Evans needs to go

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Dumbest decision by far by McVay was to keep Bobby Evans. I know we arent supposed to call them names, but dude's game is trash as an o-linemen. We should have given that opportunity to some new blood. I mean, look what happened when Alaric Jackson finally got a chance. So many miscues are biting us in the ass. And yes, I'll bring Creed Humphrey into this because that fuck up keeps rearing it's head around thanks to our o-line problems.
You're missing the part where they played Jackson ahead of Evans.

My point being..yeah, they kinda know what's going on with their talent. Not always right, but they have a pretty good idea.
Evans very well may not have been on the roster if Bruss didn't get hurt.

People on here act like he was a starter or main backup.
 

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You're missing the part where they played Jackson ahead of Evans.

My point being..yeah, they kinda know what's going on with their talent. Not always right, but they have a pretty good idea.
Evans very well may not have been on the roster if Bruss didn't get hurt.

People on here act like he was a starter or main backup.
I get what you are saying but I was on record prior to cuts happening saying he doesn't belong on our roster. I could care less about knowing our scheme because if you are a turnstile, it doesn't matter. I would have rather had an undrafted rookie a chance since his play is probably on par or worse than that type of player. We know who Bobby is and hoping he changes is insanity. Hopefully the humble pie McVay and Snead are eating about our line changes their approach in the future. Thought they learned that lesson last time around. Also not connecting Jackson with Evans since I was mostly referencing just giving new blood a chance since you don't really know what you have until live bullets start flying. We could find a diamond in the rough that way and we all know Evans isn't one or close to that at all.
 

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I get what you are saying but I was on record prior to cuts happening saying he doesn't belong on our roster. I could care less about knowing our scheme because if you are a turnstile, it doesn't matter. I would have rather had an undrafted rookie a chance since his play is probably on par or worse than that type of player. We know who Bobby is and hoping he changes is insanity. Hopefully the humble pie McVay and Snead are eating about our line changes their approach in the future. Thought they learned that lesson last time around. Also not connecting Jackson with Evans since I was mostly referencing just giving new blood a chance since you don't really know what you have until live bullets start flying. We could find a diamond in the rough that way and we all know Evans isn't one or close to that at all.
For every Jackson, there's a Kolone.
 

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For every Jackson, there's a Kolone.
Totally agree but that's why you gotta churn em out when you can. Getting lucky with picks definitely contributes to success and our luck on the o-line there isn't good lately. Well at least we got a ring out of all this last year. Doubt getting another without a shit ton of luck is in the cards this year.
 

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Totally agree but that's why you gotta churn em out when you can. Getting lucky with picks definitely contributes to success and our luck on the o-line there isn't good lately. Well at least we got a ring out of all this last year. Doubt getting another without a shit ton of luck is in the cards this year.
One of the biggest issues when lines go bad is communication problems. Evans at least knows the terminology and his role. Yeah, he's really bad.. but, again.. he was the 9th or 10th lineman. Even experienced guys like Aboushi take a few weeks to get up to basic speed in a new offense... and, remember.. if you take them from a practice squad, they go on your active roster.

It's not just that easy.

They got hit with a ridiculous amount of injuries on the Oline.. that's just something we have to accept.
A healthy line at this point might be Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein. I think that could've been interesting.

We'll see what the offseason brings. I'd try to keep someone like Nsekhe or another veteran swing.. cut Noteboom to free up a little money and draft a couple of lineman.
 

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This is where it gets frustrating and for many of us, it has happened over the years. Bobby Evans IMHO, should not be starting and has done nothing to make me feel otherwise. I actually believe unless he totally whiffs on a block, I consider it a plus.

The fact of the matter is, presently, where else do they go? Matt Skura has played Guard, but he's also your backup center. Chandler Brewer has quite frankly not been much better and is the only option presently. If Edwards & Shelton get back, then they can play Guard and I understand that Evans was way down on the depth chart during training camp, but I just wish the Rams would identify some solid options moving forward plus actually utilize some draft capital although in fairness they did use their 3rd round pick for Bruss, who was injured and A.J. Arcuri, however, Arcuri does not have the ability to play Guard.
 

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This is where it gets frustrating and for many of us, it has happened over the years. Bobby Evans IMHO, should not be starting and has done nothing to make me feel otherwise. I actually believe unless he totally whiffs on a block, I consider it a plus.

The fact of the matter is, presently, where else do they go? Matt Skura has played Guard, but he's also your backup center. Chandler Brewer has quite frankly not been much better and is the only option presently. If Edwards & Shelton get back, then they can play Guard and I understand that Evans was way down on the depth chart during training camp, but I just wish the Rams would identify some solid options moving forward plus actually utilize some draft capital although in fairness they did use their 3rd round pick for Bruss, who was injured and A.J. Arcuri, however, Arcuri does not have the ability to play Guard.
Yeah this year when we were down to missing 2 starters on the OL before the season started that they actually decided to draft an OL before the 7th round.

I am going to continue harping on the fact that we had quite a few 3rd 4th 5th and 6th round picks in 2020 and 2021 and we didn't draft an OL in either of those drafts before the 7th round.

And we desperately needed at minimum a center in both years and god forbid we draft a center when there were potentially 4 good centers each year in those drafts.

We all know about Creed but I still can't believe we didn't draft Biadesz over Hopkins
 

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I have stated in the OL thread that we should have drafted an OL or two in 2020 and 2021 in the first four rounds and we didn't draft one - nada

That is why we are in such deep dog shit right now

Of course, we can always go back to the reliable Creed instead of Tutu statements lol
I have always had this draft theory. It goes something like this, "most" years the Rams should spend a top 3 pick on the O line. The Rams O line bench should be full of young studs frothing at the mouth to get in the game.
Back in the 80s when the Rams acquired Jim Everett they had to give up "the great" Kent Hill to Houston as part of the trade. You know, the best pulling guard in the NFL at the time.
Well, we had this 2nd rounder on the bench frothing at the mouth to play. His name was Tom Newberry and that man made 2 Pro Bowls and one All Pro.
The Rams were able to draft WR talent like Ellard and Flipper and had Dickerson while having young talent on the O line bench.
Yes, much easier before free agency (which kind of ruined football) but this idea the current Rams brass has about some years NEVER drafting O line talent should go out the window.

You think for one second McSnead would not rather have a 320lb man with quick feet right now instead of TuTu ?
You simply can not go wrong with lots of O line talent on a NFL roster. Much more important than a whispy, scrawny WR that most full grown men can beat up.
 

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I have always had this draft theory. It goes something like this, "most" years the Rams should spend a top 3 pick on the O line. The Rams O line bench should be full of young studs frothing at the mouth to get in the game.
Back in the 80s when the Rams acquired Jim Everett they had to give up "the great" Kent Hill to Houston as part of the trade. You know, the best pulling guard in the NFL at the time.
Well, we had this 2nd rounder on the bench frothing at the mouth to play. His name was Tom Newberry and that man made 2 Pro Bowls and one All Pro.
The Rams were able to draft WR talent like Ellard and Flipper and had Dickerson while having young talent on the O line bench.
Yes, much easier before free agency (which kind of ruined football) but this idea the current Rams brass has about some years NEVER drafting O line talent should go out the window.

You think for one second McSnead would not rather have a 320lb man with quick feet right now instead of TuTu ?
You simply can not go wrong with lots of O line talent on a NFL roster. Much more important than a whispy, scrawny WR that most full grown men can beat up.
From 1981-89... the Rams drafted 3 offensive linemen in the first three rounds.
The unforgettable Bill Bechtold in 82
Mike Schad and Tom Newberry in 86.

So... enjoy your revisionist history... but it's not really reflective of what happened.
 

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I have always had this draft theory. It goes something like this, "most" years the Rams should spend a top 3 pick on the O line. The Rams O line bench should be full of young studs frothing at the mouth to get in the game.
Back in the 80s when the Rams acquired Jim Everett they had to give up "the great" Kent Hill to Houston as part of the trade. You know, the best pulling guard in the NFL at the time.
Well, we had this 2nd rounder on the bench frothing at the mouth to play. His name was Tom Newberry and that man made 2 Pro Bowls and one All Pro.
The Rams were able to draft WR talent like Ellard and Flipper and had Dickerson while having young talent on the O line bench.
Yes, much easier before free agency (which kind of ruined football) but this idea the current Rams brass has about some years NEVER drafting O line talent should go out the window.

You think for one second McSnead would not rather have a 320lb man with quick feet right now instead of TuTu ?
You simply can not go wrong with lots of O line talent on a NFL roster. Much more important than a whispy, scrawny WR that most full grown men can beat up.
I agree completely with you.

Our OL in the 60s 70s and 80s were always top notch

And then the 90s came and ugh

I think Georgia must have had a hand it it.
 

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Could it be that Akers may have some valid criticism of the rushing attack game plan?

Seems to me Kromer did a better job cordinating the ground game in 19', playing multiple rookies on the OL, than Carberry has done this yr and during last yrs playoffs for that matter.

Maybe Akers shouldn't be as vilified as he has been. Maybe he is just extremely frustrated. And sure he has issues as well, but seems there are bigger problems than just him and the OL.
 

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Could it be that Akers may have some valid criticism of the rushing attack game plan?

Seems to me Kromer did a better job cordinating the ground game in 19', playing multiple rookies on the OL, than Carberry has done this yr and during last yrs playoffs for that matter.

Maybe Akers shouldn't be as vilified as he has been. Maybe he is just extremely frustrated. And sure he has issues as well, but seems there are bigger problems than just him and the OL.

Akers isn't the coach. I can get his frustrations, but he has missed some big holes too, and he has basically quit on the team. That's inexcusable.

On the chance that he isn't traded and does play for the Rams again, he'd better be lights fucking out to make up for the shit he's pulled.
 

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Akers isn't the coach. I can get his frustrations, but he has missed some big holes too, and he has basically quit on the team. That's inexcusable.

On the chance that he isn't traded and does play for the Rams again, he'd better be lights fucking out to make up for the shit he's pulled.
I agree with that, but it could be he sees a big problem and handled it very poorly.
 

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Overall Evans is ranked 79th out of 81 guards at a whopping 37.3 rating on PFF. So he's stepped up his game a few notches. :laugh4:

Kolone was 37th out of 37 centers at an enormous 36.1 rating. Room to grow. :laugh2:

Where do we get these stiffs, and why do we p(l)ay them?
 

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Overall Evans is ranked 79th out of 81 guards at a whopping 37.3 rating on PFF. So he's stepped up his game a few notches. :laugh4:

Kolone was 37th out of 37 centers at an enormous 36.1 rating. Room to grow. :laugh2:

Where do we get these stiffs, and why do we p(l)ay them?
Find somebody on practice squad maybe Mike Caliendo of the Kansas City Chiefs....Can he be any worse?