ESPN: Rams over/under 7.5 wins

[LesBaker]

You've been nailing it lately @Mojo Ram
It's like Blutarsky popped a big zit and wisdom is coming out, instead of, you know, white puss and stuff.

One degree of Kevin Bacon.

 

[OldSchool]

yea with his 828 yards, 6.6 ypa and 4 td's and 1 int in 5 starts. What a beast. He was nothing more than an average game manager at best. Keenum didn't win those games for them, he just didn't lose them. Yea, crap could get really ugly if they crown someone QB over that greatness.........unless they start foles nothing could be uglier.

Give me a freaking break.

And on that note what do you think an upgrade at QB will do for the team? I understand not crediting Keenum he was exactly what you're saying. Now though we're upgrading that position and putting in a guy talented enough to win games for us.

 

[RamzFanz]

Keenum didn't win those games for them, he just didn't lose them.

Which was my point.

And crowning a rookie over a QB who could easily produce a winning season without a real competition could result in Foles part 2. It serves no purpose.

 

[Tron]

And on that note what do you think an upgrade at QB will do for the team?.

Get us more points, and as a result more wins.

 

[OldSchool]

Which was my point.

And crowning a rookie over a QB who could easily produce a winning season without a real competition could result in Foles part 2. It serves no purpose.

Get us more points, and as a result more wins.

Which is everybody's point, just by adding Goff in at QB not even including the young WR's and the growth in the OLine we're a much better team and capable of more win.s

 

[Tron]

Which was my point.

And crowning a rookie over a QB who could easily produce a winning season without a real competition could result in Foles part 2. It serves no purpose.

I agree competition is the right course of action. But why do you think Keenum could easily produce a winning season? he didn't produce those wins, he just didnt cost us them. I think Goff will win the starting job at some point this season.

 

[OldSchool]

The big 2 I don't agree with are the LB and DE. JL55 made a ton of tackles too bad they were 5 yards past the LOS. Long was hurt so much lately it's hard to call anybody that can stay healthy a down grade (and keep in mind he was my favorite Ram by far).

The WR/TE we won't know like you say for a long time so is for now probably a push but the production in the passing game was so bad I'm optimistic.

CB/FS could be slight down grades but we really won't know until the season gets going. McLeod only as I said had one good year the previous years he was majorly inconsistent and his best ability was trying to catch up with WR's who got behind him. Jenkins finally put it all together last year, though he didn't have any big plays, but was that a contract year abberation? Same with McLeod.

All in all I don't think the defense will suffer much at all this year. I think our DE rotation stays healthy and has their best year under Fisher/Williams. Also I think Tree will be a major upgrade over JL and make a lot of big plays.

 

[OldSchool]

Fair enough!

 

[DenverRam]

i agree. under.

Lost 5 players on D.

Look at the Titans and Bucs, they drafted franchise qbs and still ended up with a bad record. And Bucs have offensive weapons. Titans have DGB.

Rams still have no OLB rusher. And to be frank, are really thin with only baron and tree there. Still need a 3rd guy, and some depth behind them. I dont think Ayers or Hager are the answers.

Rams fans should look to 2017 or 18. Not trying to be a dick or anything, i just don't see the Rams D as great as some have stated in here. Its gotten closer to average since last year. Need a lot more pass rushers then just Quinn and Donald.

Alot of holes still. A couple good drafts or FA acquisitions and they could be something special. I wouldn't expect instant results.

 

[Mojo Ram]

The Bucs went from 2-14 to 6-10 in 2015. That's the Winston factor.

 

[Roman Snow]

i agree. under.

Lost 5 players on D. We only really 'lost' McLeod in my mind. And the coaches may have a plan for an upgrade there. The rest of the players-Long, Laurinitis and even Janoris, we shed in order to hit the next level on defense.

You forgot to mention returning injured players, and signing Coples?

Look at the Titans and Bucs, they drafted franchise qbs and still ended up with a bad record. And Bucs have offensive weapons. Titans have DGB. Look at the Los Angeles Rams. We have weapons. Gurley, Tavon, and we are not starting from the bottom like the Titans and Bucs.

Rams still have no OLB rusher. Barron?and that is not our scheme. We are 4-3. Besides Williams effectively sends safeties and LBs, and runs the big-Nickle. Again, you forget we are getting Tree back healthy too. Ayers will also be more effective his second year in the system. And to be frank, are really thin with only baron and tree there. Still need a 3rd guy, and some depth behind them. I dont think Ayers or Hager are the answers.

Rams fans should look to 2017 or 18. Not trying to be a dick or anything, i just don't see the Rams D as great as some have stated in here. Its gotten closer to average since last year. It's actually closer to great, with our wise pruning. Need a lot more pass rushers then just Quinn and Donald....and Hayes, and Sims, and Brockers and Coples and Westbrooks.

Alot of holes still. A couple good drafts or FA acquisitions and they could be something special. I wouldn't expect instant results We have been watching this team grow for 4 years. Our 11-5 season this year will hardly be seen as instant results, if you are seeing what is happening. You may be right Denver, but this is how I see it.

 

[DaveFan'51]

I agree competition is the right course of action. But why do you think Keenum could easily produce a winning season? he didn't produce those wins, he just didnt cost us them. I think Goff will win the starting job at some point this season.

I'm just going to stay Cautiously optimistic at this point, about Goff starting Week #1!!

 

[JackDRams]

i agree. under.

Lost 5 players on D.

Look at the Titans and Bucs, they drafted franchise qbs and still ended up with a bad record. And Bucs have offensive weapons. Titans have DGB.

Rams still have no OLB rusher. And to be frank, are really thin with only baron and tree there. Still need a 3rd guy, and some depth behind them. I dont think Ayers or Hager are the answers.

Rams fans should look to 2017 or 18. Not trying to be a dick or anything, i just don't see the Rams D as great as some have stated in here. Its gotten closer to average since last year. Need a lot more pass rushers then just Quinn and Donald.

Alot of holes still. A couple good drafts or FA acquisitions and they could be something special. I wouldn't expect instant results.

The Bucs and Titans were absolute trash compared to the Rams when they got their franchise QBs. The Rams roster is light years better then where they were at. And Mariota got hurt. So that's a horseshit comparison as to why the Rams will decline from last year. And we don't have enough pass rush? You label Tree as OLB, which questions your fandom, as he's now playing in the middle. Yeah we could use depth at LBer, but our starters are solid. And we generate pass rush not only from Donald, Quinn and he backers, but we routinely send corners and safeties up past the line of scrimmage for pressure. Are you a Broncos fan primarily, and a Rams fan second? We really only have two losses on defense in Jenkins and McLeod. If you count JL, Long and Fairley, then your knit picking, because they left for a reason. We have better options already in house. Maybe not so much for Fairley, but Coples intreagues me.

 

[MrMotes]

The Rams haven't gone over 7.5 wins in 9 straight years.

I can see how people would like the under.

And looking at the line from the CBS article CGI posted:

Los Angeles Rams 7.5 Over (+115) / Under (-140)

You can see the money is coming in on the under (-140) while they're enticing you to take the over at +115.

So, may seem wrong to us, but the conventional wisdom (and money) is saying under 7.5...

 

[Roman Snow]

The Rams haven't gone over 7.5 wins in 9 straight years.

I can see how people would like the under.

And looking at the line from the CBS article CGI posted:



You can see the money is coming in on the under (-140) while they're enticing you to take the over at +115.

So, may seem wrong to us, but the conventional wisdom (and money) is saying under 7.5...

This is why I never get caught up too much in "bet speak". Everything becomes a number and a trend. It tends to miss the reality of things. Therefore it is a hair behind seeing what the eye sees.

 

[DaveFan'51]

The Rams haven't gone over 7.5 wins in 9 straight years.

I can see how people would like the under.

And looking at the line from the CBS article CGI posted:



You can see the money is coming in on the under (-140) while they're enticing you to take the over at +115.

So, may seem wrong to us, but the conventional wisdom (and money) is saying under 7.5...

Well .... I just Layed down Large at the ROD SportsBook betting the Over!!

 

[DenverRam]

The Bucs and Titans were absolute trash compared to the Rams when they got their franchise QBs. The Rams roster is light years better then where they were at. And Mariota got hurt. So that's a horseshit comparison as to why the Rams will decline from last year. And we don't have enough pass rush? You label Tree as OLB, which questions your fandom, as he's now playing in the middle. Yeah we could use depth at LBer, but our starters are solid. And we generate pass rush not only from Donald, Quinn and he backers, but we routinely send corners and safeties up past the line of scrimmage for pressure. Are you a Broncos fan primarily, and a Rams fan second? We really only have two losses on defense in Jenkins and McLeod. If you count JL, Long and Fairley, then your knit picking, because they left for a reason. We have better options already in house. Maybe not so much for Fairley, but Coples intreagues me.

They still have more offensive weapons. Although Todd Gurley does now slant that in the Rams favor. But Mike Evans, Vjax, DGB, are all #1 Wrs.

Lol its not horseshit.

No, i meant as a LB core. Tree and Baron are the current LB core. Need a 3rd legitimate starter. I know everyone here is saying "Tree is going to be a natural MLB and even be better!", but its not his natural position, he played OLB all years in Georgia. Ayers is not scaring anybody. Doesn't matter if the Rams run a 4-3 or a 3-4, they need another two edge rushers. QC is a band aid. I was impressed when he was a rookie, but his last few years have been pretty unimpressive, even as he played in his natural scheme.

Sending safeties and CB are good an all, but most of the Rams secondary is kind of small. So they would excel blitzing fast QBs like Wilson, but would have a tougher time, bringing down someone like Big ben.

I wouldnt say i am more Broncos or Rams, both pretty even in my fandom. Ownership doesn't come close thou. Along with FO.

Rams dont only really have two losses, of course i count Long, JL and Fairley, they were actual starters last year. Fairley not so much, but I view the rest as a bigger loss then Malik jackson for Denver, as he only played 30% of snaps, kind of like Fairley. What better options in house do the Rams have? Hager? Westbrook? Sims? These guys are unproven and or have not ever really made an impact.

The CB core is good, but the edge rushers and LB core is extremely weak and lacking depth.

All it takes is for Quinn to be injured, and the pass rush will dissapear. Need far more pass rushers that can step in and make the impact he had.

The Rams haven't gone over 7.5 wins in 9 straight years.

I can see how people would like the under.

And looking at the line from the CBS article CGI posted:



You can see the money is coming in on the under (-140) while they're enticing you to take the over at +115.

So, may seem wrong to us, but the conventional wisdom (and money) is saying under 7.5...

yup.