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[Elmgrovegnome]

Sounds like Santa Claus is out there. But hey we can ignore the rest.

Like I said. You didn’t name any better options. In that case it’s just whining.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Shelton is a bit of a puzzle. It could be that Stafford is more comfortable with him. If he just anchors better, he could surprise.

I remember reading that with Shelton in at Center, they were picking up almost a yard more per carry when they ran the ball inside than they did with Limmer.
I was the first one to call out Ellenbogan for talking out of his ass when he said that Shelton was signed to be the starter.
But after reading about that statistic, I'm pretty sure Coleman will be starting with Limmer backing him up.
That's a pretty big stat, and once again, gives us more options on offense.
Add in that you can never be too deep and experienced on the inside of the line.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Dude Calm your tits.

My titties got in an uproar when we signed Reeder as well.

Ever since then I've been wearing a manssiere.

Luckily, I'm not too overweight so it's only an A-cup.

 

[PARAM]

Tutu has never been higher than the fourth receiving option.

That seems to be the consensus Rams fans opinion. Yet in the 4 games Kupp and Puka missed last year, Tutu had more targets in each game than DRob.....by a lot (34 - 19 total). It could be said that's an indication of who was #3 and who was #4. On those targets, Atwell had 23 receptions for 332 yards while DRob had 9 for 156 yards, 1 TD. Now if you go by offensive snaps....DRob 90.9%; Atwell 68.5%.....DRob played more. But "playing more" and being a target more, are two different things. In fact if you look at the targets with respect to the snap percentages, it's crystal clear Tutu was the better option.

As far as Humphrey over Atwell, sure that's an easy one. Pro Bowl center vs #3 WR. And yet the Rams managed to win a SB without both. There is no significant proof the Rams would have finished any better than they did from 2022-2024 with Humphrey instead of Tutu. None what-so-ever. Mahomes was sacked 6 times in SBLIX behind an OL that included Creed Humphrey. Humphrey alone couldn't make a significant difference because the OL is a 5 man job. There is the fact he's the one making the line calls though. Sure, taking nothing else into consideration, Humphrey over Tutu is a no-brainer. As I've pointed out, there are other things to consider. Like 1 WR can make a huge difference in the outcome of the game.

 

[snackdaddy]

There was nothing in Atwell's numbers that warrant 10 million dollars. So yeah, that is a head scratcher. But I am intrigued. He does have nice route running skills and good hands. Definitely a speedster. Most times he'll be the fastest guy on the field. Question is, were they under using him for 4 years? If so, will they have a better plan for him? Does Stafford trust him?

 

[Corbin]

He just might be a camp body, who has experience in the system. They brought in 3 other MLB's. So I don't get why people are upset with his signing. It's a near non event.

Because there is no point to having him as a camp body. Might as well bring back Rozeboom while we are at it.

 

[Corbin]

My titties got in an uproar when we signed Reeder as well.

Ever since then I've been wearing a manssiere.

Luckily, I'm not too overweight so it's only an A-cup.

If they were C cup I was about to ask for photos

 

[Soul Surfer]

My thinking on Tutu;
They are literally going to do a slight redesign of the offense to get him the ball more often and have him out there as the third wide receiver, often on the outside.
Sort of a refreshing of the same old idea of opening up the middle and short yards by tying up the outside receivers.
But this time we're going to pull the old switcheroo and actually use the outside receivers more.
We've been so good at finding these ballsy, tough as nails receivers that catch it over the middle consistently that we haven't really utilized the outside as much as we could or should. JMO.

 

[Soul Surfer]

If they were C cup I was about to ask for photos

Do you have venmo?

There's nothing free in this world.

 

[PARAM]

There was nothing in Atwell's numbers that warrant 10 million dollars.

As fans, I think we might agree, please don't pay a guy for what he's done.....pay him for what he's going to do.

But I am intrigued. He does have nice route running skills and good hands. Definitely a speedster. Most times he'll be the fastest guy on the field. Question is, were they under using him for 4 years? If so, will they have a better plan for him? Does Stafford trust him?

And that is the $10 mil dollar question.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Because there is no point to having him as a camp body. Might as well bring back Rozeboom while we are at it.

Rozeboom got snatched up fairly quickly in the off-season but nobody seemed interested in Reeder. (Surprise! )
He was there and he does have starting experience and knows the defense.
I think he could be a big plus in camp. My guess is he'll probably end up on the practice squad and contribute during weekly practices.
Also an emergency special teamer, which he has always been pretty good at.
I like every move they made during the off-season personally.

 

[RamFan503]

Atwell gives me another frustrating year where others expect me to use his stupid nickname,

Say it with me Memsie. TU TU

TuTu makes the long catch over his shoulder. Tutu draws the 50 yard PI. Tutu around the edge for the TD.

Might as well bring back Rozeboom while we are at it.

What are we trading to get him from Carolina?

 

[So Ram]

As much as I liked a lot of what we did there are things I feel we didn't do we should have like a change at LT and add a top end CB. The team however didn't want those things so I'll back them. I do like what we did though.

Well you’ll be surprised at Emanuel Forbes for sure.His length & skill set will show up.

Ahkello Whiterspoon is one of my favorite players.He doesn’t bring the Drama that Ramsey does.His cover skills are solid & if you look at the numbers in the playoffs you should see that against The 2 Top WR’s in the NFL. There’s another reason for those Sack Numbers beside just the pass rush.

LT - The Rams might have got lucky bringing in a couple veterans
to add to the group.

Tutu Atwell still has SO much upside.I looked back at a few games in 2024 & he made some clutch plays.His speed & route running should really show up this season.His confidence after the signing of a prove it deal is good for both parties.

Don’t sleep on Jordan Whiterspoon either.He real found himself at the end of 2024.

Still Alaric Jackson after signing his contract made LT a stable position.Plus the extra 1st rd pick should give The Rams that luxury in next seasons draft

 

[PARAM]

My thinking on Tutu;
They are literally going to do a slight redesign of the offense to get him the ball more often and have him out there as the third wide receiver, often on the outside.
Sort of a refreshing of the same old idea of opening up the middle and short yards by tying up the outside receivers.
But this time we're going to pull the old switcheroo and actually use the outside receivers more.
We've been so good at finding these ballsy, tough as nails receivers that catch it over the middle consistently that we haven't really utilized the outside as much as we could or should. JMO.

Nate Scheelhaase is in his 2nd year as "pass game coordinator". We'll see what he can do with Yarber, LaFleur, McVay and Tutu.

In the 5 games without Puka including 4 without Kupp. Tutu had 12 plays of 10 yards or more. In 2 games, he had the longest (25 y) and 2nd longest (22y) and longest (50y) and 3rd longest (24y). It's pretty clear his forte is getting deep but he's also a very reliable target in the midrange with a great set of hands. In those games he had 6 plays of 20 yards plus and 2 more of 15 plus. Those are impact plays.. But when you have WRs the caliber of Puka and Kupp on the field, the #3 WR isn't going to get a lot of looks. When they were using the run game, DRob was on the field rather than Tutu for obvious reasons. Like Snackdaddy said, it's going to be interesting to see how they use him in 2025.

 

[Corbin]

Say it with me Memsie. TU TU

TuTu makes the long catch over his shoulder. Tutu draws the 50 yard PI. Tutu around the edge for the TD.

What are we trading to get him from Carolina?

They’ve probably trade us a 7th to take those handsome locks back

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That seems to be the consensus Rams fans opinion. Yet in the 4 games Kupp and Puka missed last year, Tutu had more targets in each game than DRob.....by a lot (34 - 19 total). It could be said that's an indication of who was #3 and who was #4. On those targets, Atwell had 23 receptions for 332 yards while DRob had 9 for 156 yards, 1 TD. Now if you go by offensive snaps....DRob 90.9%; Atwell 68.5%.....DRob played more. But "playing more" and being a target more, are two different things. In fact if you look at the targets with respect to the snap percentages, it's crystal clear Tutu was the better option.

As far as Humphrey over Atwell, sure that's an easy one. Pro Bowl center vs #3 WR. And yet the Rams managed to win a SB without both. There is no significant proof the Rams would have finished any better than they did from 2022-2024 with Humphrey instead of Tutu. None what-so-ever. Mahomes was sacked 6 times in SBLIX behind an OL that included Creed Humphrey. Humphrey alone couldn't make a significant difference because the OL is a 5 man job. There is the fact he's the one making the line calls though. Sure, taking nothing else into consideration, Humphrey over Tutu is a no-brainer. As I've pointed out, there are other things to consider. Like 1 WR can make a huge difference in the outcome of the game.

That’s an oversimplification. Humphrey is a top 3 center. Shelton and Limmer aren’t close in talent. The Chiefs blocking woes had everything to do with the guards and tackles, one of which, Thuney, is actually a guard. You cannot legitimately use that as a reason not to want Humphrey.

0-1-3-0 that’s the number of TDs Atwell has in four years. McVay didn’t like using him as a red zone threat. Plus, this past season when the offensive line was riddled with injury, Stafford had less time to throw deeper routes to Demarcus Robinson. Atwell ran more short and intermediate routes. Plus although Robinson was the third receiver, the offense ran through Puka and Kupp’s positions. So Atwell stepping in when Kupp or Puka were injured would likely get him more targets than DRob.

I’m not saying Atwell hasn’t been a useful fill-in. But it’s clear that in the Humphrey/Atwell discussion that Humphrey was the better selection.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I remember reading that with Shelton in at Center, they were picking up almost a yard more per carry when they ran the ball inside than they did with Limmer.
I was the first one to call out Ellenbogan for talking out of his ass when he said that Shelton was signed to be the starter.
But after reading about that statistic, I'm pretty sure Coleman will be starting with Limmer backing him up.
That's a pretty big stat, and once again, gives us more options on offense.
Add in that you can never be too deep and experienced on the inside of the line.

I think it’s obvious that Shelton was brought back to start as soon as they signed him.

 

[den-the-coach]

As much as I liked a lot of what we did there are things I feel we didn't do we should have like a change at LT and add a top end CB. The team however didn't want those things so I'll back them. I do like what we did though.

Actually I was fine with extended Jackson, he was the best option out there, but the blood clots came back. They needed to draft a swing tackle, but they passed on that and now have to hope Humphries can step. concur on corner 100%.

 

[OldSchool]

Actually I was fine with extended Jackson, he was the best option out there, but the blood clots came back. They needed to draft a swing tackle, but they passed on that and now have to hope Humphries can step. concur on corner 100%.

There were options other than Santa Claus that has been discussed enough times that it's really not worth going over again and again but that's fine. The blood clots were an issue that a lot of people tried to convince others wouldn't be an issue again. But as members have testified to it's always going to be an issue.

 

[dang]

Because there is no point to having him as a camp body. Might as well bring back Rozeboom while we are at it.

Reeder is likely insurance IF Landman or Speights gets injured - AND - Dolac or Paul don’t acclimate enough.