This is the simplest way to say it and sums up my opinion on this topic nicely.
We've seen some amazing RB's as fans of this team.
Dickerson versus Faulk
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This is the simplest way to say it and sums up my opinion on this topic nicely.
We've seen some amazing RB's as fans of this team.
It's like playing whack-a-mole. :seizure:
Ram Quixote
Knight Errant
Rosenbloom died before the '79 season. Georgia took control of the team over Carroll's son Steve prior to that season. Georgia made Shaw President of the Rams football operations after GM Klosterman resigned in protest. They also allowed Ferragamo to walk after the '80 season, hence the down years in '81 & '82. Robinson was hired as HC in '83.
Sorry, Old age I guess. Didn't remember the correct years. That will teach me to answer an op, off the top of my head, with checking!
fearsomefour
Legend
With that atmosphere on the board now this could be code for a regional argument....blue-ish font.
fearsomefour
Legend
Both obvious first ballot HOF caliber guys. Very different. If I had to choose one it would be Faulk. He executed every element of the position so well. That said, every team knew going in Dickerson was getting the ball and he still dominated.
I can not vote, it is like who do you like more mom v dad. Dickerson was the prettiest runner in open field I have ever seen, Much faster than credited and also ran tougher than he is given credit for. Marshall had incredible quickness, vision, Hands and pass blocking abilities
To me it's like choosing between Salma Hayek and Sofia Vergara
+1
It is one thing to compare to HOF guys....but this one ain't close....don't go there.
Wow I missed that.
Yeah, I like SJ, but I've got 2,105 reasons Dickerson is better. Both played on some bad Rams teams, but Dickerson did a much better job of putting them on his back. Jim Everett once joked the playbook was handoff right and handoff left.
You can argue there was a better OL for Dickerson, but there's a reason Dickerson is in the HoF and Jackson could go either way.
OC--LeftCoast
Agent Provocateur
Dickerson had way, way, WAY more speed than Faulk could ever dream of having, had the vision of where to run, anyone here think #29 woulda been ran down in SB 34 like Marshall was? I think not.
I like Faulk but IMO to compare these 2 is ridiculous, no way #28 is even in a conversation of top 10 NFL backs ever if you remove bias from the conversation.
I like Faulk but IMO to compare these 2 is ridiculous, no way #28 is even in a conversation of top 10 NFL backs ever if you remove bias from the conversation.
Any woman looking like that is going to get passes made at her....I gotta go Salma. Even if she can't pass protect
...I'm sorry, what were we talking about?
All true. And I would add that if anyone thought it was all the O-line creating giant holes, they're not giving ED credit for blowing up the first tackler on SO many occasions. It was actually a big part of his game and how he was able to run free so many times. He ran straight at the defender many times to make his own hole. The two are completely different type players that played in completely different eras with completely different schemes and team strengths.
It's a tough call. Dickerson could probably run on any team in any era. Marshall could probably be that Swiss Army Knife on any team. Of course having Kurt deliver the ball to you makes a big difference in the passing game. Dickerson never really had that and the type offenses they ran would not take advantage of it if he did.
In any case, they were both great and I'm just not sure you can honestly compare them.
Growing up watching COMPLETE runners like Marshall & Steven has spoiled me. If I'm picking a pure runner, I'd probably go 1a) Faulk 1b) ED 2) SJ. But if you're talking complete backs I'm going 1) Faulk 2) SJ 3) ED without question. Marshall and SJ brought a pass catching element to their game, that ED never showed (whether it was the offense he played in or not). How about the fact that Dickerson fumbled once every 42 times he touched the rock in his career? Again I'm not trying to take away from his incredible big play ability w/his breakaway speed, but to me COMPLETE backs have good/great:
-Vision
-Speed
-Power
-Elusiveness
-Durability
-Receiving Ability
-Pass Blocking Ability
-Ball Security
-Intangibles
You can check off the first 4 or 5 for ED, but imo Marshall & SJ were more complete. Maybe SJ didn't have the big play ability that ED had, but he certainly was a more complete back. Its just my preference.
The fastest ED was ever clocked was a 4.3 - 40.
MF ran the 40 in 4.35.
It's a myth that Dickerson was much faster than MF.
Other than that I don't know what to say to a Rams fan who doesn't even put MF in the top 10.
I guess we all see what we want to see. Personally I felt like I was watching one of the very best players of all time when I watched either.
OC--LeftCoast
Agent Provocateur
A myth?
Interesting, I'm just going to have to disagree with you on this one, Dickerson would have NEVER been caught from behind as many time as Faulk was.
Answer this, you think ED would have been caught from behind like Marshall was in SB 34? (it was almost laughable he got caught, speed wasn't Marshalls thing, when he was a Ram)
I did ONCE see Darrell Green run down Dick, once... and that was it, if you're comparing game speed of these two backs as equal...we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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