Draft Grade? Incomplete. But, here's my take

[Mojo Ram]

To each their own. It's been a very long time since the team was successful. Maybe I'm a burnt out fan.

Yes you are.

Shape up!

 

[JonRam99]

Yes, agree with ants, we talk a lot about Lamp like we just passed on Aaron Donald - Lamp is NOT the same. If he has wrist injuries as suspected by some he could even be a B Jones type pick.
Likewise Everett is NOT a Quick or Avery pick, he's a proven TE that will catch the ball and move the chains and score points for the Rams. Other teams were eyeballing him; Quick, Avery & even Pead for that matter were terrible overreaches.
I'm liking the draft so far, will be an exciting time in camp to see which WRs CBs OLs and DE/OLBs make the cut.

 

[FRO]

Yeah ... I thin you are. And i don't blame you one bit but ... damn man.... come on over to the bright side and enjoy a little ... until proven otherwise It's a whole lot better when you have optimism because .. .the change we all asked for has come. Let's give it a chance before we drown it out and chop it down. that crap is so depressing

It works great in the offseason, but biting hard in the offseason to get crushed in the regular season hurts so bad. I hope to try to stay grounded, so if things go bad it won't hurt as bad. We'll see. Probably will get hyped during camp like normal.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Exactly.

Lamp is a perfect example of fans being set on a particular player based on their own observations, yet having no idea of the coaching staff's direction for a team. That latter part is pretty important.

Kromer said he wants to work with our current OL group, rather than more rookies. So even if Lamp was the BPA, picking him wouldn't have made any sense with a guy you covet in Everett still on the board. Plus we were able to trade down and get an additional pick.

The problem with that generalization is that for the first time in years, I wasn't set on any player. In fact, I found myself surprised that Lamp was even still on the board when the Rams selection came up. And as a BPA guy the BPA player would be the player I coveted most. But, hey, that's just my opinion.

I'm just hopeful that McVay didn't have to get his Everret like McDaniels had to have his Kendricks over higher rated players on their draft board.

 

[OldSchool]

I just don't think it's good strategy to draft guys that need a fair amount of coaching up over guys who are more polished.

Fair enough you have your opinion. The guys that were just hired and paid millions to coach our favorite team gave us their opinion. Sorry if I trust them more than your opinion. These guys have a clean slate. It's pretty weak of us as fans to cast so much shade at them because of Fisher and his staff.

 

[TexasRam]

I hated not selecting Lamp at 37 and was livid.

Having time to think about it I've retraced my steps and watched a little more film on Everett.

I think something is to be said about taking your guys a round earlier. This ensures you get the guys you want. Draft grades be damned.

If Kupp and Everett turn into pro bowl playmaking guys,Which is very possible, this draft will have been genius.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I hated not selecting Lamp at 37 and was livid.

Having time to think about it I've retraced my steps and watched a little more film on Everett.

I think something is to be said about taking your guys a round earlier. This ensures you get the guys you want. Draft grades be damned.

If Kupp and Everett turn into pro bowl playmaking guys,Which is very possible, this draft will have been genius.

This represents the post-draft reality of most fans of all NFL teams.

Anger and/or confusion, followed by a better understanding of why their team did what they did, followed by hoping for the best.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Yes, agree with ants, we talk a lot about Lamp like we just passed on Aaron Donald - Lamp is NOT the same. If he has wrist injuries as suspected by some he could even be a B Jones type pick.
Likewise Everett is NOT a Quick or Avery pick, he's a proven TE that will catch the ball and move the chains and score points for the Rams. Other teams were eyeballing him; Quick, Avery & even Pead for that matter were terrible overreaches.
I'm liking the draft so far, will be an exciting time in camp to see which WRs CBs OLs and DE/OLBs make the cut.

Sorry, but other teams were eyeballing Quick and Avery and they were proven college WRs, too.

 

[iamme33]

Fair enough you have your opinion. The guys that were just hired and paid millions to coach our favorite team gave us their opinion. Sorry if I trust them more than your opinion. These guys have a clean slate. It's pretty weak of us as fans to cast so much shade at them because of Fisher and his staff.

yeah I have heard it said that players show the most improvement from rookie to second year and with fisher and his staff very few got better. a few in contract year seem to get better and that was about it. so if this new staff can just get the young players to show improvement from year to year I will be happy.

 

[Zodi]

The problem with that generalization is that for the first time in years, I wasn't set on any player.

Key word there.

And simple "BPA" didn't fit with the plan the coaches had in place.

Instances like that are where this scouting and projecting from people outside of NFL team circles falls apart; you have no idea the goals a particular team has going into the draft. Everyone said we needed OL help, aside from the people in the LA Rams front office. So naturally, people were surprised we didn't take Lamp (actually traded down when he was right in front of us) when Everett was the guy all along.

 

[ReddingRam]

It works great in the offseason, but biting hard in the offseason to get crushed in the regular season hurts so bad. I hope to try to stay grounded, so if things go bad it won't hurt as bad. We'll see. Probably will get hyped during camp like normal.

Hang in there man. IDK how old ya are, but i'm 53 and have had many, many yrs of this. But I still love this team. Every year that it goes bad, I vow to start the next season anew ... otherwise, I might as well just go bandwagon other teams. Trust me... I am "realistic" .. but at least to start the season, I begin optimistic until they let me down....

 

[Memphis Ram]

Key word there.

And simple "BPA" didn't fit with the plan the coaches had in place.

Instances like that are where this scouting and projecting from people outside of NFL team circles falls apart; you have no idea the goals a particular team has going into the draft. Everyone said we needed OL help, aside from the people in the LA Rams front office. So naturally, people were surprised we didn't take Lamp (actually traded down when he was right in front of us) when Everett was the guy all along.

As stated as being understood in my very first paragraph.

 

[kurtfaulk]

This to me should have been the main focal point. He is the most talented guy on the offense. Getting him to 2015 level and above makes Goff's job much easier and will help him with his development.

Kromer's job is to get the oline better than 2015 level. He has all the same players with a huge upgrade at lt and maybe even at c. Not sure why you think Gurley can regain form but all the promising linemen can't.

If you believe mcvay and Snead the coaches had higher grades on the current oline than they did for lamp.

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[Elmgrovegnome]

In the end it is not worth getting angry over. This is the first draft that the Rams had that I loved top to bottom. It may be the first since 83' . Every year though I accept that have to wait and see. I still don't like the picks but I figured what is the sense in getting angry over it. I hated the Tavon Austin draft. Like most I hated Snead's first second round. But none of it is worth making yourself miserable over. How can anyone know for sure that Lamp will be great? There have been several Olinemen that flopped in recent years. Maybe he dropped to round 2 for a reason, like he was being overrated by the media and round 2 was right where he belonged.


BTW @Memphis Ram you could also liken the choice of Everrett to Linehan's first draft where he had to have Leonard and that TE. Yes it could be a forced pick or if our new coach really is as good as some think, maybe it was more like Belichick finding the right fit for his style of coaching. And, it is worth noting that despite all of Belichick's success he still missed on several high draft picks. If Everett was overdrafted, then just figure shit happens.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I'm betting the Everett/Higbee duo will be far, far superior to the Klopfenstein/Byrd match-up, ... by leaps and bounds if you will. :cheers:

 

[jrry32]

You bring up the Pettis comp, this draft reminds me a lot of the 2011 one. I think Kupp has a much higher upside than Pettis, but I can see the comparison. Everette and Kendricks are similar types of players as well. The argument for the 2011 guys is the same for this draft as well, scheme fit. Kendricks was to be McDaniels Aaron Hernandez, Everette is to be McVay's Jordan Reed. While the draft feels similar, these will prove it on the field.

Kupp is already a better player than Pettis was. Pettis might have become something if Pettis cared. He didn't. Unfortunately, you can't measure heart.

Kendricks and Everett aren't similar players. It's also worth noting that we drafted all of those players for McDaniels and then fired him at the end of the year.

 

[Florida_Ram]

WOW! I"m astonished that anyone on this board would ever put Austin Pettis in the same sentence as Cooper Kupp on any level of comparison from any football galaxy on any level of reality.

Please don't let me see it again or I will have the admins ban you from the board.

I did enough film review of Pettis back when he got drafted by the Rams and Kupp is a different WR from a different universe. I'm freaking baffled that this has ever come up even ONE SINGLE TIME.



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[codeman]

On Everett - I don't understand why everyone on here wanted to trade up for Engram but is angry we traded down and got the exact same player. The combine made Engram go in the first round since TEs shouldn't run 4.40. Before that Everett was ranked the same or higher by a lot of draft guys like Jeremiah. Everett fits the offense perfectly and I thought that the team was making a big mistake not getting one of them. They are unique players with a specific skill set and athletic profile that just don't exist in a lot of drafts.

Kupp isn't Pettis, and like Jrry said Pettis was basically kicked off the team for missing meetings and not giving a crap. Everyone keeps comparing these guys to past failures and its stupid. Fisher took guys who were good athletes that were raw and didn't get anything out of them because they didn't want to get better, they just wanted a paycheck. I don't think a single player they picked this year has that profile which is what McVay focused on all offseason.

Kupp is not my style but he is a solid route runner and a reliable target. Hypothetically he could become Ochocinco or Keenan Allen, but I don't really see that happening. He's an athletic Willie Snead. He's not going to be a pro bowler but I'll take a receiver who gets at least 850 yards all day after the last decade. I'm happy it wasn't in round 2. Don't put #1 expectations on him.

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Josh Reynolds is just a deep threat sideline receiver right now, but he has a ton of upside. His ball skills are absolutely ridiculous and he makes a ton of catches he shouldn't be making, but I don't like how many easy passes he drops. He's probably on the Justin Hunter side of the scale and I hope he gets to the Allen Robinson, Marvin Jones side.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I'm astonished that one cannot see the Austin Pettis being used in comparison to Kupp.

Both excelled mostly in the slot in college spread offenses vs. mostly questionable competition.
Both have very similar height, speed, quickness, arm length, hops, AND hands (size & catching ability).
Both had their struggles vs. press coverage.

While important, the main difference between the two seems to be the Kupp is a more polished route runner who appears to be more dedicated to his craft. Perhaps I should have removed the word "slightly " when I said Kupp was more refined (which seems to have missed altogether by some), but the comparison otherwise is solid, IMO. Far more realistic than my seeing Jerry Rice & Jordy Nelson mentioned in the same breath with the kid.

All that said, I'm not saying that he won't be a fine addition to the team as I'm sure he will. I'm just not a fan of selecting a slot WR right behind a slot TE (And yes I already know he'll play outside some. I just have my doubts that when he does that he'll be in his best position).

 

[Rambitious1]

Where's Coach O?