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OldSchool said:
Could be a fun day 3 WR pick after we get a speedy X type IMO.


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I know I'm not supposed to think much of forty times...but that's way too slow. If we're picking a wideout on Day Three, I want it to be Isaac TeSlaa. He tested off the charts athletically, has outstanding hands (no career drops), and his only real weakness is production (although given that Arkansas's O-line situation was awful in 2023 and Armstrong got the vast amounts of targets) and the ability to separate as a route runner, but we're talking about a 6'4", 214 lbs. receiver who had an above average RAS on everything a wide receiver can be graded on.
 
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Memento said:
I know I'm not supposed to think much of forty times...but that's way too slow. If we're picking a wideout on Day Three, I want it to be Isaac TeSlaa. He tested off the charts athletically, has outstanding hands (no career drops), and his only real weakness is production (although given that Arkansas's O-line situation was awful in 2023 and Armstrong got the vast amounts of targets) and the ability to separate as a route runner, but we're talking about a 6'4", 214 lbs. receiver who had an above average RAS on everything a wide receiver can be graded on.
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There's an injury there imo that we'll find out about soon. While he's not a burner he's absolutely not that slow if you'd watched him play at all.
 
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TheTackle said:
He turned out to be pretty good, heh
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Somebody - forget who - said Restrepo was a WR that Biliecheet would love... now I think the point was a great slot guy like Amendola, Edelman or Welker... but I wouldn't want to be a WR that someone says Bill loves given all the rest of the WRs he's taken over the years.
 

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Memento said:
I know I'm not supposed to think much of forty times...but that's way too slow. If we're picking a wideout on Day Three, I want it to be Isaac TeSlaa. He tested off the charts athletically, has outstanding hands (no career drops), and his only real weakness is production (although given that Arkansas's O-line situation was awful in 2023 and Armstrong got the vast amounts of targets) and the ability to separate as a route runner, but we're talking about a 6'4", 214 lbs. receiver who had an above average RAS on everything a wide receiver can be graded on.
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If we're going to talk about flawed WRs, I would rather the flaw be athleticism than production and an inability to separate as a route runner. I'd take Restrepo over TeSlaa any day and I like TeSlaa.
 
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DzRams said:
If we're going to talk about flawed WRs, I would rather the flaw be athleticism than production and an inability to separate as a route runner. I'd take Restrepo over TeSlaa any day and I like TeSlaa.
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Like Nacua's flaws were injuries and overall production, not athleticism? TeSlaa's not perfect, but I like his potential more in the sixth than I do Restrepo's in the fourth (where we'd have to take him; we don't currently have a fifth round pick).
 

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Memento said:
Like Nacua's flaws were injuries and overall production, not athleticism? TeSlaa's not perfect, but I like his potential more in the sixth than I do Restrepo's in the fourth (where we'd have to take him; we don't currently have a fifth round pick).
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Lack of production due to injuries is a separate thing from lack of production despite being healthy. Basically, I'm saying I'd take the Kupp type: very productive but falls due to limited athleticism. The workout warriors who aren't productive pan out far less than that type.

Also, due to Restrepo's numbers, he's a 5th or 6th now. Doubtful he goes in the 4th.
 
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Lack of production due to injuries is a separate thing from lack of production despite being healthy. Basically, I'm saying I'd take the Kupp type: very productive but falls due to limited athleticism. The workout warriors who aren't productive pan out far less than that type.

Also, due to Restrepo's numbers, he's a 5th or 6th now. Doubtful he goes in the 4th.
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Restrepo's overall production is going to keep him in the fourth or fifth. He was Ward's safety net all season, and before that, was still uber-productive, regarded as a potential second-round pick. He's not going to fall to the sixth round.

And TeSlaa's production in 2024 faded the moment Andrew Armstrong broke out (but he was still on the field as a blocker and a third-down threat). In 2023, a lost year for Arkansas as a whole, he didn't have much of an offensive line for his quarterback (K.J. Jefferson, who got injured during the Mizzou game because he got sacked a lot), which made basically everyone there have a down year. The second they got an offensive line, TeSlaa and Armstrong were productive.

I view TeSlaa similar to Whittington, albeit for different reasons. He has the athleticism Whittington lacks, and the reasons they were unproductive were different, but neither of them had insane production. Nacua didn't have insane production. I don't think that matters too much in a receiver: just what they can do in your system.

In addition, they're completely different positions (TeSlaa being a definite X, Restrepo being slot only). I already expect the Rams to double down on the receiver position, one who can play immediately, and a developmental one for when Adams leaves.
 
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I like Ewers as a later 4th round developmental QB. I wouldn’t love it, but could be worth it. Any earlier (before 4th round) and no way - Dart, Shough…and probably McCord before him.
 

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Memento said:
Restrepo's overall production is going to keep him in the fourth or fifth. He was Ward's safety net all season, and before that, was still uber-productive, regarded as a potential second-round pick. He's not going to fall to the sixth round.

And TeSlaa's production in 2024 faded the moment Andrew Armstrong broke out (but he was still on the field as a blocker and a third-down threat). In 2023, a lost year for Arkansas as a whole, he didn't have much of an offensive line for his quarterback (K.J. Jefferson, who got injured during the Mizzou game because he got sacked a lot), which made basically everyone there have a down year. The second they got an offensive line, TeSlaa and Armstrong were productive.

I view TeSlaa similar to Whittington, albeit for different reasons. He has the athleticism Whittington lacks, and the reasons they were unproductive were different, but neither of them had insane production. Nacua didn't have insane production. I don't think that matters too much in a receiver: just what they can do in your system.

In addition, they're completely different positions (TeSlaa being a definite X, Restrepo being slot only). I already expect the Rams to double down on the receiver position, one who can play immediately, and a developmental one for when Adams leaves.
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Maybe you're right on Restrepo. Do you know of any examples where a WR was super productive but ran in the 4.8's?

Production matters a lot in a receiver. I believe that production has the strongest correlation to a successful NFL career. When a player has low production, it warrants a very close critical look.
 
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DzRams said:
Maybe you're right on Restrepo. Do you know of any examples where a WR was super productive but ran in the 4.8's?

Production matters a lot in a receiver. I believe that production has the strongest correlation to a successful NFL career. When a player has low production, it warrants a very close critical look.
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Think Jarvis Landry ran a 4.77 and Boldin was 4.7 something
 
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