Finally Fix your Health

[Stranger]

What's your background @Stranger? Are you a specialist in nutrition? Not putting you down, just wondering if it's a hobby of yours, or a field you study.

educational background in physical sciences and engineering. experience with major corp malfeasance and DC politics. nutrition is an ongoing research project as I try to keep 3 kids healthy in a food web run by food scientists and multi-nation'l profiteers.

 

[Stranger]

This guy is a boring presenter, but it's well worth watching

 

[Stranger]

here's a shorter more concise presentation ...

 

[Stranger]

Quick preliminary way to self-diagnose...


http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/how-to-perform-the-iodine-patch-test/

 

[Dieter the Brock]

educational background in physical sciences and engineering. experience with major corp malfeasance and DC politics. nutrition is an ongoing research project as I try to keep 3 kids healthy in a food web run by food scientists and multi-nation'l profiteers.

Hey Stranger, then you know how those big corps will slander a brand like Standard Process that actually makes great foods which help build the immune system. Any alternative to Western Medicine that chooses to treat the cause of the problem instead of the symptom is slandered as quacks. It's amazing to me. For the last 5 years I have been raising my own animals at the ranch, beef, lamb, pork, chickens, (it's not farm to table, it's backyard to table) and shop for only organic produce, and cut out all the sugars, and I haven't been more healthy my whole life. And I drink only rainwater from our collection system - it runs through the whole house. When we are in a serious drought I have to go well water, but still. My family looks great and my kids are about as happy and healthy as I could possibly pray for. Thank God.

Processed sugar is the worst chemical of all time. It's not a food. It is a toxic chemical. Drinking soda is the worst thing in the world for someone to do.
This iodine issue isn't something I have heard of so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Thanks again

 

[Stranger]

Hey Stranger, then you know how those big corps will slander a brand like Standard Process that actually makes great foods which help build the immune system. Any alternative to Western Medicine that chooses to treat the cause of the problem instead of the symptom is slandered as quacks. It's amazing to me. For the last 5 years I have been raising my own animals at the ranch, beef, lamb, pork, chickens, (it's not farm to table, it's backyard to table) and shop for only organic produce, and cut out all the sugars, and I haven't been more healthy my whole life. And I drink only rainwater from our collection system - it runs through the whole house. When we are in a serious drought I have to go well water, but still. My family looks great and my kids are about as happy and healthy as I could possibly pray for. Thank God.

Processed sugar is the worst chemical of all time. It's not a food. It is a toxic chemical. Drinking soda is the worst thing in the world for someone to do.
This iodine issue isn't something I have heard of so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Thanks again

Great stuff! A few questions and comments...

1. Fantastic to hear that you're drinking rain or well water. We filter all of our water with Reverse Osmosis and use extra flouride and chlorine filters as well. But, next home we move in to will have well water.

2. One problem with sugar is that it blocks the uptake of thyroxine - the hormone that your thyroid produces to communicate with the rest of the glands in your body. So, not only does flouride, chloride and bromide work together to reduce the performance of your thyroid, but sugar, gluten and soy all work to block the uptake of thyroxine. Hence, we're getting hit from both sides - thyoid production of thyroxin as well as throxin absorption.

3. What are you feeding your animals? Almost all feeds have soy & corn in them, and both impact the animal and then impact the human that eats the meat. So, even if one cuts out soy, one still has to be careful to find meat, eggs & dairy where the animal was soy free as well, and this is incredibly difficult in today's food web.

4. Iodine is important for those people who have low functioning thyroids because of the amount of exposure to flouride, chloride and bromide in our environment. All of these chemicals replace iodine in the thyroid, which then cause the thyroid to perform poorly. The only way to get the thyroid back to normal is to overload the body with iodine so that the flouride, chloride and bromide are displaced, and replaced with iodine. So, if you weren't exposed to these toxins, then you probably won't need to dose with iodine.

5. Do the iodine and/or pee test to see how your thyroid performs. I'll post the contact details for a few labs that perform the pee test for people who are interested.

6. For woman, the problem is worse, because the flouride, chloride and bromide not only collect in the thyroid, but in the ovaries as well. Is it any wonder why ovarian cancer rates are high and increasing? So, taking iodine for woman not only displaces the toxins in the thyroid but also in the ovaries.

7. You gotta go slow when taking iodine. The purging of flouride, chloride and bromide from your body is a painful process with all sorts of side effects, like headaches and skin rashes. So, it's not the iodine intake that's the issue, it's the rate at which the toxins leave your thyroid/ovaries and re-enter other part of the body. So, it could take a couple years to work up to the recommended levels of iodine that will purge out all of the toxins, leaving your thyroid/ovaries replenished with iodine and once again functioning normally.

 

[Stranger]

another video overview (this one is shorter) ... skip thru the stupid intro to where the doc begins talking...

 

[Stranger]

And this guy really gets to the bottom of it, but he does get quite detailed...

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Great stuff! A few questions and comments...

1. Fantastic to hear that you're drinking rain or well water. We filter all of our water with Reverse Osmosis and use extra flouride and chlorine filters as well. But, next home we move in to will have well water.

2. One problem with sugar is that it blocks the uptake of thyroxine - the hormone that your thyroid produces to communicate with the rest of the glands in your body. So, not only does flouride, chloride and bromide work together to reduce the performance of your thyroid, but sugar, gluten and soy all work to block the uptake of thyroxine. Hence, we're getting hit from both sides - thyoid production of thyroxin as well as throxin absorption.

3. What are you feeding your animals? Almost all feeds have soy & corn in them, and both impact the animal and then impact the human that eats the meat. So, even if one cuts out soy, one still has to be careful to find meat, eggs & dairy where the animal was soy free as well, and this is incredibly difficult in today's food web.

4. Iodine is important for those people who have low functioning thyroids because of the amount of exposure to flouride, chloride and bromide in our environment. All of these chemicals replace iodine in the thyroid, which then cause the thyroid to perform poorly. The only way to get the thyroid back to normal is to overload the body with iodine so that the flouride, chloride and bromide are displaced, and replaced with iodine. So, if you weren't exposed to these toxins, then you probably won't need to dose with iodine.

5. Do the iodine and/or pee test to see how your thyroid performs. I'll post the contact details for a few labs that perform the pee test for people who are interested.

6. For woman, the problem is worse, because the flouride, chloride and bromide not only collect in the thyroid, but in the ovaries as well. Is it any wonder why ovarian cancer rates are high and increasing? So, taking iodine for woman not only displaces the toxins in the thyroid but also in the ovaries.

7. You gotta go slow when taking iodine. The purging of flouride, chloride and bromide from your body is a painful process with all sorts of side effects, like headaches and skin rashes. So, it's not the iodine intake that's the issue, it's the rate at which the toxins leave your thyroid/ovaries and re-enter other part of the body. So, it could take a couple years to work up to the recommended levels of iodine that will purge out all of the toxins, leaving your thyroid/ovaries replenished with iodine and once again functioning normally.

1. Reverse osmosis for sure - and will look into the flouride and chlorine filters too. Water in the Hill Country is extremely hard and you get that sulfur smell big time - huge problem for us here. The cows drink out of a stock tank or from the a trough that is supplied by a well - no filtration for them

3. feed is another big issue. For the smaller animals we go with the organic feeds but they are harder to get round here. The cows need cattle cubes and that is all pretty much corn and soy like you say so i rarely cube them up and instead go for molasses tubs to get them the vitamins and minerals they need outside of just grazing. I also hay them down in the winter quite a bit and during the Summer either in drought or just to give them a change of pace. Something different.

I have 2 really nice pastures one with improved grass (coastal bermuda) and the second isn't as good cause it's essentially blue stem and some Johnson grass that doesn't have the protein they need. But the good thing is I raise native Longhorns - Butler Longhorns to be exact. They are the most eco-friendly cow in the world. Lots of great history with the Butler Longhorn breed and Longhorns in generals. The Butler breed has only trace amounts of English cattle or Brahma cattle in their blood and that was due to the fact the Longhorn was almost extinct in the early 20th Century and they needed a bit to help bring it back. They are extremely well adapted to this environment and eat almost anything. So I get to graze them most of the year. Butler Longhorns are smaller than regular cows, and I often sell them off as "mini" Longhorns, when in fact they are the real size of native cows. Today everyone cross breeds them with English cows to make them bigger and to produce bigger horn. Not my cup of tea. I like the history involved and purity of the animal. Love just watching them for hours.

Longhorn is really lean and doesn't have a lot of fat and back in the day when tallow was so important, these cows were replaced by English cows which we see in abundance today. People are scared of the horns for the most part, but the cows I raise have been bred to be really gentle, which mine are. Normally if a cow looks at you sideways you take it to beef or the scales. It's hard to get it 100% especially when you have to fertilize pastures, which i do every 2 years. I pick the weeds by hand and when you have over 50 acres that can become a bit of a labor of love.

Here is a picture of some of my critters I just took to give you a sense of what they look like and how my pastures look. This side has a bit more caliche so the grass isn't so robust, but here in the Hill Country this is primarily as good as it gets.

Always pray for rain!

7. that is the key, taking things slowly cause the toxins always come out in your skin and your appendages. Looking forward to giving it a try.

 

[Stranger]

1. Reverse osmosis for sure - and will look into the flouride and chlorine filters too. Water in the Hill Country is extremely hard and you get that sulfur smell big time - huge problem for us here. The cows drink out of a stock tank or from the a trough that is supplied by a well - no filtration for them

3. feed is another big issue. For the smaller animals we go with the organic feeds but they are harder to get round here. The cows need cattle cubes and that is all pretty much corn and soy like you say so i rarely cube them up and instead go for molasses tubs to get them the vitamins and minerals they need outside of just grazing. I also hay them down in the winter quite a bit and during the Summer either in drought or just to give them a change of pace. Something different.

I have 2 really nice pastures one with improved grass (coastal bermuda) and the second isn't as good cause it's essentially blue stem and some Johnson grass that doesn't have the protein they need. But the good thing is I raise native Longhorns - Butler Longhorns to be exact. They are the most eco-friendly cow in the world. Lots of great history with the Butler Longhorn breed and Longhorns in generals. The Butler breed has only trace amounts of English cattle or Brahma cattle in their blood and that was due to the fact the Longhorn was almost extinct in the early 20th Century and they needed a bit to help bring it back. They are extremely well adapted to this environment and eat almost anything. So I get to graze them most of the year. Butler Longhorns are smaller than regular cows, and I often sell them off as "mini" Longhorns, when in fact they are the real size of native cows. Today everyone cross breeds them with English cows to make them bigger and to produce bigger horn. Not my cup of tea. I like the history involved and purity of the animal. Love just watching them for hours.

Longhorn is really lean and doesn't have a lot of fat and back in the day when tallow was so important, these cows were replaced by English cows which we see in abundance today. People are scared of the horns for the most part, but the cows I raise have been bred to be really gentle, which mine are. Normally if a cow looks at you sideways you take it to beef or the scales. It's hard to get it 100% especially when you have to fertilize pastures, which i do every 2 years. I pick the weeds by hand and when you have over 50 acres that can become a bit of a labor of love.

Here is a picture of some of my critters I just took to give you a sense of what they look like and how my pastures look. This side has a bit more caliche so the grass isn't so robust, but here in the Hill Country this is primarily as good as it gets.

Always pray for rain!

7. that is the key, taking things slowly cause the toxins always come out in your skin and your appendages. Looking forward to giving it a try.

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I'm very jealous of your property. My goal is to buy something similar after the kids move away to school, and to raise my own animals and become self-sufficent.

With regard to the organic feed, my experience has been that they make it organic by adding organic soy. So, if you haven't checked, I'd ask what percentage of soy is in the feed.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I'm very jealous of your property. My goal is to buy something similar after the kids move away to school, and to raise my own animals and become self-sufficent.

With regard to the organic feed, my experience has been that they make it organic by adding organic soy. So, if you haven't checked, I'd ask what percentage of soy is in the feed.

Thanks Stranger, I will check that out when looking at the ingredients. Getting land is the best thing ever - you will love it. There is a freedom that you can never have any other way without it. I'm AG exempt and 100% unrestricted. God Bless Texas!

 

[Stranger]

Thanks Stranger, I will check that out when looking at the ingredients. Getting land is the best thing ever - you will love it. There is a freedom that you can never have any other way without it. I'm AG exempt and 100% unrestricted. God Bless Texas!

We moved out into the country and are now surrounded by traditional farms and lots of wine vineyards. We've got the huge chest freezer in the garage and currently buy all of our locally butchered beef, pork, chicken, as well as eggs & dairy from local farms that are all soy free. But so many farmers still don't really understand nutrition, and so while they're trying to be responsible they're still buying feeds that are loaded with soy and corn. I can't wait until we have the land around us to do this ourself. Nothing better than grass & bug fed hen eggs, or grass fed beef, and pigs that feed on naturally foraged ingredients. Also, I've found nothing better than unpasteurized dairy. We eat tons of butter and full fat milk and cream now, and we're all super healthy and skinny. The low fat scam perpetrated on the American diet is perhaps one of the great mass criminal acts I've ever witnessed.

 

[Stranger]

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/pb_paper/

Chapter Ten: Bromism
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/pb_paper/mr1018.2.chap10.html

Symptoms of Bromism
Bromide intoxication, from prolonged consumption of excessive doses of bromide, may cause protean symptoms, particularly psychiatric, cognitive, neurological, and dermatologic. Symptoms may be incorrectly perceived as "psychosomatic" (Pelckmans, Verdickt, et al., 1983), or may lead falsely to other diagnoses.
Psychiatric symptoms may include, in the earlier stages, disinhibition, self-neglect, fatigue, sluggishness, impairment of memory and concentration, irritability or emotional instability, and depression. Symptoms of more advanced disease may include confusion but occasionally schizophrenic-like psychotic behavior or hallucinations in clear consciousness. Behavior may become violent, especially at night. There may be severe auditory or visual hallucinations, or both. There may be clouding of consciousness, including stupor and coma (Horowitz, 1997; Fried and Malek-Ahmadi, 1975; Wacks, Oster, et al., 1990; Carney, 1973).

Neurological abnormalities of "all kinds" occur, including headache, tremor, slurred speech, spontaneous movements, incoordination, ataxia (abnormal gait), tendon reflex changes (increased or decreased reflexes), and extensor plantar responses (abnormal reflexes that signify "upper motor neuron" disease, disease in the brain or spinal cord that affects nerve signaling to the muscles) (Horowitz, 1997; Fried and Malek-Ahmadi, 1975; Wacks, Oster, et al., 1990; Carney, 1973). Vision changes have included decreased visual acuity often in conjunction with enlarged and poorly reacting pupils; disturbances of color perception, photophobia (abnormal sensitivity to light), micropsia and macropsia (perception of things as smaller or larger than they are), blurring of vision, and the quite characteristic mydriasis (enlarged pupils) (Levin, 1960; Kunze, 1976).

EEG: Generalized slowing of the EEG has been reported (Carney, 1973).

Dermatologic: Some patients will develop "bromoderma," an acne-like "papular" (raised) eruption of the face and hands (Horowitz, 1997; Wacks, Oster, et al., 1990); a "macular" (nonraised) rash may also be seen (Carney, 1973). In one case series, four of six bromism patients had abnormal pigmentation, usually of the sun-exposed areas (Carney, 1973).

Acute bromism is seldom seen because the bromide ion is irritating to the GI tract and produces vomiting before sufficient blood levels can be reached to cause bromism from short-term use. However, chronic bromism may develop--bromide is excreted slowly through the kidney, giving it the opportunity to build up in the body through ongoing ingestion (Morgan and Weaver, 1969).

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Intersting stuff. I consider myself to be a pretty healthy eater compared to the average American, but some of you are at an entirely different level. I do have a well and love the water. After having town water my whole life, I couldn't believe the difference in taste. I will have to do an iodine test. I have read bout it in the past but never tried it.

The trouble with eating healthy is it costs more money. Groceries are so expensive. I go to a Mennonite store but most of their products commercial too. I have found. They do sell raw honey though! We have replaced table sugar with raw honey in our house and I believe more than coincidentally we have less common illness.

Two things that I need to research more are hypoglycemia and vitiligo. My wife gets low bood sugar at times and has to get something to eat. She will actually shake until she gets food. She has not been diagnosed with a problem but it does not seem normal. I have Vitiligo on my hands. The immune system kills the pigments cells. There is very little known about it. Some people on the net claim to have natural cures but I am Leary. I would love to reverse the process.

 

[Prime Time]

Drinking soda is the worst thing in the world for someone to do.

Aspartame is really bad news. Stopped drinking all sodas in 2003. Water and fruit juice is all I drink. Fruit juices are filled with sugar unfortunately so I dilute everything with water.

 

[Stranger]

Aspartame is really bad news. Stopped drinking all sodas in 2003. Water and fruit juice is all I drink. Fruit juices are filled with sugar unfortunately so I dilute everything with water.

Torani and Selzer water is awesome, and only like 30 calories.

As far as Aspartame goes, I suggest watching the documentary called 'Sweet Misery'. It will blow u away.

 

[LesBaker]

Intersting stuff. I consider myself to be a pretty healthy eater compared to the average American, but some of you are at an entirely different level. I do have a well and love the water. After having town water my whole life, I couldn't believe the difference in taste. I will have to do an iodine test. I have read bout it in the past but never tried it.

The trouble with eating healthy is it costs more money. Groceries are so expensive. I go to a Mennonite store but most of their products commercial too. I have found. They do sell raw honey though! We have replaced table sugar with raw honey in our house and I believe more than coincidentally we have less common illness.

Two things that I need to research more are hypoglycemia and vitiligo. My wife gets low bood sugar at times and has to get something to eat. She will actually shake until she gets food. She has not been diagnosed with a problem but it does not seem normal. I have Vitiligo on my hands. The immune system kills the pigments cells. There is very little known about it. Some people on the net claim to have natural cures but I am Leary. I would love to reverse the process.

If she is visibly shaking it could also be that her body needs more protien, not just the sugar. You should go to a skilled dietitian.

 

[Stranger]

 

[Stranger]

Intersting stuff. I consider myself to be a pretty healthy eater compared to the average American, but some of you are at an entirely different level. I do have a well and love the water. After having town water my whole life, I couldn't believe the difference in taste. I will have to do an iodine test. I have read bout it in the past but never tried it.

The trouble with eating healthy is it costs more money. Groceries are so expensive. I go to a Mennonite store but most of their products commercial too. I have found. They do sell raw honey though! We have replaced table sugar with raw honey in our house and I believe more than coincidentally we have less common illness.

Two things that I need to research more are hypoglycemia and vitiligo. My wife gets low bood sugar at times and has to get something to eat. She will actually shake until she gets food. She has not been diagnosed with a problem but it does not seem normal. I have Vitiligo on my hands. The immune system kills the pigments cells. There is very little known about it. Some people on the net claim to have natural cures but I am Leary. I would love to reverse the process.

Our entire endocrine systems have been hijacked by a food web repleast with toxins. If you haven't already, I urge you and your wife to watch some of the videos I've posted in this thread.