have stated. 'Let's start splitting the reps', or 'let's find his replacement' are constant phrases used when a player doesn't perform to a fans liking. The fact of the matter is this: 10 other players have to do their jobs somewhat successfully in order for another particular player to succeed (whoever, or whatever position they play). If they don't (coaching staffs included), does that mean that a guy like Gurley is in decline or has lost ability?

Come on, man. This dude is a stud and there is no denying that. I've said it before and I'll say it again,"Players on the other team are paid professionals too." It's about matchups.

 

[Rmfnlt]

IMO, Gurley didn't trust the plays or the OL.

The fact of the matter is this: 10 other players have to do their jobs somewhat successfully in order for another particular player to succeed (whoever, or whatever position they play).

I think this may the the main culprit for Gurley's decline last year.

I don't think he did trust his line or the plays... and rightfully so (he said as much about the offense last year).
The fumble Sunday... he got bottled up behind one of his own linemen (no excuse for the fumble, just observing he had nowhere to run).

Yes, he misses some opportunities to find gaps... they all do.

But, for the most part, the line was terrible last year... it's gonna take some time for him to trust them now... see the open lanes and burst through them.

I definitely saw a difference in the second half Sunday... a lot of the hesitancy disappeared... maybe he just started to trust the line?

We'll see Thursday. SF defense is pretty good. IF he can break out, the offense is gonna be so much better!

 

[BonifayRam]

I don't think anyone has ever questioned his burst.

I have & still do. I don't dislike Gurley & I am fine with him as our main RB. I love to see him used in the passing game is wonderful but the burst I saw @ UG & early in 2015 has not returned as of yet....& yes it appears that I am the only member saying ...that Gurley's burst of the past has yet to re appear.....

 

[DaveFan'51]

I fully believe he has burst. Until the middle of the 2nd quarter yesterday I legitimately had to question whether he USES it. He seems to hit holes slowly these days. And the play where he was pressed into his OLineman's back for like 3 seconds and he fumbled? That was just weird running.

But boy did he start kicking A after that.

Last year Gurley would hit the LOS Too fast, wouldn't wait for the O-line to develop holes. This year he appears to be trying to wait for holes to develop and hit them, am I wrong!?

 

[jap]

Just hope he doesn't need anger to be his motivation. He looked great after he got angry

Gurley always seems to run angry when he is at his best.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

Josh Norman thought this of Todd


View: https://twitter.com/J_No24/status/909693390882820096

 

[MrRiceGuyRJ]

The fumble, not okay. How TG is running... I can't ask any more of him. The pass game is getting more respect which is improving our run blocking which in turn is allowing TG to get holes again. I expect as this offense gels more and more his numbers are gonna take a massive spike. I don't think he's lacking the burst, more than lacking the opportunities to break one away

 

[Snaz]

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Gurley always seems to run at his best when he is angry .

Fixed it for you, Makes more sense this way
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[Adi]

He has the burst and acceleration, my worry is the top end speed he fkenst seem to break away from linebackers anymore . Either way , what they have don't with him in the passing game is genius

 

[NateDawg122]

He has the burst and acceleration, my worry is the top end speed he fkenst seem to break away from linebackers anymore . Either way , what they have don't with him in the passing game is genius

Did you not watch the video that started this thread? A linebacker with 4.44 speed had the angle on Gurley and Todd completely motored away from him. I don't know what other evidence you want. I guess when Gurley doesn't rip off 20 yard runs every game it means he doesn't have top end speed.

 

[fearsomefour]

Couple things here. I'm in no way speaking in absolutes; just opinion. And this is not an attack on you or anyone for the record.

1. "It's not about changing opionions, it's about performing." --

But that's just the thing, performance develops AND changes opinions of a player. One may say 'AP has lost a step'. That changed the opinion of said person due to his performance dip. Why? 'Cause of his age'. Well, that's probably right, but the opinion of AP was different a few years ago.

2. "I don't understand why questioning a player, regardless of who, is deemed as a negative." --

Questioning a player is part of observation. Take for example our coaching staff: They observed collegiate players before the draft thoroughly. They made the picks, and have put them in their schemes. They watch and make judgments(opinions) on these guys almost everyday. Then they watch a guy like Gurley, sees what he brings to the table, and how he can help the team win. He has 'burst', 'vision', 'strength', etc.. all these attributes are what he currently posses as a player in his prime. There is no sugar coating what abilities he possesses; that's why he's here and why he starts. They don't go back and forth discussing his attributes because of a bad read, dropped pass, busted assignment, or even a bad season. They know what he does and does well, and until he starts showing decline in particular areas of his game consistently, there will be no changing of who he is as an NFL player on any team.

But for some dadgum reason, fans all over the globe continue to question the abilities of players; over and over, week to week. It ends up becoming monotonous and a beating of the dead horse. In this regard, it's a negative because all you're doing is stating an opinion that you've already stated before and that others have stated. 'Let's start splitting the reps', or 'let's find his replacement' are constant phrases used when a player doesn't perform to a fans liking. The fact of the matter is this: 10 other players have to do their jobs somewhat successfully in order for another particular player to succeed (whoever, or whatever position they play). If they don't (coaching staffs included), does that mean that a guy like Gurley is in decline or has lost ability?

Come on, man. This dude is a stud and there is no denying that. I've said it before and I'll say it again,"Players on the other team are paid professionals too." It's about matchups.

Ehhh
I agree and not.
Ability and skill. Two sides if a quarter.
All the rest, scheme, coaching, others performing etc. These discussions can be applied to any player.

 

[Soul Surfer]

For those who think that Gurley lacks burst....

YOU try to tackle him.

 

[fearsomefour]

I have & still do. I don't dislike Gurley & I am fine with him as our main RB. I love to see him used in the passing game is wonderful but the burst I saw @ UG & early in 2015 has not returned as of yet....& yes it appears that I am the only member saying ...that Gurley's burst of the past has yet to re appear.....

The thing that bothers me about him is he seems to go down on first contact a lot.
Doesn't mean he doesn't run hard, he does, doesn't mean he isent physical, he is. Just something I noticed. But, that may be me not having an understanding of his core skill set.

 

[Stump23]

It's all on the Offensive Line. TG keeps running into his lineman, especially on the right side or the lane was not there and he gets immediately pummeled. The Interior gap between Sullivan and Jamon Brown was non-existent and so was the non-existent lane between JB and Havenstein. Rams need to upgrade their OL still.

Malcolm Brown seems to be able to adjust when the holes are blocked, Cunningham was able to adjust also last year with the awful O-Line. I think we all want Gurley to flourish. Just needs to look up and move once in a while and we will continue to see the results we saw on Sunday.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

Just trying to think back on some of those 'big burst' plays you guys are referring too. Won't most of the plays on turf? @Arizona, @St. Louis, there were a couple big plays on the grass at Lambeau I guess.

So far the coliseum has had a very subpar field.

 

[JRobinson]

Ehhh
I agree and not.
Ability and skill. Two sides if a quarter.
All the rest, scheme, coaching, others performing etc. These discussions can be applied to any player.

Ability is skill lol; they are the same. Athleticism and ability are not.
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"All the rest, scheme, coaching, others performing etc. These discussions can be applied to any player"

Did I not say that?

"The fact of the matter is this: 10 other players have to do their jobs somewhat successfully in order for another particular player to succeed(whoever, or whatever position they play)"

 

[fearsomefour]

Ability is skill lol; they are the same. Athleticism and ability are not.
--

"All the rest, scheme, coaching, others performing etc. These discussions can be applied to any player"

Did I not say that?

"The fact of the matter is this: 10 other players have to do their jobs somewhat successfully in order for another particular player to succeed(whoever, or whatever position they play)"

Ability to throw a 98 MPH fastball, skilled at throwing strikes. If you want to split hairs and call it athleticism so be it. We are talking about the same thing.
A LG doesn't need a RB to do his job, hit his block and sustain. Most RBs need that LG, like you said. Meaning, the RB spot is relatively over valued unless you have a true difference maker. Is that Gurley? Hope so.
So far? No.